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Old 03-02-2019, 05:31 PM   #29
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I can't thank everyone enough for your replies! They are all very helpful to me.

A little update: We went to check out the 22' Sport today. There was some hail damage along the right side, it wasn't terrible but enough small dents to notice. It has also been stored outside all of its life...and never waxed! From what i've read that isn't so great for the exterior. Overall the interior looked nice, but had a few missing rivets.

My big draw to buying new is that I would be able to take care of it up to my standards from day 1. That helps a lot with my peace of mind!
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Old 03-02-2019, 05:41 PM   #30
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we have a 2017 sport 22FB

The sport 22 is a slightly smaller version of the popular 23FB model.

if we were to buy again, we would get the one class up FC 23FB
why
  • bed you can access on both sides
  • only other model with a double sink
  • and more storage

for the two of us, nothing bigger than a 23 FB is needed by us
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Old 03-02-2019, 05:53 PM   #31
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The Bambi 16 was an upgrade for us ...from a teardrop with no dinette to the Airstream was a perfect choice...
Easy to get in and out of parking lots...ie Walmart ...we take up two spaces on the street...we use bath houses in RV parks 90 percent of the time so the wet bath was perfect for nighttime potty use...one AC is a plus....
We are average size and happily married so the bed is quite cozy...I think there is a reason the Bambi 16 is the most popular model...We tow with a full size F150crew so plenty of storage in our tow vehicle....single axle means less cost on tires...Don’t let bigger is better put you in something that is more than you need.
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Old 03-02-2019, 06:14 PM   #32
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If I were you I'd do the 22. (Hey that rhymes!) ... You will not be sorry. The price is right, the length and weight are not that much more. You will be doing your friend and yourself a favor, with $ left over.
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Old 03-02-2019, 07:09 PM   #33
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My TV, Mazda CX 9 towing max 3500lbs, determined which Sport, 16 or 22 to buy since the Sport 16 towing max is 3500lbs my purchase was a 2019 Sport 16.I also noted that either 120v 15/20amp shore power and/or my Honda 2200eu gen can easily energize and run a RV 11000 btu AC with power to spare for other AC appliances.Bottom line its "what suits your fancy mate" that matters most.
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Old 03-04-2019, 05:46 AM   #34
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We have the 22ft and LOVE it!!! The 16 is very nice but was just too small and I didn't like the wet shower in the 16. Go for the 22ft and enjoy!!!
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Old 03-04-2019, 03:01 PM   #35
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Thank you for all of these replies!

I don't know to much about the exteriors of these trailers. The used one has a decent ding in the back to the left of the storage compartment. They said they'd replace the black piece, but i'm worried about the dings in the aluminum. Is this something to worry much about?

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Old 03-04-2019, 03:36 PM   #36
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James, you have shifted your question a bit. Broken, damaged is one thing and 2 years old for a size upgrade is something different. Patina hits like the one you show are easier to ignore if you make them. Repair of such is usually expensive. That one is small, but not something that will buff out. It could be covered with a decorative patch - search on that for examples.

Your question seems to be "Is this a major problem for these trailers" and the answer is, anything that degrades the integrity of the skin, floor or frame is a problem. That ding looks like it is not something that can't be corrected, but it also lookes like it should be.

The point is, how would you as the new owner deal with the problem? Take it apart and fix it or take it to the dealer and have them do it? One answer says OK and the other says run very fast. The correct answer is that you need to learn how to fix similar or how to make enough money to pay someone to fix it. There is an insurance alternative and the acceptance of "patina" that can be embraced or rejected. Your coach, money and RV lifestyle, which makes it your decision.

On the outside looking in, you seem to have a toss up. It's not an especially good deal as you lay it out. However, it may be good enough for you, depending on your wants, needs and perspective.

Note, there are other trailers for sale. Suggest you first decide what you want and then figure out how to buy/find it. Pat
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Thank you for all of these replies!

I don't know to much about the exteriors of these trailers. The used one has a decent ding in the back to the left of the storage compartment. They said they'd replace the black piece, but i'm worried about the dings in the aluminum. Is this something to worry much about?

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Dings in the external skin means you are using the AS on the road. Unless it is punctured into the interior insulation area, probably doesn't present a problem. I know a lot of AS owners do everything to prevent a ding, but dings will happen. Even hail will catch you at some point but hail damage is cosmetic.

The 22FB is a great TT and it will last a lifetime. In fact a few dings means you are using the rig to its fullest. The 22FB will be a more comfortable rig for long trips and provide a lot of secure nights with hot showers. Fear not.
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Old 03-05-2019, 02:15 PM   #38
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Hmm. To replace that corner panel is not cheap. If it were me, and I could' live with it, I'd ask the seller to at least split the cost of repair. (The owners could have had it repaired through insurance when it happened, but it's probably too late for that.)

AND I will point out that this kind of damage on a Sport can be partly blamed on the fact that Sports do not have a rear bumper like Flying Clouds, etc... The rear of the trailer is basically wide open & vulnerable to rear collisions, even small bumps (which is probably what this one was) ... that would be mitigated by a bumper. This is one of the biggest downsides of Sports IMHO.
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I have seen some Sports with rear Stone Guards, wouldn’t see that damage with them. Just a thought.
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Old 03-06-2019, 11:25 AM   #40
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I have seen some Sports with rear Stone Guards, wouldn’t see that damage with them. Just a thought.
I have seen a few Sports with ear bumpers as well. That isn't how they started out and they do not picture a sport with a bumper online. i'm guessing the bumpers are an add-on option or done after market. Not having a bumper was a probably a means to reduce weight a little.
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Ha! "ear bumpers" ... ("rear bumpers" ... but ear bumpers might be kinda cool.)
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Old 03-07-2019, 10:16 AM   #42
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22 definitely

Four tires are much safer especially if you have a flat. You can safely limp at 35mph to a pull-off or service station to put on the spare tire and can change a tire without jacking up the Airstream. Make a ramp from "lego" blocks, run the good tire up on the ramp til the flat is off the ground and change tires. Much less stressful than watching some hack jack up your trailer without any idea where the one safe lift point is.
The 22' Sport is a single axle trailer, like all Sport models they are a "Bambi". The 22' that had tandem axles was the older International 22', which actually have bigger issues with rear sag and floor rot and should likely be avoided by those that aren't into rehabs.

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Thank you for all of these replies!

I don't know to much about the exteriors of these trailers. The used one has a decent ding in the back to the left of the storage compartment. They said they'd replace the black piece, but i'm worried about the dings in the aluminum. Is this something to worry much about?

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I am somewhat confused as to your description of this damage. We should use "curb side" or "street side" when discussing, as some people think of "left" from when looking at the front of the trailer (backwards) or "left" when looking toward the front of the trailer. Street side vs curb side is consistent though (as long as we are talking about North American Airstreams anyway).

That does not look like any access door on a 2017 Sport. I am not aware of the Sport 22' having any storage compartments on the street side. There is a water heater compartment, fresh water fill door, furnace compartment, refrigerator compartments, and outdoor shower compartment on the street side. The curb side has the sole exterior storage compartment.

The issue with damage to the skin can be imagined by the old "stand on the soda can trick", the soda can will hold your weight until you slightly indent the side of the can and it collapses. Their isn't a single "frame" on an Airstream, it is more similar to a unibody car that the entire body works together to produce a rigid body/chassis combo. Any damage could compromise that, depending on where, and the extent obviously.
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