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Old 05-04-2014, 06:15 AM   #29
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Thanks for the info and the pictures. We will be stopping at a different dealer over July 4th and hopefully get to see the 19 and 22 there. DH sure likes the price on the 16, and we didn't really go for the 20 layout with the dinette on the aisle. But I really am interested in seeing the 19 in person, for all of the reasons you mentioned. In particular to see if we think its easier for a sleeping person to be hopped over if the other person needs to get out of bed.

Thanks again for the detailed info. I will be getting an additional week of vacation in 2016, so we are most likely not buying for a year or so, unless a great deal falls our way.

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Old 05-04-2014, 07:12 AM   #30
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Fantastic thread. Thanks for taking the time to summarize it.. I was wondering how you handled hauling and pumping your extra water so this was helpful.
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Old 05-04-2014, 10:30 AM   #31
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Great ideas, thanks for sharing!
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Old 05-04-2014, 02:35 PM   #32
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I have been at campgrounds where tenters were forbidden to dump wash water on the ground, only at gray water dump stations. As has been said, I would hate to get to a fly infested primitive campsite caused by the lastcampers dumping gray water with food particles,etc, all over. If it is permitted okay, but many places it is not, and those who do it are being selfish. Jim
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Old 05-05-2014, 01:53 AM   #33
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Love the tips, and the motorcycles too. I use a Condor steel chock with quick mounts on the bed to hold the bikes; rock solid and you don't have to compress the forks so much when hauling. Also use a Big Boy single 9' folding ramp to load them.


Even though I have an 8' bed, the roll up bed cover takes up a foot, and the bikes don't fit with the tailgate closed unless I angle them. I like the idea of moving the tanks back so towing is possible when the tailgate is down. How hard is it to remove the batteries with the propane rack in the way?

You can't see them in the pics, by we have the same setup with the condor wheel chocks. Makes it really easy to load the bikes solo as well since you don't have to hold the bike up to strap down each side. Not to mention what you said about compressing the forks.

We have a fold-a-cover that we remove and leave inside the camper when we haul the bikes. When we get to where we're going we unload the bikes then put the cover back on. Having the lockable truck bed is a HUGE convenience.

To move the tanks back they welded brackets that put the tanks over the battery box. They painted everything the same as the rest of the trailer so it really looks as though it came that way. They made it so that you have to remove the tanks to get to the batteries, but being that we never really have to access the batteries, it's not that big a deal. Especially when you weigh the benefit of being able to tow with the gate down.
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Old 05-05-2014, 01:55 AM   #34
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Gus,
Thanks for the info and the pictures. We will be stopping at a different dealer over July 4th and hopefully get to see the 19 and 22 there. DH sure likes the price on the 16, and we didn't really go for the 20 layout with the dinette on the aisle. But I really am interested in seeing the 19 in person, for all of the reasons you mentioned. In particular to see if we think its easier for a sleeping person to be hopped over if the other person needs to get out of bed.

Thanks again for the detailed info. I will be getting an additional week of vacation in 2016, so we are most likely not buying for a year or so, unless a great deal falls our way.

Saving my pennies in my piggy bank!

Hey when it comes to spending money, desperation and/or impatience never helps!!! Take your time. Good luck in your search.
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Old 05-05-2014, 01:57 AM   #35
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I have been at campgrounds where tenters were forbidden to dump wash water on the ground, only at gray water dump stations. As has been said, I would hate to get to a fly infested primitive campsite caused by the lastcampers dumping gray water with food particles,etc, all over. If it is permitted okay, but many places it is not, and those who do it are being selfish. Jim

Agreed. It's always up to the particular camper to do the right thing. Unfortunately not everyone is bright enough to not s#|t where they sleep.
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I have been at campgrounds where tenters were forbidden to dump wash water on the ground, only at gray water dump stations. As has been said, I would hate to get to a fly infested primitive campsite caused by the lastcampers dumping gray water with food particles,etc, all over. If it is permitted okay, but many places it is not, and those who do it are being selfish. Jim
I have been curious about this as back in the day the grey water always got dumped in mother natures hands. When we started seriously camping again a few years ago we noticed the new sensitivity to it.

We always walked the "slop bucket" to the bathroom and dumped it in a stool if there was no utility sink. Is that the accepted norm still? Have not really been anywhere since we got the Sport yet where we had to worry about it, but we certainly will be and I don't wish to pull a faux pas.
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Have been to campgrounds where there were specific gray water only dump stations near the tent camping area. Note, gray water only. If a pee bottle is used at night it goes to the regular dump station. Jim
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We dump our gray water into the regular black water dump. Jim
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How to dry-camp forever (almost) and a few other tips....

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A spot at Shasta Lake that, according to the map, should be under water. (Water levels are really low)
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If you have a 2014 the standard inverter option is now a 1000 watt sine wave inverter. (About a $700 extra). I have found a regular small 120 volt toaster, rated in the range of 800 to 900 watts, works fine on mine. Just look on the bottom for the watt rating, virtually all of them state it.

The inverter will draw about 90 amps when making toast, but for a brief period. Lets say it is 3 minutes. That is 1/20 of an hour, and at 90 amps / 20 = 4.5 amp hours for toast. If you have two 75 amp hour batteries each, that is not a very serious energy demand. On a solar recharge, depending on the panel size, half hour to an hour to put it back.

I like "real" toast from an electric toaster....lol.
Thanks Iroba for the toaster info. Unfortunately my FC is 2013, and the inverter is 750 watts...and my regular toaster does not work on the inverter. Oh well, another future upgrade project....maybe.
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