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Old 03-19-2006, 04:37 PM   #15
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Lotsa good sense here

I'm fulltiming. Just decided to upgrade to the 25 FB SE from the 22 CCD. If you're a weekender camper the 16 or 19 is great, but if you're going to spend a lot of time in it, you'll want to go bigger.

My only reasons for going to a 25 were

1) I've made my bed every day for a solid year. Just cannot leave it unmade because the "bedroom" isn't separate from the living area.

2) I've saved a LOT of money full timing, and want to continue to for the next 5 - 7 years at least.

3) I CAN afford it without pinching elsewhere.

I know lots of folks who are delighted with their smaller units, especially ones who are primarily weekend campers.

...however if you WANT a 22fter see mine on the classifieds almost new and less than a new 16....

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Old 03-19-2006, 05:27 PM   #16
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We've been happy for three years with our 17' vintage, but it's a very different layout than the new trailers. I wouldn't trade it for a newer one, it feels more open to me, and I feel like there's more storage. There's enough storage I don't use it all. We enjoy squeezing into sites other trailers can't get into, parking the whole rig across two parking spaces in a regular parking lot while stopping places along the way, and the way it follows the van without having to worry about swinging wide to miss stuff.

And I think it easier to just get out and go because you can't fit much in it, so you don't have much to pack up. We love having a little trailer! I hope you guys enjoy your 16!
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Old 03-19-2006, 06:04 PM   #17
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New 16 Quicksilver

We are heading out Wed. for two weeks in our new AS. We also travel
with two Kerry Blue Terriers (40) lbs. We also like NFS camps and like
to travel light.We are back packers so know that you don't need to take
the house to have a great experince. Also outside most of the time for
cooking etc. Good luck and Happy Trails John & Betty
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Old 03-19-2006, 06:38 PM   #18
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My husband and I have a restored 24ft Argosy that we dearly love. We only use it on week-ends since we both still work; however, I would not consider anything smaller. I really wouldn't mind having a coupel of more feet on this one when you get all your "stuff" in it. You really can't leave much sitting around in the way of drinks, clothes, snacks, papers, magazines, ect. Well, you get the idea. I would recommend you go for a larger coach if you can afford it and pull it. We've never had any trouble pulling this 24ft or parking it. It's a nice size.
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Old 03-19-2006, 07:58 PM   #19
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I agree with juel. My wife and I upgraded from a SOB popup and find the 25' of our 75 Trade Wind a perfect fit. We really like the seperate sleeping area that we have with the double bed which we keep as a bed all the time. When we got our 3rd dog (Gracie a 85 lb yellow lab) it was time to get out of the popup
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Old 03-19-2006, 09:51 PM   #20
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I ditto what Frozen, RDM, and Betty said. My wife and I have had our 16' CCD for 3 years now. We've taken five 2 weeks+ trips, plus other shorter trips and hated coming home. We tow with a 4 liter Ford Ranger. No problems. There really is an amazing amount of storage inside. We've fit into some amazing campsites that I wonder if a 19' could have fit. In campgrounds with a fixed dump station, it's a 30 minute turnaround to hook up, dump and fill with water and return. We went from backpacking and tent camping to this. Deluxe! Can't go wrong either way. I have a question for 19' owners. Where is the counter space for food prep? Jamie
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Old 03-19-2006, 10:55 PM   #21
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Hi Ron,, like was previously said in prior posts,,, both sized trailers have advantages and disadvantages, own a 16 foot ccd and a 25 foot safari for longer trips and perhaps snow birding in the future,,, could not part with the bambi,,, amazing how much you can pack in the underbed storage,and in your tow vehicle. i carry a toaster oven,,lots of pots and pans. maybe 19 or 22 would be the middle of the road. go and sit in all sizes and really get the feel of them. the trailers will speak to you,, donna
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:15 AM   #22
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I ditto what Frozen, RDM, and Betty said. My wife and I have had our 16' CCD for 3 years now. We've taken five 2 weeks+ trips, plus other shorter trips and hated coming home. We tow with a 4 liter Ford Ranger. No problems. There really is an amazing amount of storage inside. We've fit into some amazing campsites that I wonder if a 19' could have fit. In campgrounds with a fixed dump station, it's a 30 minute turnaround to hook up, dump and fill with water and return. We went from backpacking and tent camping to this. Deluxe! Can't go wrong either way. I have a question for 19' owners. Where is the counter space for food prep? Jamie
Food prep is done on the stove and sink covers. The lack of counter space was the only drawback that I found in the 19CCD, but then I usually do most of my cooking on an outdoor grill and don't really need more counter than what's there. Plus, the dinette does double duty as well.
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:47 AM   #23
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The 25' also isn't much better in terms of counter space....though it does have the dual kitchen sink with covers that does help.

We had our niece and nephew with us in the 19' Bambi and although they were small enough and we made due, the reality is that a number of folks (myself included) buy the smaller units cause they are cute, our tow vehicle can easily tow them, we say it's better than tenting, etc. However, I believe 16' through 25' are the most traded. Of course, not everyone trades up and are very happy with their exisiting coach.

After trading to a 25' SS, we had our niece and nephew with us again. It was a night and day difference.....particularly when it was raining outside. I would strongly suggest that you go out to a dealer, might not even be as crititcal that it be an Airstream, just compare the sizes with as many folks as you plan to bring with you on a trip. Stay inside the coach for about 15-20 minutes and that will be what it will be like when it's bad outside and you're all stuck inside. Start from there and then look at the tow vehicle as you start to get above 16' or 19'.
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Old 04-26-2006, 09:54 AM   #24
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Well, here we are ready to go... sold the beloved Eurovan, purchasing the Tundra...Have fallin in love with the 16' quicksilver...now thinking should we go to the 19'?? Not so cute , like the layout of the 16' better...But the shower!!.
One more rescue jack russell...brings it to three. ??? plus two small adults also rescues of sorts .
My heart wants the 16'
My head is thinking 19'
Mostly weekend trips is all...even just out to my parents .
And best place to buy?...Southern Calif area. Will travel to pick up though.
Any thoughts?
CAN not wait to hit the road.
Thank you so for you input
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Old 04-26-2006, 10:11 AM   #25
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now having been in the 19'

Julie,

now having spent a rain/snow weekend or 2 in the 19' bambi, we're glad we went the way we did. We found that there is more liveable space in there vs. the 16'. Having our one Airedale "Spokes" in there and us, it's comfy but more peoples/dogs would be a stretch.

Also, the shower, seperate from the biffy, is huge for us.

We're happy with our 19' and feel comfortable with the size. A larger one would be nice but I don't have the TV for it and the logistics of getting going would seem to be tougher with a larger trailer, but that's completely an unresearched opinion.

good luck with your decision!
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Old 04-26-2006, 10:15 AM   #26
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Well, here we are ready to go... sold the beloved Eurovan, purchasing the Tundra...Have fallin in love with the 16' quicksilver...now thinking should we go to the 19'?? Not so cute , like the layout of the 16' better...But the shower!!.
One more rescue jack russell...brings it to three. ??? plus two small adults also rescues of sorts .
My heart wants the 16'
My head is thinking 19'
Mostly weekend trips is all...even just out to my parents .
And best place to buy?...Southern Calif area. Will travel to pick up though.
Any thoughts?
CAN not wait to hit the road.
Thank you so for you input
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Julie,

The majority of trailer owners trade UP after a while. Very few owners get smaller trailers, from what I have observed.
You have opened up a broad range of possibilities, now that you have a Tundra to tow with. With dogs and such, you might even consider going to a 22ft model, which is still easy to handle and park, but gives you soo much more living space. My vote would go to the 19, at least.
Come to Orange County, take a look at Travel Land's Airstream offerings. They had many models on their lot last time I looked.

I-405 S to Sand Canyon Exit, go East to the Travelland Entrance, just before the I-5 Underpass.
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Old 04-26-2006, 10:38 AM   #27
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16' CCD. no experience with SOB or larger AS.

we chose the 16 over the 19 cause we plan to get as far off the map as we can with a trailer, and figure smaller is better for this purpose.

have to use our TV in "real" life for commuting, so wanted a 6 cylinder for the gas mileage; the 16 was 1000 lbs lighter than the 19, and more comfortably in the TV's limits. WARNING: mileage while towing with a 6 (at least our V6) is NO better than with a V8; might even be worse .

we also like the way the 16CCD looks better than the 19, YMMV.

water management is crucial, but not difficult. we can easily go 3 days without a dump station, and could probably manage 4 with care. as backcountry campers, we find that this level of thrift feels like shameless luxury.

the small fridge seems HUGE to us - can't imagine filling it.

it's a pain to get in and out of the sideways bed for the outboard person. access to the dinette is tight for a 6' male on the kitchen side, as is access to the bath. no oven. 2-burner stove (though ya get some more counter space in excahnge for losing the 19's 3rd burner).

seems like there's exactly just enough of room for us, and tons for storage - we hit the weight limit long before running outta storage.

very squirrley to back up; the 19 may be also.

all in all, we LOVE our 16' Toasty. our first big (2 week) trip is in a few weeks, so i guess we'll find out if this size is really workable for 2 adults and a cat.

hope this helps,
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Old 04-26-2006, 12:39 PM   #28
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We love, love, our little Bambi. Had a fantastic 3,750 mile trip to Texas via Nv.
Az. NM. Utah with our two Kerry Blues. Just arrived home from five days in Hells Canyon and the Snake River. We like to look out at all the stars at night
and feel very comfrotable. Use your outside shower to save on black & gray
tanks...works great! We have sooo many people gawking and asking about
it....fun to show off. Happy Trails, John & Betty
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