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Old 06-27-2009, 05:01 PM   #15
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And if you have a dealer replace a panel it will likely be applied over the old one with Olympic rivets.
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Old 06-27-2009, 06:15 PM   #16
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And if you have a dealer replace a panel it will likely be applied over the old one with Olympic rivets.
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A select few dealers do "lay over" metal replacements.

Those same few dealers pad estimates and charge insurance companies for things they will never do.

How do I know?

I review estimates for several large insurance companies.

That does not put "all" dealers in the same category.

Most insurance companies are not real smart when it comes to Airstream repairs, but they are not dumb either.

The most interesting part, is that the factory is usually aware of those shops, but does little to nothing about it.

They say they cannot tell a dealer "how to run their business".

Sad indeed, but very true.

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Old 06-27-2009, 08:35 PM   #17
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If owners who had those type repairs, would post that kind of information on these Forums, then in a short period of time, those same dealers would close up shop.
I'm not sure how this follows from what else has been said here. In selected situations (right front corner on my Argosy for instance) an overlay is fairly commonly done, indistinguishable from original, and totally watertight. See http://www.airforums.com/forums/f381...tml#post664568. Not many would expect it to be done for sections in the end cap. Just sayin'.....
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:53 PM   #18
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I'm not sure how this follows from what else has been said here. In selected situations (right front corner on my Argosy for instance) an overlay is fairly commonly done, indistinguishable from original, and totally watertight. See http://www.airforums.com/forums/f381...tml#post664568. Not many would expect it to be done for sections in the end cap. Just sayin'.....
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Overlaying, if done properly, is not really the issue.

The real issue is that some shops charge for R & R (remove and replace), but instead overlay.

They charge the insurance company to R & R and then overlay.

That, in itself, is dishonest and fraudulent.

Why, some ask?

Because an overlay takes, ball park, 50 percent less time than a replacement. That typically reduces the labor charge, by half, which is very significant. Who pays for those abuses? We, the public pay for it.

Insurance rates are already too high for many people. It's those shops, that bend the rules, by charging money for things they did not do, that causes some of that problem.

Labor rates and hours are already out of sight when some estimates are reviewed for Airstream work.

It's getting close to the point that a few insurance companies may take shops to task, for such nonsense.

Auto repair shops are closely monitored.

Not so, with RV repair shops.

Those same shops, use the same tactics, on customer pay as well.

Now, how fair do we, as a group, feel those shops are running their businesses?

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Hail mary...

I have 2006 16ft bambi... Purchased in nov. 09' off of ebay... It was in a hail storm near denver... Not sure how 2 post pix, this is my 1st posting...
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Go to advanced and you will see a paperclip hit that and you can choose a file to upload. It works very well.
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I have 2006 16ft bambi... Purchased in nov. 09' off of ebay... It was in a hail storm near denver... Not sure how 2 post pix, this is my 1st posting...
Welcome Boomer,

Here's link to a thread with information about posting pictures and other helpful information about the site and how to get around.

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