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Old 03-22-2012, 09:17 AM   #113
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Congrats on #15 noetic! I've updated the registry with a few changes including yours (don't have you name, but thats optional). If I am missing anything anybody, let me know!

We have lots of trips planned for our 40 Winker this season which starts VERY soon, including a trip from upstate NY to New Hampshhire for more lakeside camping!

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75th Prototype Wheels

In David Winick's Book Airstreams: Custom Interiors several pictures of the prototype show the trailer with 6 spoke wheels rather than the solid wheels with baby moons that the production model has. Does anyone know that make and model of the prototype's wheels?
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In David Winick's Book Airstreams: Custom Interiors several pictures of the prototype show the trailer with 6 spoke wheels rather than the solid wheels with baby moons that the production model has. Does anyone know that make and model of the prototype's wheels?
I own the prototype 75th. It was originally shipped to David Winick with generic aluminum wheels from Airstream. When the trailer was being designed, plain old Dexstar 15" 15X6 steel rims were installed with the sole purpose of installing baby moon hubcaps. Originally, the trailer was to come with wide whitewalls and trim rings, but economics being what they are this didn't occur. (David Winick also wished to choose a not-so-bland awning and drapes for the trailer as well, but this was a no-go with Airstream...I've since rectified both.)

Somewhere along the line early in it's build the axle was replaced...I've never been able to find out why or where it was done; but the date tag on the axle is newer than the trailer itself. The trailer went to Frank Bates in Florida, where it was never sold or titled; he was going to keep it for himself. He decided to sell it, and I bought it in 2010.

Another interesting thing is that the stove was changed somewhere along the way...if you look at the pictures during the build on the Winick site, you will see a large dent in the lower left corner of the stove door; mine is free from dents. Also, I have two manuals and warranty cards for two different stoves. I'm glad they changed it. Who wants a dented stove?

I'm in the process of changing my original 15" steel rims to 16" steel Dexstar rims to use Michelin XPS Rib tires. I'm going to be going with the original idea using trim rings, baby moons, and wide whitewalls. I've located and purchased stainless steel baby moons (hard to find!) that fit the 16" rims and stainless trim rings. I will be painting the rims sail blue, and I'm having DiamondBack tires customize my XPS ribs with a 1.5" wide whitewall and dual bluelines around the outer perimeter of the whitewall.

I'm going to keep the original rims and tires as spares...but they are Marathons, which means they are worthless POS tires anyway...but I may need them in a bind.

Regarding what happened to the original aluminum wheels that the body shell was shipped to Winick with...who knows? And who cares?
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More on prototype

What color(s) awning did you use to replace the gray original? How about the curtain color(s)?

The reason I asked about the wheels is that we are not fans of baby moons, but maybe we would like them better with the trim rims and wide white walls. I actually like how the trailer looked with the aluminum wheels.

The only modifications we have made to #18 are a stainless steel hot water heater cover and a new digital ready TV.
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I replaced the gray awning with Pacific Blue Fancy. I was tempted to go with something more unique as ZipDee has alot of great choices nowadays, but ultimately I wanted to add a bit more blue to the exterior and the blues used in the Pacific Blue Fancy matched the blue of my truck very well so I went with that. And, every time I roll it open I'm glad I did.

For the interior I've gone a different route as I like the earthtones of the design in the muted greens and orangy-browns of the cabinetry. For curtains I went with an orange/brown/green vintage 70's-ish design by Michael Miller. It seems a bit over the top at first but they turned out great. I've also had throw pillows made utilizing accents of the same material as the curtains, and I've added a few small muted deep rich green and dark burnt orange throw rugs. The green really brings out the green of the counters and cushions and the orange really ties in with the cabinets. The design has a circle theme which ties in great with the porthole/baby moon aspects of the trailer design.

I'm also doing the stainless water heater cover upgrade. The digital TV is a good idea as well...a size as large as a 32" will fit on the wall without being in the way of anything.

Regarding the baby moons...the thing that really makes them look right is painting them a color besides black and using the stainless trim rings. Even with black tires...the trim rings really seem to do the trick; especially the ones that don't go all the way to the outer edge of the rim.
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Congrats on the prototype, and thanks for posting a background on the trailer.

Do you have a photo of your awning? That is on my To Do List. We also want to do strips, might pick more 'Adirondack colors mind you... not sure. The blue is probably pretty sweet! It all depends on if we keep our 75th. With all the camping we are doing, Kate is considering a 23FB which would give us more storage and a full bed. It's pretty bland decore mind you then David's design! (Airstream's interiors are soooo bland now compared to even SOBs! what the???)... oops off topic...

Was hard to believe they delivered a $60K trailer with those plain white curtains. Here is what Kate did to corrrect that problem and add a bit of ADK to our 75th...



We're ditching the TV/stereo unit (1990's technology) this year and will likely install an iPad holder on the bathroom wall so we can watch a bit of 'tv' before falling asleep. I rent movies for $1 then rip them and upload into iTunes/iPad every so often. Usually have about 15 movies available at any time on the iPad. Removing that tv will also open up space that much more! Great place to hang a large picture, or install a bulletin board.

I see they still install much of the old technology in the new Airstreams. No good for boondocking or for those of us who live in the modern world.
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Hi Dave!!!

I can't imagine YOU of anyone with one of these trailers actually getting rid of it. While I was contemplating buying one everytime I searched the internet it was information from YOU that kept popping up everywhere...you should be the spokesperson for these trailers ha ha...

I like the orange-y colors you've chosen for your interior. I've gone with similar colors inside. They don't match the blue/silver exterior, but then again orange wouldn't match my truck.

You're moving forward with technology; I'm still in the stereo technology of yesteryear...I still use reel to reels and I fell in love with Sony's minidisc (that never really caught on) in the 90's and 2000's. I still mainly use minidisc to this day, so that's what will eventually go in my trailer. It's still weird to consider such a recent technology "old school" but I guess it is!!!

Here are a couple of pictures of my awning as you requested (and a couple more):







Quite a few people have been asking me for some pics and more details about the mods I've done...I opened a couple other threads, but I figured I'd copy/paste those posts here where the info is easy to find.

Copy/paste starts here:

I'm in the process of adding a little bit of blue to my 75th Anniversary Prototype to further match my tow vehicle, a blue over silver SSR...

I added a little bit of blue/chrome trim and some vintage Airstream signs to my A/C cover a couple of years ago, and it really made the trailer pop a bit...that off white giant cover just wasn't happenin'. Here is a thread I made back then about it: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f48/my-fancy-dancy-a-c-shroud-mods-on-my-75th-prototype-66018.html

Here is what it looks like:































I also at the time installed a 50's Airstream logo to my propane tank cover, which helped a little:










Well, I always have intended to do a little more...but work and time hasn't always seen eye to eye. I finally got around to adding a little more chrome and blue to the propane tank cover...my goal was to match the trim around the A/C shroud, and the goal for the A/C shroud was to pay homage to the 70's A/C units with their aluminum/blue trim around the beltline and to the 80's units with the Airstream logo up there. So, basically, I wanted the propane tank cover to tie in to that. I used "Cowles Products" chrome trim, which is the manufacturer of the beltline and rubrail trim on current Airstreams, and TrimBrite "Prostripe Medium Blue" pinstriping tape which is an exact match for the blue used on the vintage reproduction logos.

I used the 1" Cowles chrome trim around the bottom of the propane tank cover (exactly the same product that Airstream uses for the rubrail trim), with 1/4" Cowles chrome trim around the 1" trim (to be similar to the trailer's rubrail design). I used Trimbrite "Prostripe" medium blue pinstriping tape in 3/8" width (I would prefer 1/2" but couldn't find it in stock). I like the fact that this new trim is in the same place and style as the rubrail trim on the trailer, as I always loved those Airstream trailers with wide sidewall stripes where the stripe motif would also be continued on the propane tank covers...I always liked that attention to detail. So, I wanted to do a similar thing at the bottom of the tank cover, in the same place as the rubrail trim on the trailer...paying a little homage obliquely to the Airstreams of the past.

I wanted to continue this "blue stripes around the propane cover" idea but I couldn't on the main aluminum body of the propane cover as my trailer doesn't have any wide stripes that would correspond to such an idea. So, I quasi-sorta continued the "blue around the cover" idea by putting two "Custom" emblems from Vintage Trailer Supply on each side of the tank cover, centered in the middle of the "Airstream" logo on the front...kind of creating an "invisible" blue line ghost stripe around the cover where the logos are as they are all in-line around the perimeter of the cover. I think the "Custom" logos are effective in keeping with David Winick's "75th Custom" emblem on the side of the trailer in that he used these original 50's "Custom" emblems for the design of his logo. And, being the prototype, the trailer truly is custom...so the 50's logos fit the overall theme. And, they add a bit of blue...and I like the way they look.

I added the 1/2" chrome Cowles trim to the top gray plastic lid of the propane cover, which is 1/8" less wide than the factory beltline trim (which actually measures 5/8" even though Airstream lists it as 1/2") on the trailer...otherwise it is exactly the same chrome product but it fits better in the ledge area of the gray plastic lid. I used 1/4" TrimBrite "Prostripe" pinstriping tape down the center of the chrome, again in Medium Blue. It looks nice mounted on the dark gray top cover, which was just a bit drab. I also polished the front rivets.

I don't have any really good pics of it yet, and I haven't had a chance to go to my storage and put it on to see what it looks like on my trailer. But, I was excited so I took some cameraphone pics...










Basically I'm going to continue this "add a little blue" motif on the trailer in the same way. My plan is to use the 1/2" medium blue Prostripe pinstriping tape centered in the 1" chrome trim of the rubrail all the way around the trailer (pretty much the same as what I did to the bottom of the propane tank cover). I also plan on doing the same thing with 1/4" medium blue tape centered on the 5/8" beltline chrome all the way around the trailer, which will tie in nicely with the trim I installed on the top of the propane cover lid. The medium blue over the chrome gives a near optical illusion in that it doesn't look on "top" of the chrome but "inside" it, if that makes any sense. It really makes the little bit of blue pop.

The last blue mod I'm doing is the wheels. I'm adding Centramatics from Andy. I've purchased new 16" Dexstar steel rims, and I actually found stainless steel baby moons that fit those wheels (Phoenix USA 1309SS) that don't dent when putting them on. I'm painting the rims with Rustoleum Sail Blue (it pops a bit better than Royal Blue) and then I'll install ribbed stainless trim rings (that don't cover the rim edges; the outer 1/2" of the rim will stay blue) which are available nearly anywhere online, and they fit the Dexstar rims perfectly. I'm going with Michelin XPS Rib tires, 225/75/16, and I'm purchasing them through DiamondBack Tires where they will have custom blue lines and whitewalls added. I'm going with a 1 1/2" wide whitewall, but there will be 1/2" of black between the blue edge of the rim and the whitewall. Then, next to the outer edge of the whitewall will be the dual bluelines, which will be appropriately spaced with about 3/8" of black between them. The tires haven't come in yet, and I'm working on the rims now.

I'm going to be installing some "Airstream" logos centered over each of my wheelwells. I chose the logos from the Sport trailers; the all chrome plastic letter ones. I wanted the centers of the letters blue, and I wanted them to match the Prostripe medium blue color. Well, my local sign shop acted as if this was impossible to do...I figured they could just scan the logos and laser cut some letters to fit the on the chrome plastic letters, leaving the chrome edges. Seems like being a sign shop, this would be simple for them. But, of course not...they acted as if they never heard such a request. The owner even said, "That's a lotta cuttin'...I don't want that job." I don't get it...this is what they do. Anyhoo, after pleading with them to "try" they made me some letters. Of course they didn't have the exact color so I chose a Scotchcal color that's a bit brighter but it "pops" good. And, the logos are going to be mounted close to the ground, mainly to bring out the blue of my rims and bluelines on my tires...so it should work.

I installed the letters they made, and it was a *****. They didn't make me matching letters per se (I guess that was too hard) so they found a "close" font. All the letters they made fit inside the chrome pretty well...only the "R" is really off, the "M" is somewhat off, and the "S" isn't perfect. But, the others are fine. I had to do some trimming with a razor blade, but I got the blue vinyl installed and they look good. No one will notice the blue vinyl isn't perfectly shaped to the originals, but then again the sign shop only charged me $20 and gave me an extra set of letters. The letters will be close to the ground, and they do what I wanted...add a little blue to the trailer while recalling the 70's Airstream lettering of the past. I think it will look good. Here are a couple bad phone pics of the letters with the blue vinyl just installed...





I hope to have the "Airstream" lettering installed over the wheelwells sometime this week...although it's going to take a few weeks for my tires to be customized at DiamondBack. I'm going to paint the steel portions of the wheelwells while I'm under there, and I'll put a thin blue pinstripe along the flat area of the wheelwell trim.

I painted the rims today with Rustoleum Sail Blue spraypaint. Talk about "POP"!!! The color matches both the letters above in this thread (which are a tiny bit brighter) and my Prostripe Medium Blue pinstriping tape, which is a tad bit richer. But, with the baby moons and trim rings (and the fact that the baby moons are HUGE on a 16" rim...12" across the hubcap!) there isn't much blue at all on the rim that will actually show...so the blue I chose HAD to "pop" as I wanted it to stand out.

I have to say that the Rustoleum is amazing paint. It goes on very well, very consistently, and building up coats thickens the paint to look like you could swim in it...all without needing clearcoat or polishing. Of course this Rustoleum takes forever to dry, but fast drying paints that dry as you spray them turn out splotchy and are hard to get a consistent gloss without clearcoating, sanding and polishing. But, these are just wheels, and with so little blue that will eventually show in my case, who wants to put all that time in clearing, sanding, buffing, and polishing WHEELS? Not me...the Rustoleum was nearly foolproof. Of course an entire corner of my yard is covered with blue thick-ish overspray (one of the things that makes the paint work so well). I wish I could bake the rims (baking Rustoleum enamel turns out GREAT) but my oven isn't large enough for the 16" wheel to fit. So, it will have to cure for a few days. That's fine as my tires won't be here for a while...

Here are a couple pics of how the Rustoleum Sail Blue "pops" and coats smoothly, thick, and amazingly consistent:







Was this post long enough???



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Here are some pictures of the materials I chose to go with on the inside of my trailer. I love the 70's orange/brown/green color pallette (which is VERY ODD that it has become fashionable again...you don't know the ridicule I've endured for DECADES for liking these colors!!! ha ha) and I also love the round porthole design aspect of the 75th. The slightly muted greens of the counters, floor, and cushions of the 75th are pulled out with the materials I've used, and the "orange-y-ness" of the cabinetry is highlighted as well. I chose a Michael Miller "Ring Dot Spice" (which has since been discontinued) for the main theme:



It gets a little crazy and busy on it's own, but the dark brown highlights in it tone it down nicely.

I've got to thank my Mom for making my curtains, pillows, and placemats...she knows how perfectionistic I am (I hate being like that) and she bout drove herself nuts making these for me. She definitely went WAAAAAY above and beyond as it all came out perfect! She loved these colors in the 70's and she even started coming around to liking them again, since they fit so well in the throwback design of the 75th. It really warms it up in there and makes it feel "campy" as 70's earthtones DEFINITELY invite memories of that golden era of family camping.

Here are some fuzzy, bad camera phone pics of the curtains and various stages of their development...I love the throwpillows especially. The brown piping on the edges and button really make it all work. The best part is...we're not done yet? More throwpillows and quilts will be made for the back bed/lounge area. The pictures don't do the interior justice as they throw a yellow-ish haze over everything, but you get the idea:










Now I just need to find that 8-track of the soundtrack to the Bee Gees/Peter Frampton movie of Sgt. Pepper's, record it on minidisc, install a minidisc stereo in the 75th, add a round mirror ball, and we're all set!
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Do you have a photo of your awning? That is on my To Do List. We also want to do strips, might pick more 'Adirondack colors mind you... not sure. The blue is probably pretty sweet!
Found a couple more pics that show the awning...



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Wow! Awesome post. Was expect maybe one photo lol.

I am truly attached to our Winick (and our teardrop as well). We are only 'contemplating' a 23FB pre season. Once we go to pick up the 40 Winker I am sure Kate will change her mind

We actually only looked at the 23FB because I went to the local dealer to buy an Airstream hat since Airstream charges $24 for the hat and a whooping $22 to ship it! lol. It's a promotional item guys, help us help YOU promote the Airstream brand . So we go in to buy a hat they didn't have and ended up looking at another Airstream ha ha.

Anyways back on topic! Love the SSR / Winick combo!! Looks fantastic.

Airstream needs to give you some kind of kickback or whatever for all the branding you are doing!

What is the towing capacity on the SSR? Did you do anything special to allow towing the A/S?

I need to get some of that trim for the bottom of our propane tank cover. Can't understand why Airstream designed it so you have metal on metal rubbing. Had to repair the resultant rust caused by this design flaw.

I'll Have to read your post again later when I have more than 5 minutes lol.

Good on mom for making the curtains. Kate made some tie back straps for ours that have bear shaped buttons for the Adirondack match lol. Fancy pillows too I see!

Keep us posted on all you mods!

I could post photos of the duct tape I used to assist in keeping the mice out ha ha!

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Got my lettering all centered and mounted over the wheelwells, along with a thin blue pinstripe along the wheelwell molding...






And...got my Michelin XPS Rib tires in, modified by DiamondBack tires with a wide whitewall and dual bluelines...they look amazing! Can't wait to mount them on my blue rims with the stainless baby moons and trim rings...





WooHoo!!!!

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Finally got my tires and rims installed!!! WooHoo...it's been alot of work.

With the damn humidity down here in Louisiana that Rustoleum Sail Blue paint (which I LOVE the color of) never dried correctly on my rims. I spent 8 hours just STRIPPING them, sanding them, and prepping/priming them for repaint (the first of TWO repaints). I repainted them, again, with the Rustoleum-thinking it was possibly something wrong with the cans of paint that I used. The Rustoleum just wouldn't dry properly...spiderwebs would appear after about 3 days. Usually spiderwebs are an indication of too thick paint, but that was not the case...ESPECIALLY not the 2nd time I painted them. I purposely left the coats thin, followed all proper directions for coating/recoating...EXCEPT the humidity. You just can't escape it down here.

Anyway, the SECOND time I painted them, the damn Rustoleum did the same thing. After a few days, spiderwebs appeared. Even with thin coats...the paint was just a gummy mess. So, I had to spend ANOTHER 8 hours stripping them with Aircraft stripper, which turned the Rustoleum into a thick goo...the paint didn't just lift as is common with chemical stripper. So, the next step was to use steel wool soaked in paint thinner and/or stripper (with gloves of course) and rub. And rub. And rub. And rub some more. And wonder if you have any skin on your finger tips. And rub. Then, after that, sand the entire rims smooth and prime them...

So, I had to paint them a third time. This time, I used Dupli-Color ceramic engine enamel, in regular Ford Blue with no clear coat (I didn't use clear the previous two times either). The Dupli-Color Ford Blue is similar to the Rustoleum Sail Blue, but it has an itty bitty tinge of a slight yellow hue to it. The Rustoleum has more of a true ever-so-slight purply-blue tint to it. The Rustoleum matches my pinstripes and Airstream logos perfectly...the Dupli-Color Ford Blue is just a tiny bit darker and as I stated a tiny tiny bit yellower. The Duplicolor doesn't cover as thick or as even as the Rustoleum, and it doesn't create the beautiful smooth deep-glass finish right out of the can that the Rustoleum does, but it DRIES. I just couldn't get the Rustoleum to dry down here in this humidity...the Dupli-Color was close enough in color, and it dried hard and quick. I mildly hand-polished them, and had my tires installed and balanced.

I installed them tonight. I love the way they look. I am REALLY happy. The tires, again are Michelin XPS Ribs in a 225/75/16, customized by DiamondBack Tires with a 1.5" whitewall and dual blue lines. The blue lines are the exact same color as my pinstripes (and the Rustoleum Sail Blue, sadly). The stripes on the tires take away some of the HUGENESS of these tires.

The trim rings are stainless steel, ribbed. The hubcaps are PhoenixUSA 1309SS also in stainless steel. They fit the 16" Dexstar rims with ease...no denting, no forcing. I also installed Centramatics from Andy while I was at it.

Here are some pics of the rims and tires. Talk about POP!!!











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Does any one know someone else who wants a David Winick 75th, anniversary model ?? If so call 501-944-6817
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David Winick #7 and Another Unit For Sale

Ran across 2 David Winick 75th Anniversary units available for sale for anyone interested.

LUCKY #7 has never been used. $49,400 in Winters, CA (listed with RV Trader Jan 24, 2013)
http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/AIRS...le&BAC-Oodle=&

A used 7TH listed for $46,500 in Grass Valley, CA (listed on Air Stream Classifieds Jan/Feb 2013)
http://www.airstreamclassifieds.com/...=18058&cat=all

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