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05-17-2017, 03:48 PM
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Dino & Mike
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Northridge
, California
Join Date: Sep 2016
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Can 22 ft Sport Bathroom Door be Held or Latched Open
I'm still deciding between the 16' and 19' FC or Int Ser models (due to size and weight) but in looking at the floor plan of the 22', I'm wondering:
Can the bathroom door be latched in the open position? Held against the closet door? Is a latch provided and would you want to? If you did (or do) does it get in the way of walking in out of the main entry door as turn right, into the kitchen area?
I ask because in my shopping at the AS dealerships, we step into a 22' Sport and leave right away because we "feel" its too "dark" compared with the other 2 models (or 3 versions of 19') that have the bed in the back with its big window. I love most everything about the 22' Sport but my brain just sees the big window in front and door in the back (to the bathroom) and wish there was a view there too.
But it just occurred to me the maybe some of you latch that bathroom door open, when parked, for the added views and light.
What's your view on this?
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05-17-2017, 06:36 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 22' Sport
2021 27' Globetrotter
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Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 161
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stream-Style
I'm still deciding between the 16' and 19' FC or Int Ser models (due to size and weight) but in looking at the floor plan of the 22', I'm wondering:
Can the bathroom door be latched in the open position? Held against the closet door? Is a latch provided and would you want to? If you did (or do) does it get in the way of walking in out of the main entry door as turn right, into the kitchen area?
I ask because in my shopping at the AS dealerships, we step into a 22' Sport and leave right away because we "feel" its too "dark" compared with the other 2 models (or 3 versions of 19') that have the bed in the back with its big window. I love most everything about the 22' Sport but my brain just sees the big window in front and door in the back (to the bathroom) and wish there was a view there too.
But it just occurred to me the maybe some of you latch that bathroom door open, when parked, for the added views and light.
What's your view on this?
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We find the solid door to the bath blocks the light and cross ventilation when shut. I am planning to remove it and build a custom privacy glass bifold door which will probably stay open except when the bathroom is in use. For now as a temporary measure, I inserted a 1" rare earth magnet inset on the back of the closet door in line with the metal handle of the bath door. Holds it open with no visible details.
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05-17-2017, 07:16 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 22' Sport
2018 26' Flying Cloud
Brighton
, Michigan
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 76
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Small bungee hooked to the br door and closet door works well. Not as pretty as the magnet suggested. With the front window open, br window open and fan on you get good ventilation. Some additional light with the br door open. With all the side blinds/curtains open the unit is very bright. Decent view out the back, not like the front wrap-around windows though.
We like the rear bath and the big shower, makes the rest of the space work well and we don't feel cramped.
No problem entering thru the main door and turning right or going in the br.
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05-18-2017, 05:26 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 22' FB Sport
2018 27' Flying Cloud
2021 30RB Classic
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Fredericksburg
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Our bathroom door in our 22FB stays wherever it gets opened to on its own and is only closed for privacy when using the bathroom and like Rivet Rocket stated, ventilation is very good with the windows open.
I have placed a clear, kitchen cabinet bumper on the bathroom door handle so I don't get the metal to metal bang when the bathroom door handle hits the closet door handle.
As far as views out windows go, we are inside our AS sleep, change clothes, use the bathroom, get something, prepare meals, work or watch tv. We do not sit inside our Airstream to admire the view out the windows, we sit outside our Airstream to admire the view and enjoy the outdoors.
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05-18-2017, 05:39 AM
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Retired.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twbucksr
I have placed a clear, kitchen cabinet bumper on the bathroom door handle so I don't get the metal to metal bang when the bathroom door handle hits the closet door handle.
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I do this on every one of these that goes out, though the handles all seem to hit the closet door, rather than the handle. It prevents the handle from marring the surface of the closet door. I place the bumper on the closet door, rather than the bathroom door handle.
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05-18-2017, 09:42 AM
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Dino & Mike
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Northridge
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Join Date: Sep 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twbucksr
As far as views out windows go, we are inside our AS sleep, change clothes, use the bathroom, get something, prepare meals, work or watch tv. We do not sit inside our Airstream to admire the view out the windows, we sit outside our Airstream to admire the view and enjoy the outdoors.
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I'm with you twbucksr, that is how we plan to use our new AS.
You've all convinced me to put the 22' Sport back into the mix. Although, my other half said last night that if one of us has to get away from the other because he's snoring, the 22's 2nd bed/dinette is in the middle, not at the other end. Oh well, 2 steps forward, 1 step back....
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05-18-2017, 12:18 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2015 22' FB Sport
West Halifax
, Vermont
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 19
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I place a simple rubber doorstop under the bathroom door of my 2015 22FB Sport to prop open the bathroom door. Since my only companions are my two dogs, I rarely need to close the door -- only for privacy when using the loo at night if I haven't lowered the shades over the dinette.
There is definitely no problem going in and out the exit door with this arrangement.
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05-18-2017, 12:34 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Bakersfield
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stream-Style
I'm with you twbucksr, that is how we plan to use our new AS.
You've all convinced me to put the 22' Sport back into the mix. Although, my other half said last night that if one of us has to get away from the other because he's snoring, the 22's 2nd bed/dinette is in the middle, not at the other end. Oh well, 2 steps forward, 1 step back....
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Bungee for now, I like the magnet idea though. I think we are definitely in the minority when it comes to how we decided on which AS to purchase. We weren't even thinking about buying one. Our daughter just remodeled a pop up and said a trailer was something we should think about. I said "well maybe an AS, and was shocked when my "trawler" hubby agreed. Our daughter looked on line and found one at a local dealer. That's the one we bought a week later. It's a 22' FB (previously owned). Compared to the three others we looked at we felt it was pretty open. I wouldn't recommend everyone buy this way, but fortunately it worked for us. We love it, and really don't spend much time inside either. One thing I did, knowing I could change it back, I took down the curtain and plexiglass divider between the bed and the dinette. My husband loves it this way and I think I do too. Good luck on your decision.
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05-18-2017, 12:43 PM
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Rivet Master
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Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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door hook
Boats use a hook and eye hardware configuration to hold a door in position. They look better than the hardware store variety and are available from marine supply stores. Best install is the hook and two eyes. One eye to position the door open or even partially open and a second one on the door to hold the hook from swinging when not in use. You may need a stop rest or bumper to hold the door from swinging against the hook, but since use will likely be when parked it is an extra and not a must do.
http://search.defender.com/?expression=door%20hook&s=1
Generally, my opinion is that if this is really a problem for you, another floor plan may be your friend. However compromises are everyone's solution to specific short falls and the narrow frontal area of the 22 is a significant advantage.
Travel safe. Pat
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05-18-2017, 06:14 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2009 27' FB Classic
Sioux Falls
, South Dakota
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 117
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I used a foot on the bottom of the door that swings up when not in use. When down the rubber tip holds the door in any position open.
Happy streaming
gra
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05-18-2017, 09:06 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2015 22' FB Sport
Toronto
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 64
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Similar to the bungee court idea, we just use one of those rubberized permanent twist tie things. Works fine
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05-18-2017, 09:28 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 22' Sport
2020 25' International
Clinton
, Land of Purple Mtn Majesty,Montana
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 312
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We have the 22' and the bathroom door isn't a problem....shut or open. If you open the shade on the skylight, the side window blinds you have a great deal of light inside. Most of us who own this coach have also made a few mods to it like moving the dining room table pedestal closer to the back bench seat. This will permit the dinette area to be converted to a lounge which adds walk space . The other thing...."make it yours"...add your own special taste of decorations....beit photos, artwork etc. Although narrower than the other series coaches it is a dream to pull and really quite comfortable.
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05-19-2017, 10:33 AM
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Rivet Master
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Walnut Creek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stream-Style
-- snip -- if one of us has to get away from the other because he's snoring, the 22's 2nd bed/dinette is in the middle, not at the other end. -- snip --:
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You might be able to resolve. Options:
Roll him over to stop the snoring.
Run fan or noise canceling audio to mask the sound.
Be tired enough to go to sleep.
Use ear plugs.
Invent the cone of silence and you will make a fortune!
The 22 has a layout that works for some. It is a little 23FB and we like that best, as it is a great compromise for us. Others see it a bit different - See the 20s. It is all a compromise, but it should be your compromise. Get it right, because trading cost $s. You will change your perspective over time with more experience. That is just the reality. But you can know yourself and those principles won't change.
Is low cost important enough to offset compromise A, B, & C? Is a big bed or bathroom more important than a view? Is size of layout more important than small site access or ease of towing? Can you get to where you want to go with an AS and most important this AS?
Go sit in a variety of layouts. Talk about how you will use it, store in it, travel with it, tow it, pay for it, and store it ..... everything! You will figure it out.
Caution ..... shiny trailers reflect lots of smiles ...... you will become infected. Enjoy the adventure. Pat
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05-26-2017, 07:56 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 22' Sport
Sandpoint
, Idaho
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 35
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Major reasons we went from 16 to 22: bigger bed, only Airstream narrower than 8ft (7-3), lighter than other units with 54 inch bed.
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05-27-2017, 10:46 AM
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Dino & Mike
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Northridge
, California
Join Date: Sep 2016
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Good points by you all.
We went camping in Yosemite Valley last weekend at Housekeeping Tent-cabins so it was true camping but we did not need to set up a tent and they provide the cot and mattress. It had occurred to us, that this might be our last time camping and the next time, we will be in an Airstream!
It was a kinda sad thought but after re-loading our truck with 6 storage bins marked: kitchen, cooking, cleaning etc... and unloading the stuff at home and putting it back into the garage, well, (and bringing Peets coffee but somehow loosing the portable espresso maker ) well, we can't wait to be in Airstream.
We just need to add a few more square yards of paving stones in the side yard and knock down a concrete decorative brick pilar so we can buy and drive it home. But in meantime, we are enjoying the process.
Thanks, Dino and Mike
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05-27-2017, 07:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 22' Safari
Spicewood (W of Austin)
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,950
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There may be more elegant solutions but we simply hang a bungee from the metal loop which holds the TV-strap to the wall beside the wardrobe. When we want the bath door to remain open, we hook the dangling-end of the bungee to the bath door handle.
We also installed a full-length mirror on the front-side of the bath door. Not only because it helps us getting dressed, but also gives a much more open feeling when the bath door is closed. (and on the inside of the bath door, we installed a couple more towel-bars. We used "binder-posts" to attach them to provide more support as the posts penetrate thru the door completely, showing only a small aluminum button on the cabin-side of the door.)
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06-01-2017, 12:29 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2015 22' FB Sport
Westminster
, California
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 10
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More than enough light
We just returned from a trip to Zion and Grand Canyon and were grateful for the narrow width of the 22FB Sport. We were able to go through the Zion Tunnel without an escort. The sun light is one of the best features. We open it first thing in the morning and have enough light to get dressed and make coffee before we open the windows. We have a 2015 which doesn't have the window in the door and have never felt we lacked light, and with the windows open and the roof vent if there is a breeze we have plenty of air.
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06-02-2017, 04:51 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 22' Safari
Spicewood (W of Austin)
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,950
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You can't tell from these pics, but even the tent campers wouldn't use this site. It was available only because I could get into it, the entrance required backing UP a 20% grade. I was going to level the trailer but could barely find enough boards/rocks/pads for the tongue jack to be able to level the trailer, and it made me uncomfortable to drive away exploring for fear of the trailer getting-away and rolling down (to where these pics don't show in front of the truck) into a deep valley ahead....so I had to cut a 90-degree turn into the last 25 feet to back it into the spot (site 13). We barely could open the trailer door, with about 6" to spare between the hinges and the rock. Thank goodness for a single-axle 22-footer! (Oh, yeah...and a common ball-hitch.)
What a beautiful place, City of Rocks, north of Deming, south of Gila Cliff Dwellings. CLICK on the pics for a better view:
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06-02-2017, 05:01 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 22' Sport
2021 27' Globetrotter
Geographicly
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Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 161
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxite
You can't tell from these pics, but even the tent campers wouldn't use this site. It was available only because I could get into it, the entrance required backing UP a 20% grade. I was going to level the trailer but could barely find enough boards/rocks/pads for the tongue jack to be able to level the trailer, and it made me uncomfortable to drive away exploring for fear of the trailer getting-away and rolling down (to where these pics don't show in front of the truck) into a deep valley ahead....so I had to cut a 90-degree turn into the last 25 feet to back it into the spot (site 13). We barely could open the trailer door, with about 6" to spare between the hinges and the rock. Thank goodness for a single-axle 22-footer!
What a beautiful place, City of Rocks, north of Deming, south of Gila Cliff Dwellings. CLICK on the pics for a better view:
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That is a very impressive and totally cool shot of the stern side in the rock formations. You'd never know it was a less than desirable site.
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06-04-2017, 06:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2022 25' Flying Cloud
NCR
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,085
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we use a bungy chord . it works very well still or while travelling
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