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Old 12-26-2017, 05:55 PM   #61
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The improvement measured at Ford Motor on light duty trucks was a little more than 1 mpg and on small cars over 2 mpg when the mirrors are replaced by cameras. The CAFE requirement for 2025 is a fleet average of 54 mpg. Automakers will be penalized for every tenth of a mpg they are under. Ford is offering buyout, stopping production of the Focus, sending other cars to Asia to scrape together the $14 billion dollars they will spend trying to avoid a potentially much larger penalty. Do you honestly think they will pass up an easy 1 mpg that marketing can sell as an improvement? And BTW when backing into a space it is an improvement, it helps. I spent a fortune on the damn thing, it should do whatever the hell I want it to.
Iím aware of whatís you cite. Itís mainly politics. Better ways to cut the national fuel bill on personal transportation.

But Iíll stay with my assertions.

Now, in re backing. The trailer bumper encountering something isnít the problem. Ever. Itís the tail swing. Objects not in the exact line of travel. Thatís where the real damage occurs.

Donít expect a camera to cover this problem unless you go to side mount in a pair.

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Old 12-26-2017, 06:03 PM   #62
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that's exactly what I intend to do.
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Old 12-26-2017, 08:30 PM   #63
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Iím aware of whatís you cite. Itís mainly politics. Better ways to cut the national fuel bill on personal transportation.

But Iíll stay with my assertions.

Now, in re backing. The trailer bumper encountering something isnít the problem. Ever. Itís the tail swing. Objects not in the exact line of travel. Thatís where the real damage occurs.

Donít expect a camera to cover this problem unless you go to side mount in a pair.

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I can back a trailer just fine without a camera. The camera helps.
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Old 12-26-2017, 09:41 PM   #64
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Iím installing a rear viewing camera up high and side cameras both sides that can be selected via turn signals. It is a fully wired system.
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Old 12-26-2017, 09:47 PM   #65
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For backing, I'll stick with an investigation of the area, an expert spotter, the new camera, both mirrors, and slow steady progress. Anything less is an opportunity to improve some good aluminum sheet metal worker's retirement plan. Pat
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Old 01-09-2018, 07:00 PM   #66
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camera for viewing behind trailer while driving

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For backing, I'll stick with an investigation of the area, an expert spotter, the new camera, both mirrors, and slow steady progress. Anything less is an opportunity to improve some good aluminum sheet metal worker's retirement plan. Pat


There will be occasions when the "expert spotter" is not available.
I carry a couple of orange traffic cones to define my limits, a backup camera, and no hesitation to get out to re-appraise the situation.
"Anything less is an opportunity to improve some good aluminum sheet metal worker's retirement plan. "

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Even with my expert spotter, mirrors, camera, I G.O.A.L often while parking. (Get Out And Look)
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Old 01-10-2018, 04:31 AM   #68
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I carry a couple of orange traffic cones to define my limits

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A darn good suggestion I second or third it.

I recently backed into a sea of fallen leaves all looked the same.
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The ones I found were 6-8" in dia, about 2" tall and yellow in color. They work for guiding a backup path, show up to mark the tow vehicle at night, and do not take up much space. Pat
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A darn good suggestion I second or third it.

I recently backed into a sea of fallen leaves all looked the same.
I store my Airstream in a hangar on my property. The actual "spot" it resides is surrounded on all-sides by equipment and airplanes...back in a corner.
When I pulled it out ... I went back and used marking-paint to paint the tire-tracks in the dusty floor...which resemble a "curve" from the parking chocks I permanently leave placed upon carpet-squares that the tires rest upon when stored. (I don't want the tires sitting long-term directly on concrete as that's not a good environment for either.)
Now, when I back the trailer into it's storage-spot... I observe the rear-view camera on back of the trailer... but I also use my side-mirrors to keep the trailer tires upon the bright-orange marking-paint "tracks" ... which lead the trailer directly back into it's spot... and thereby avoid sheet-aluminum damage on all sorts of equipment/vehicles in the hangar.
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I didn't get the rear vision camera option because I knew how well I could see behind the trailer while towing. (with extended mirrors). Plus it was $675. However, returning from my first trip and backing into my 12' wide slot at the storage shelter in the dark had me concerned about crunching the sheet metal on my first trip.
I found riding the brake threw a lot of light behind the trailer, and after getting out about five times, I was parked and headed home.
The next day, in the daylight, I saw I was way forward (the power cord didn't reach), and skewed off of parallel by a lot!
That's where the back up camera would be appreciated, not so much going down the road.

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parking chocks I permanently leave placed upon carpet-squares that the tires rest upon when stored.
Carpet squares! I like it! I'll find a color that shows up well under the red light of tail lights.
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Thanks for info. The A-pillar is problematic. Bracing may work from roof rack mount if forward extension is possible without excessive vision loss. Next step may well be a mockup. Pat
Hadn’t forgotten this, but also haven’t walked around truckstop with measuring tape. Sure have studued plenty while underway.

As to main mirror height vs width, the shuttle buses used at airports have good geometry overall.

Again, it’s the width of the convex that drives overall size.

A tall main mirror is chiefly concerned with view alongside the rig, with maybe the top quarter to third adjuste for traffic; coming over a rise and then levelking off: does following traffic just barely show up as they top the rise? That’s about right. (One starts on level ground and places main mirror midpoint at horizon).

The drawback to commercial truck mirrors is the oversized housing. Meant to take a thwack once in a while. (Nothing like swapping mirrors with an inbound truck on the George Washington in trying to leave NYC).

Vibration at speed will be the aggravating problem.

See Glass Options at Safe Fleet. I think 8” a little wide, 7” better. Also see Fleetpride. Local to you.
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Old 04-14-2018, 08:35 AM   #73
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out Garmin RV GPS has a rear camera

i wired it to the lights in the AS
the signal is wireless to the GPS unit in the TV

when i want to see whats behind me, i turn on the TV lights.

at night the camera is always on, the Garmin rv GPS can toggle between map and rear camera

great solution for under $300 with lifetime maps
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