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Old 07-06-2019, 10:08 AM   #15
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The 20’ AS only comes with a since AC unit, but I presume it would do a good enough job to keep it comfortable on moderately warm days (80-85)? We would likely go with one of these single axel models and at this point, the new Caravel 20FB is looking to be the one for us. I was waiting to see the 20FB Bambi, but doubt the central air they have in there is any quieter then the Sport.
We have a single ac 27 FC, ducted. It does fine keeping cool up to 90 degrees or so. If it's 95 or higher it struggles a bit.

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Old 07-06-2019, 10:13 AM   #16
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Just an as a related aside to this discussion, one of the 'perks' of ducted A/C for me has been that my towels dry quickly when hung on towel rack in bathroom if either heat pump or A/C is in use. This is because heat/AC is now ducted into the bathroom where before, it was not.
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Old 07-06-2019, 10:33 AM   #17
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If you plan on using AC, get ducted. If you travel off season and seldom will use AC and the central is enough of a cost savings to allow you to buy, get it. However, don't complain about the noise later. There are noise suppression baffles available for central systems. No info on real performance, so research before you assume it's a solution. The original 23 ducted had a problem with flow due to duct assembly. Would expect that to have been resolved on all models, and no one is reporting the problem now, but new is new - check close at pickup. The value of Central AC is that you will never hear traffic at night. When it's hot enough for AC, we don't care about the noise. However, if we could have purchased ducted, we would have. It was not available on the 23 in 2015. My advice, buy the ducted. Pat
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Old 07-06-2019, 11:05 AM   #18
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We listen to the television thru the Airstream speakers which helps, slightly, if you sit under the speakers at the dinette. But we've been wondering if a sound bar might make it possible to actually hear the TV over the AC. Mind sharing which sound bar you use?
I tried a couple and settled on the ZVOX as the best option.
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Old 07-06-2019, 11:35 AM   #19
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It sounds like most of you are for ducted as the better option. The sound of the central must be horrendous. And let’s face it, if I purchase a new 2020 model, I don’t want to listen to a loud AC while trying to relax.

Concerning the sound bar, can you provide a photo of how you installed and mounted it? Is it mounted to the bottom of the TV so it swivels with it as a single unit?
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Old 07-06-2019, 12:05 PM   #20
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Too hard to get a picture. I just used 3 pieces of flat aluminum, a horizontal piece that attaches to the TV mounting bracket and then a vertical piece at each end that attach to the horizontal piece and the two sound bar mounting holes. Machine screws, nuts, lock washers. Works great, under the TV, moves with the TV. Directs sound to your face and ears instead of down to the floor.
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Old 07-06-2019, 04:29 PM   #21
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I'm on my 3rd new Dometic AC for my ducted 2017 FC. The noise is as loud as the central I experienced in my 2015 International. My local AS dealer techs are puzzled as were the techs at last year's International Rally (Salem, OR). What makes it worse is that it doesn't cool as quickly as the central unit plus there's vibration that can be felt from the floor (if barefoot) and through the bed mattress at night. No one has been able to diagnose or account for the noise and vibration which. Hence, the new units. Sounds like I'm just about the only one with this issue for the ducted.
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I'm on my 3rd new Dometic AC for my ducted 2017 FC. The noise is as loud as the central I experienced in my 2015 International. My local AS dealer techs are puzzled as were the techs at last year's International Rally (Salem, OR). What makes it worse is that it doesn't cool as quickly as the central unit plus there's vibration that can be felt from the floor (if barefoot) and through the bed mattress at night. No one has been able to diagnose or account for the noise and vibration which. Hence, the new units. Sounds like I'm just about the only one with this issue for the ducted.


And they can’t figure out what’s causing it, even after replacing the AC unit a couple of times?
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Old 07-06-2019, 06:37 PM   #23
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The new ones are a game changer. The TV was almost impossible to watch and it was very difficult to sleep with the central air turned on. But with the ducted air you can carry on normal conversations, watch TV, eat dinner and sleep in comfort.
YES, this makes all the difference in the world! I believe the ducted distributes the air way better than the central unit can.
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Old 07-07-2019, 07:46 AM   #24
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I'm on my 3rd new Dometic AC for my ducted 2017 FC. The noise is as loud as the central I experienced in my 2015 International. My local AS dealer techs are puzzled as were the techs at last year's International Rally (Salem, OR). What makes it worse is that it doesn't cool as quickly as the central unit plus there's vibration that can be felt from the floor (if barefoot) and through the bed mattress at night. No one has been able to diagnose or account for the noise and vibration which. Hence, the new units. Sounds like I'm just about the only one with this issue for the ducted.

My brother had the same problem in his 2017 25FC and it turned out to be a vibration from something loose in the A/C. Found, fixed, and much quiter now. I'll ask him what it was exactly.
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It sounds like most of you are for ducted as the better option. The sound of the central must be horrendous. And let’s face it, if I purchase a new 2020 model, I don’t want to listen to a loud AC while trying to relax.

Concerning the sound bar, can you provide a photo of how you installed and mounted it? Is it mounted to the bottom of the TV so it swivels with it as a single unit?


I mounted mine under the TV. Both are fixed to the wall (not on an articulating arm). I deployed the Samsung TV Mate soundbar. Works well with its small footprint.

I also changed the standard 28” Samsung for a smart 32” Samsung screen with built in Apple TV.
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I'm on my 3rd new Dometic AC for my ducted 2017 FC. The noise is as loud as the central I experienced in my 2015 International. My local AS dealer techs are puzzled as were the techs at last year's International Rally (Salem, OR). What makes it worse is that it doesn't cool as quickly as the central unit plus there's vibration that can be felt from the floor (if barefoot) and through the bed mattress at night. No one has been able to diagnose or account for the noise and vibration which. Hence, the new units. Sounds like I'm just about the only one with this issue for the ducted.
You are not alone. We had a 2017 Int. Serenity 23D with the ducted air (13,500 BTU single unit). This was our first Airstream. The ducted HVAC did a good job and we thought it was not overly loud.


We recently sold that Airstream and purchased a new 2019 FC25 RBT with the ducted HVAC (single 15,000 BTU unit). Man, it is way quieter and smoother running than the other Airstream. It also seems to cool things down pretty quick. We did not realize that the 2107 trailer was not really right. It cooled and heated just fine. Noise level and vibration was noticeable.
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You are not alone. We had a 2017 Int. Serenity 23D with the ducted air (13,500 BTU single unit). This was our first Airstream. The ducted HVAC did a good job and we thought it was not overly loud.





We recently sold that Airstream and purchased a new 2019 FC25 RBT with the ducted HVAC (single 15,000 BTU unit). Man, it is way quieter and smoother running than the other Airstream. It also seems to cool things down pretty quick. We did not realize that the 2107 trailer was not really right. It cooled and heated just fine. Noise level and vibration was noticeable.


It sounds like AS has maybe gone with a different AC on the 2019+ models? Is the “Quiet-stream” branding they’re using new for 2019/2020? That could indicate a component change.
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I mounted mine under the TV. Both are fixed to the wall (not on an articulating arm). I deployed the Samsung TV Mate soundbar. Works well with its small footprint.

I also changed the standard 28” Samsung for a smart 32” Samsung screen with built in Apple TV.


Looks good! That’s a nice clean install. Which make/model soundbar is that?
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