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01-05-2016, 06:22 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 23' International
Hurst
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,495
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A question about clear coating
Good day! Please understand that I am a complete newbie (this is my first post). I understand that Airstream no longer clear coats their units, rather the skin from ALCOA is pre-finished in such a way to make coating unnecessary. My question is when did Airstream make this change: using the new ALCOA material and stop clear coating? Thank you very much.
Rob
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01-05-2016, 08:03 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Jupiter
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,140
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This is the first I have heard of that change, so I am curious to learn more about it. Where did your information come from?
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01-05-2016, 08:07 AM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
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That would certainly be an attempt to address many current and past issues.... hopefully ....
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01-05-2016, 08:12 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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I believe it was 1998-99 when they began using the Alcoa pre-coated panels. A very durable and sun-resistant finish, but susceptible to filiform corrosion beginning at the panel edges and rivet holes, or scratches. Those traveling/living in corrosive (salt) environments will need to treat these areas with corrosion preventive products such as CorrosionX or Boeshield T9 to stop or limit spread of the corrosion.
There are many good posts on prevention and repair of filiform corrosion in this forum, Google it. As usual you'll have to sort out a lot of complaints to get to the good information.
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01-05-2016, 08:53 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Jupiter
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,140
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From their website, in the section about their partnerships:
Alcoa® has been Airstream’s trusted partner for over 50 years. Did you know that Airstream uses almost 2 million pounds of flat aluminum every year? The Alcoa aluminum used to build Airstream trailers is painted with a thermally-cured clear coating that resists fading from direct sunlight, meaning your gleaming Airstream will remain untarnished, no matter how far the road takes you. They also supply durable aluminum-forged wheels for Airstream trailers.
Our Partnerships | Why Airstream | Airstream.com
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01-05-2016, 04:09 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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01-05-2016, 04:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 23' International
Hurst
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,495
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Thanks to all! I can easily see what a great group this is ... I'm really hoping that soon we, too, may join the group of happy owners! In the meantime, I'm sure that I will spend a lot of time here in "continuing education!"
All the best,
Rob
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01-05-2016, 06:05 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
1963 26' Overlander
1989 34' Excella
Johnsburg
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Prior to 1963 Plasticoat clear coating was an optional extra. 1964 -1997 Plasticoat was standard equipment. Plasticoat was a more flexible and softer coating than regular automotive enamel. It had a tendency to degrade with time, especially on the upper parts of the sidewalls and roof. Sometimes called Airstream male pattern baldness.
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01-05-2016, 06:21 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2000 30' Excella
Toledo
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 493
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I have seen some 2002's and a 2006 with the coating coming off like it's pealing and if it gets nicked and salt gets under it it turns black . at least the early stuff could be stripped and recoated . I was told by a refinisher he wouldn't touch one of the newer ones to refinish.
I almost bought a 2002 that had that problem drove 400 miles one way to see it . I'm still looking .
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01-05-2016, 06:53 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 30' Flying Cloud
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 682
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woodfox45
I have seen some 2002's and a 2006 with the coating coming off like it's pealing and if it gets nicked and salt gets under it it turns black . at least the early stuff could be stripped and recoated . I was told by a refinisher he wouldn't touch one of the newer ones to refinish.
I almost bought a 2002 that had that problem drove 400 miles one way to see it . I'm still looking .
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I would like to see a photo of an Airstream 2000 or later that has a pealing coating or has turned black underneath. You are the first that I know of to report such. Filiform corrosion, yes, but pealing?
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01-06-2016, 08:51 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2000 30' Excella
Toledo
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 493
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Howard L.
I would like to see a photo of an Airstream 2000 or later that has a pealing coating or has turned black underneath. You are the first that I know of to report such. Filiform corrosion, yes, but pealing?
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I guess if I would have bought it I would have lots of pictures . When I see another one I'll send you some pictures .
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01-06-2016, 10:23 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Pealing off?......more like falling off.
1/2 way down, just under/next to the awning roll...
5"
Frt curbside...
3"
Bob
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01-06-2016, 02:30 PM
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Rivet Master
1998 30' Excella 1000
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 546
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Wow! I had thought that new coating was proving durable since issued. I had always regretted getting my '98, one of the last years with the old clearcoat (that has gone to hell).
Now I don't feel quite as bad...
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01-07-2016, 09:19 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2000 30' Excella
Spring
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 5
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The new precoated aluminum was started during the 1999 production year with serial number 512613
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01-07-2016, 02:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,408
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When you have small areas try Nyalic
Nyalic®
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WBCCI# 30676
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01-07-2016, 05:58 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2000 30' Excella
Toledo
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 493
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cwf
When you have small areas try Nyalic
Nyalic®
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I just watcher their video very interesting , Thanks for the post
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05-03-2016, 04:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 22' Safari
Spicewood (W of Austin)
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,981
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I have used Nyalic on aircraft parts since the early 2000's and found it yellows and peels after long sun exposure. I would recommend automotive clearcoat paint over Nyalic. Small touch up fingernail-polish sizes available at WalMart and auto parts stores and aerosol spray paint cans of it also. Looks and blends exactly with the Airstream product after the filiform corrosion is cleaned up.
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