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Old 06-13-2017, 11:44 AM   #1
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23FB Air Conditioner BTU

Hey all, I'm currently looking at buying a 19 international or a 23FB international. I'm concerned about the a/c strength on the 23. I live in Texas where the heat stays in the high 90 to 100 degrees all summer. I noticed the 23 has the same size air conditioner as the 19. Do you guys think that will be an issue on the 23?? The dealer had a 19 setup outside the day I visited and the air conditioner didn't turn off the whole time I was there. Granted people were going in and out of it some. Just worried in the 23 that the a/c may be overloaded in our summers? Would really appreciate any southerners experience with this that might have a 23 with the same a/c setup. Thanks in advance!

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Old 06-13-2017, 12:08 PM   #2
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I don't think 2 AC units is an option on a 23. You should be fine with a single AC unit. I would get the awning package, though. Any AS 25' and over in the south and summer should have 2 AC units. We spend the winter in S. Florida and there are days when a single AC is not quite enough.

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Old 06-13-2017, 12:15 PM   #3
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In our 23' we have the optional 15,000 BTU A/C. I think the standard size is 13,500. Ours does a nice job in 90 degree heat, full sun, but it is loud. It's loud enough so you can't really enjoy the TV when it cycles on, but it is cool, that's for sure. The wife usually makes me turn it down because she gets so cold. 90 outside and she wears a sweatshirt inside.
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Old 06-13-2017, 12:41 PM   #4
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If the two units have the same A/C, the extra 4' of length [+/-] will result in much more exterior surface area to absorb heat and direct rays from the sun IMO. If you are sitting in direct sun in 90 degree plus weather, both air conditioners may be challenged cooling either length trailer down to 71 F.

From our perspective, the dry bath shower in the 23FB would be the one "plus" that controlled the choice over the 19' hands down.

Comparing the A/C units and cooling would be a distant #2 consideration.

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Hey all, I'm currently looking at buying a 19 international or a 23FB international. I'm concerned about the a/c strength on the 23. I live in Texas where the heat stays in the high 90 to 100 degrees all summer. I noticed the 23 has the same size air conditioner as the 19. Do you guys think that will be an issue on the 23?? The dealer had a 19 setup outside the day I visited and the air conditioner didn't turn off the whole time I was there. Granted people were going in and out of it some. Just worried in the 23 that the a/c may be overloaded in our summers? Would really appreciate any southerners experience with this that might have a 23 with the same a/c setup. Thanks in advance!

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Old 06-13-2017, 12:50 PM   #5
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From our perspective, the dry bath shower in the 23FB would be the one "plus" that controlled the choice over the 19' hands down.

Comparing the A/C units and cooling would be a distant #2 consideration.
19 is a dry bath too, with shower being close to, if not, the same size as the 23FB shower.
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Old 06-13-2017, 12:57 PM   #6
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Thanks for the correction! Would still go for the 23FB with its vastly improved bed location and size FWIW.

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Old 06-13-2017, 02:58 PM   #7
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PS -- Not sure what divides the front bedroom from the main room in the 23FB, but in our old 25' it was a light-duty accordion pleated panel, with a horizontal track at the top. In really hot weather, we would close this bedroom door, and stuff a pillow or two between the ceiling and the top track, thus maximizing the A/C's cooling in the main room.
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Old 06-14-2017, 12:53 AM   #8
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John, ...it's not an apples/apples comparison, but our AS is only 1 foot shorter (22' Sport) and the 13.5 AC does just fine for us, and I'm a guy who likes it to be cool down here in central TX. But I suppose changing to a 15K unit might be possible if you're at a dealer and want to pay extra....
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John, ...it's not an apples/apples comparison, but our AS is only 1 foot shorter (22' Sport) and the 13.5 AC does just fine for us, and I'm a guy who likes it to be cool down here in central TX.
It's also 6" narrower.
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It's also 6" narrower.
Correct.... but the cu/ft may be as large since it has smaller cabinetry...and my model (08) has mousefur lining the main living area which I believe helps insulate both temp and noise.

Clearly, this is only a subjective comparison...nothing scientific about it.
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:56 AM   #11
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We picked up a 23FB from Bayer down the road from you in Dublin, Tx in March. So far the standard 13.5 AC has done fine, including sitting out in an RV "ranch" outside of Blanco a few weeks back. The real test will be in a month or two when we look at Palo Duro Canyon State Park and perhaps Abilene SP or on up into the Durango, CO area.

The ducting helps with the noise, it does not eliminate it. I guess you could close the vents over the bed and perhaps force more air out in the rest of the trailer, but we just point the vents in that direction so their output is directed towards the main area. At night we spin them around towards the bed.
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Old 06-14-2017, 12:16 PM   #12
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23fb a/c

We just took delivery of a 2017 23FB with the standard 13,500 BTU unit. In the 4 days we were in NC summer 85+ with humidity it did great. In fact at night we turned it off and used the two Fantastic Fans. It actually got too cold in the middle of the night.

We like it cool and hitting 70 on the thermostat was not an issue. I like having the lower BTU unit as we intend to boondock and want to A/C with a generator.
Having the awning package allowed us to deploy on three sides and keep some of the sun off us during the day...also a help.
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Old 06-14-2017, 12:37 PM   #13
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We have the 2017 23FB International Signature

We also live in Texas and our 23FB cools down nicely, sometimes too cold at night. The ducting feature on the new models really helps with the noise factor, we do not have any noise issues.
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Hey all, I'm currently looking at buying a 19 international or a 23FB international. I'm concerned about the a/c strength on the 23. I live in Texas where the heat stays in the high 90 to 100 degrees all summer. I noticed the 23 has the same size air conditioner as the 19. Do you guys think that will be an issue on the 23?? The dealer had a 19 setup outside the day I visited and the air conditioner didn't turn off the whole time I was there. Granted people were going in and out of it some. Just worried in the 23 that the a/c may be overloaded in our summers? Would really appreciate any southerners experience with this that might have a 23 with the same a/c setup. Thanks in advance!



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I have a 23fb with the 1300 but not ducted ac. It is robust enough in 90 degree heat with a few caveats.
Shade makes a huge difference especially in the bedroom area. If you put your hand on the ceiling in full sun it is very warm.
The air distribution cools the dinette/kitchen/bath just fine but little air is directed toward the front where it is needed most.
We put a fan in the dinette area directed toward the bedroom and this helps a lot. Also fashioned a shelf over dinette to put fan on.
I am adding about 20 square feet of solar panels primarily over the bedroom area and I expect the resulting shade on the roof to help keep things cooler.
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