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11-01-2015, 01:29 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 22' FB Sport
2003 19' Bambi
Port Townsend
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 279
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22-Footers
We just got a new (to me) 2012 22FB, after a long shopping and studying phase.**I was looking at 20, 22, and 23 footers. Now that we have the 22, I've got lots of plans for enhancements, and I'm jealous of the "20-footers" thread, so thought I would start one!
And I've got a question to start things off.**This is crazy maybe, but I can't figure out how to make the dinette table I to a bed. The manual says lift it off the pedestal, but I can't get it to budge!
Maybe this isn't the stock table?
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11-01-2015, 01:44 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Congratulations!
I almost went for this model, but ended up with a FC20, as you may know already from the thread you linked. Patrick from Colonial AS, who was very helpful with my search for an RV/trailer for years, shows how to lower the dinette table of a newer model in the following video. Maybe your table is different, as your photo does not seem to anticipate Patrick's moves?
Go to time stamp 17:15 for the demo. I have to grant you that the spring loaded pressure which requires that you push down on the table is not at all intuitive. Edit -- I have a feeling your table may be different? If so, there may be an old video available online.
Good luck with the new coach!
Peter
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11-01-2015, 01:56 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 22' FB Sport
Barrie
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 37
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The manual is out of date as per usual. The new version had those two locks.
Open the both, push the table down then lock the two locks.
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11-01-2015, 05:03 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 22' FB Sport
2003 19' Bambi
Port Townsend
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 279
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lhunter59
The manual is out of date as per usual. The new version had those two locks.
Open the both, push the table down then lock the two locks.
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Geez, so easy.
ThanksI
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11-01-2015, 05:16 PM
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#5
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4 Rivet Member
2012 22' FB Sport
2003 19' Bambi
Port Townsend
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 279
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
Congratulations!
Go to time stamp 17:15 for the demo. I have to grant you that the spring loaded pressure which requires that you push down on the table is not at all intuitive. Edit -- I have a feeling your table may be different? If so, there may be an old video available online.
Good luck with the new coach!
Peter
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Thanks Peter! That's it exactly.
It took a lot of second and third guessing, but we finally went with the 22 over the 20 for two main reasons: the bigger bed, and I found a lightly used late model 22 for a fair price. It was between the bigger bed of the 22 and the great kitchen of the 20. I wish there was a combo of these two.
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11-01-2015, 05:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NWGetaways
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It was between the bigger bed of the 22 and the great kitchen of the 20. I wish there was a combo of these two.
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Ditto to that. Our corner galley is a hit with the missus, and it has the LP oven which we definitely wanted.
Happy Trails . . .
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11-01-2015, 05:52 PM
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#7
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4 Rivet Member
2012 22' FB Sport
2003 19' Bambi
Port Townsend
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 279
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I plan on replacing the microwave and two burner range top with a traditional propane stove. I also want to upgrade the sink and work on optimizing the storage, which is quite a bit tighter than my 19' Bambi.
Then more battery and solar.
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11-01-2015, 06:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Sounds good. I got some smaller Sterilite containers (to match OEM ones under our bed) with fixed flip top lids, many of which fit in each of the various larger overhead cabinets to organize the spaces. Not sure if you have similar cabinets over the bed, but I can work about a dozen of these into those two cabinets:
http://www.sterilite.com/SelectProdu...=249§ion=1
Real handy for smaller stuff which can be hard to reach over the bed. Or for heavier stuff under the dinette seats.
Amazon had a box of six for about $20 as I recall, plus lots of other sizes.
Edit -- see here:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f516...ml#post1698373
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11-02-2015, 11:06 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 22' FB Sport
2003 19' Bambi
Port Townsend
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 279
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Added a few things to enhance the functionality:
An IKEA magnetic strip to hold some kitchen utensils and spice jars.
Shampoo and soap dispensers for the bathroom.
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11-02-2015, 11:08 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 22' FB Sport
2003 19' Bambi
Port Townsend
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 279
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Now I'm eyeing this space. This would be a lot more useful with some shelves for kitchen stuff. I think the TV needs to go to the bedroom.
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11-02-2015, 11:36 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 22' FB Sport
2003 19' Bambi
Port Townsend
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 279
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I've also got my eye on this. Seems like a lot of wasted space, in the very limited kitchen storage.
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11-02-2015, 09:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Flying Cloud
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,969
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Curious how you mounted the Ikea magnetic strip on the galley wall?
We have a 22, and we keep most kitchen items below the sink. Please post detailed pictures once you finish organizing.
I have already (sadly) winterized and broken camp for the season, removing most items for storage at home. Otherwise I would post pictures.
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Piggy Bank
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11-02-2015, 09:44 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 22' Safari
Albuquerque
, New Mexico
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 374
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NWGetaways
Thanks Peter! That's it exactly.
It took a lot of second and third guessing, but we finally went with the 22 over the 20 for two main reasons: the bigger bed, and I found a lightly used late model 22 for a fair price. It was between the bigger bed of the 22 and the great kitchen of the 20. I wish there was a combo of these two.
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I am not sure what year units you are talking about... but my 22' Safari (2004) has a 'corner kitchen'; in fact it is larger than any other kitchen I have seen in any unit of comparable or even slightly larger size.
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11-03-2015, 09:00 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 22' FB Sport
2003 19' Bambi
Port Townsend
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 279
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Rossbach
I am not sure what year units you are talking about... but my 22' Safari (2004) has a 'corner kitchen'; in fact it is larger than any other kitchen I have seen in any unit of comparable or even slightly larger size.
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Is this the tandem axle 22'? We were referring to the Bambi Sport 22FB.
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11-03-2015, 09:01 AM
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#15
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4 Rivet Member
2012 22' FB Sport
2003 19' Bambi
Port Townsend
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 279
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Piggy Bank
Curious how you mounted the Ikea magnetic strip on the galley wall?
We have a 22, and we keep most kitchen items below the sink. Please post detailed pictures once you finish organizing.
I have already (sadly) winterized and broken camp for the season, removing most items for storage at home. Otherwise I would post pictures.
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It mounts with two screws. I used two sheet metal screws, right into the wall. (Ouch!).
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11-03-2015, 09:53 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NWGetaways
It mounts with two screws. I used two sheet metal screws, right into the wall. (Ouch!).
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Curious whether you put the screws, or at least one of them, into a vertical framing "rib" (I guess they might be called)? I assume that the interior metal paneling's rivets would lead the way to the framing locations . . .
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11-03-2015, 02:27 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 22' FB Sport
2003 19' Bambi
Port Townsend
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 279
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I didn't, I wanted it in a specific place so just screwed it in there. There's not a lot of weight it needs to support so it seems to work fine.
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11-03-2015, 02:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Thanks. You might want to remove all the items when you are on the road. The momentum of objects really increases their weight when bouncing up and down, especially the canisters which stick out a bit thereby creating a weighted lever twisting the base. A static down-load is one thing. Double or triple that load moving down, and you might flex the interior skin.
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11-03-2015, 08:03 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Flying Cloud
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,969
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NWGetaways
It mounts with two screws. I used two sheet metal screws, right into the wall. (Ouch!).
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Ouch indeed. That's not something I would consider myself.
Anyone have any opinions on command adhesive vs industrial velcro? I would like to maybe add a few things to walls, but I don't have the heart to use fasteners.
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Piggy Bank
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11-04-2015, 04:54 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 22' FB Sport
Barrie
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 37
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For stuff like that I use the 3M outdoor mounting tape. For all the other hooks etc I use 3M Command stuff.
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