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Old 08-16-2018, 05:10 PM   #1
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2019 Sport 16 - Weight and Carrying Capacity

Our new 2019 Sport 16 arrived, and I went to look at it today. I took photos to review when I got home, and I have some concerns about the weights and carrying capacity. The Gross Vehicle Weight Rating on the sticker is 3,500 pounds and matches expectations. However, the manufactured weight is 3,072 pounds, and the carrying capacity is only 428 pounds. This is well below the advertised base weight of 2,860 pounds and carrying capacity of 640 pounds. Has anyone else seen similar numbers? If this is correct, I've lost over 200 pounds of carrying capacity!

I should also note that I added a factory installed solar panel but I can’t believe it weighs that much.
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Our new 2019 Sport 16 arrived, and I went to look at it today. I took photos to review when I got home, and I have some concerns about the weights and carrying capacity. The Gross Vehicle Weight Rating on the sticker is 3,500 pounds and matches expectations. However, the manufactured weight is 3,072 pounds, and the carrying capacity is only 428 pounds. This is well below the advertised base weight of 2,860 pounds and carrying capacity of 640 pounds. Has anyone else seen similar numbers? If this is correct, I've lost over 200 pounds of carrying capacity!

I should also note that I added a factory installed solar panel but I can’t believe it weighs that much.
Does the "advertised" base weight include the battery or propane tanks?
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2019 Sport 16 - Weight and Carrying Capacity

Fill the propane tanks and fresh water tank and then get the trailer weighed. Then load the trailer for a trip and weigh it again. 428 lbs is a lot of stuff to put inside a 16’.
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YEP...low CCC.

The numbers for some of the newer trailers have gotten better, but obviously not all.

Our 25 Classic is only 676lb.

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I will say that when I brought something like this up when Airstream redesigned the axle/tires for the Basecamp, the reply was that those numbers are for the axle and unlike a car, part of a trailers weight is always supported by the hitch, whether on the truck or on the ground, so it isn't all supported tires and axle and actually had more capacity than what is stated. Soooo... so long as your axle measured weight is 3500 or less your good

Edit: unless of course you read the first line of Robert's paperwork, then I'm back to no excuse for them switching to underrated tires for the remodel.
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I completely agree and noticed this as well. You have a 23 gal fresh tank. Fill that and travel with a few gallons black and grey and you're at 27 gallons of fluids. That's 225 lbs right there, leaving you 200 lbs left.

200 lbs is nothing.
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I will say that when I brought something like this up when Airstream redesigned the axle/tires for the Basecamp, the reply was that those numbers are for the axle and unlike a car, part of a trailers weight is always supported by the hitch, whether on the truck or on the ground, so it isn't all supported tires and axle and actually had more capacity than what is stated. Soooo... so long as your axle measured weight is 3500 or less your good
YEP...but if your GVWR is 7300lb and you have two 3500lb axles your already in the hole.
Our last CAT had the AS axle's at 7260, with a 'light' load.

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It is my understanding that the base weight includes the propane tanks and battery. I also thought that the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating is 3,500 pounds and that this is not the Gross Axel Weight Rating. I'm just not sure how they could misrepresent/estimate the carrying capacity by approximately 30%. I also calculated the remaining capacity with a full tank of water...
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I completely agree and noticed this as well. You have a 23 gal fresh tank. Fill that and travel with a few gallons black and grey and you're at 27 gallons of fluids. That's 225 lbs right there, leaving you 200 lbs left.

200 lbs is nothing.
Like Randy said, add about 300 lbs back for the tongue weight (378 tongue weight minus a guess of 78 going back to the axles with a WD hitch) and that gets you some room. It seems like pretty slim cargo capacity but personally I would not worry.


GVWR and GAWR are the same in thiis case. The bottom tag in your picture shows both.
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Like Randy said, add about 300 lbs back for the tongue weight (378 tongue weight minus a guess of 78 going back to the axles with a WD hitch) and that gets you some room. It seems like pretty slim cargo capacity but personally I would not worry.


GVWR and GAWR are the same in thiis case. The bottom tag in your picture shows both.
So you are assuming they set gvwr at the axle capacity and that the frame itself can tolerate more. A fair assumption but couldn't they just use a larger axle!?!?
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So you are assuming they set gvwr at the axle capacity and that the frame itself can tolerate more. A fair assumption but couldn't they just use a larger axle!?!?
For this I would say yes, if you look at where they go from single to dual axles, I don't think that and extra 1.5' feet of trailer frame warrants 2000lbs or more of GVWR increase. So wheels and bearings are where the numbers mostly come from.

Makes me think of the Ford commercial where they hang all trucks from the one frame, not from the wheels

Same thing as adding a tag axle to a class A or SRW vs duallys on an Interstate
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So you are assuming they set gvwr at the axle capacity and that the frame itself can tolerate more. A fair assumption but couldn't they just use a larger axle!?!?
It's the assumption I would make if it were my trailer. I believe the next axle is 5000 lb and maybe they thought that was overkill? Especially when the trailer was supposed to weigh 200 lbs less.


OP, you didn't get a rear bumper installed or front segment protectors?
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I am having the protectors and bumper installed on the trailer aftermarket (have been ordered), so they will also eat into the capacity (approximately 75 pounds). Airstream no longer does this at the factory. The parts are ordered separately, arrive at a different time, and are installed by the dealer. Therefore, the sticker does not take these items into account. I'm still amazed at a 30%% difference when Airstream is known for their high quality.
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Just spoke with a representative from Airstream. They are saying that the manufactured weight of each trailer will vary (which I understand), even up to the 30% in this case. The representative did check and confirmed that the Gross Axel Weight Rating is 3,500 pounds, so I think the assumptions by everyone here are spot on. He did caveat and say for safety they recommend the 3,500 GVWR to determine carrying capacity.
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