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Old 02-25-2017, 10:29 AM   #21
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That looks really good.

Can you share or maybe shoot a picture of how much clearance there is for an adult to scoot past the dinette bed with it all in place? I would assume that this would be about at the knee level.

And please what was your design intention in having the extension be smaller on one end? Is it to be able to open the refrigerator, or to have space to stand when passing to the door or restroom?

Thanks,
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Old 02-25-2017, 04:05 PM   #22
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Stowed under the cushion, you can't see it but it does create a slight bump in the middle of the seat cushion. Stowed against the wall, it looks as attached.

Piggy Bank - the cutout is for clearance to pass at the refrigerator. It sticks out quite a bit so I had to taper there. I'm happy with the way it turned out.

The photo I attached upthread with the bolster in place is the clearance. It is about 10" of space at the knee.


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Old 02-26-2017, 09:31 AM   #23
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Thanks so much.

After our failure to have space for 4 to sleep on a trip last year, we might consider this if any future trips will have both adult kids along.

(they have a tent, but sometimes you want more)
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I received the foam data from Airstream. They get all of their seat foams from Precision Fab Products. The 2017 Sport seat foam is:

5 Thick, 14545 CFR

It doesn't appear that PFP sells direct to consumer, at least not from their website. I'll reach out to them tomorrow and find out. At a minimum, I can hopefully get foam density information and find something to match.

Piggy Bank - FWIW, my total cost on the modification was about $30 without the custom cushion. I'm assuming I'll pay about $30-50 to make the bottom cushion, but I think for something that's rarely used, you could just stuff the decorative throw pillows under a fitted sheet and have one of your kids' feet down at that end. It would be better than a tent, regardless.
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I received the foam data from Airstream. They get all of their seat foams from Precision Fab Products. The 2017 Sport seat foam is:



5 Thick, 14545 CFR



It doesn't appear that PFP sells direct to consumer, at least not from their website. I'll reach out to them tomorrow and find out. At a minimum, I can hopefully get foam density information and find something to match.



Piggy Bank - FWIW, my total cost on the modification was about $30 without the custom cushion. I'm assuming I'll pay about $30-50 to make the bottom cushion, but I think for something that's rarely used, you could just stuff the decorative throw pillows under a fitted sheet and have one of your kids' feet down at that end. It would be better than a tent, regardless.


Thanks. We appreciate you sharing the info. Im going to be starting this project shortly.
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I bought angled LED channels and put my LED light strip in them for above the kitchen storage. The milky lens really helps diffuse the light so that you don't get the "stripe" effect. It also angles the light appropriately into the space. Easy to cut, easy to install. Here's a photo with and without the lens to compare.
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Old 03-18-2017, 05:28 AM   #27
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I kind of like the stripes. Great idea either way.
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I bought angled LED channels and put my LED light strip in them for above the kitchen storage. The milky lens really helps diffuse the light so that you don't get the "stripe" effect. It also angles the light appropriately into the space. Easy to cut, easy to install. Here's a photo with and without the lens to compare.
very nice. how did you power the light?
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very nice. how did you power the light?
The radio cabinet (inside the rightmost storage space) has two screws on the front. I unscrewed those and the whole radio housing came free. Underneath, there is an extra set of USB ports which aren't available at the front of the cabinet. I removed the extra USB port hardware from the cable and used that "always on" cable to power my LED lights. LED strips often come with cheap controllers with RF remotes, and I use those to control the strip.

I had to feed the wires behind the overhead cabinets, which was pretty simple. I just loosened the cabinet screws that go into the ceiling. They're located on an aluminum strip right above the radio cabinet.

Sorry I didn't take pictures. I can unscrew later and post if anyone wants to see.
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As anyone installed this tankless system in their sport 22BF
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f445...ml#post1924680
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Old 03-21-2017, 07:41 PM   #31
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The radio cabinet (inside the rightmost storage space) has two screws on the front. I unscrewed those and the whole radio housing came free. Underneath, there is an extra set of USB ports which aren't available at the front of the cabinet. I removed the extra USB port hardware from the cable and used that "always on" cable to power my LED lights. LED strips often come with cheap controllers with RF remotes, and I use those to control the strip.

I had to feed the wires behind the overhead cabinets, which was pretty simple. I just loosened the cabinet screws that go into the ceiling. They're located on an aluminum strip right above the radio cabinet.

Sorry I didn't take pictures. I can unscrew later and post if anyone wants to see.
Very good to know. Thanks for the info.
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The radio cabinet (inside the rightmost storage space) has two screws on the front. I unscrewed those and the whole radio housing came free. Underneath, there is an extra set of USB ports which aren't available at the front of the cabinet. I removed the extra USB port hardware from the cable and used that "always on" cable to power my LED lights. LED strips often come with cheap controllers with RF remotes, and I use those to control the strip.

I had to feed the wires behind the overhead cabinets, which was pretty simple. I just loosened the cabinet screws that go into the ceiling. They're located on an aluminum strip right above the radio cabinet.

Sorry I didn't take pictures. I can unscrew later and post if anyone wants to see.
Researching this a bit. They also sell a 5v LED strip that connects directly to a USB port. What are the differences between a 5v and a 12v? From what i read, 12v can extend further. But is the 12v brighter?
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Researching this a bit. They also sell a 5v LED strip that connects directly to a USB port. What are the differences between a 5v and a 12v? From what i read, 12v can extend further. But is the 12v brighter?
Any LED light strip can be powered from a 5V port if desired. The limitation is in the number of amps the USB port can supply. I don't know why you'd want to use the USB port instead of grabbing the free 12v pair that's in the radio cabinet. That way, you're not limited by the USB power spec (USB 2.0 ports are usually limited to 500mA). I thought it was very easy to find the red/black pair and splice them with cable connectors to my LED strip.
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I havent opened the radio cabinet yet but will definitely take a look. Appreciate your input.
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Any thoughts one what might be changing on the 22fb for the 2018 model?
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2017 Sport Definite Changes

Just parked a new LB (Long Bambi) in front of the shop. I know this sounds terrible but can't wait to rip him apart. I have a long list of mods planned; some simple, some complex. Some, the wife will threaten to have me committed.

Stand back!- here's my list in no order:

Tail light upgrade w reverse lights
Supplemental third LED brake light up high
Smaller table w wood veneer
Countertops in solid wood to match veneer?
Replace table lift with removable pedestal
Cabinets:.
- full drawer bank in closet
-small drawers beside bed
-bath medicine cabinet
- all drawers to use push to open slides
Power tongue jack
Wireless back up cam
Possibly disc brakes
Replace acrylic bulkhead next to sink with spice rack w wood veneer
Remove and discard curbside acrylic bulkhead
LED reading lamps on either side of bed curbside
Teak matt in shower
Wood veneer on tambors to match veneer?
Kitchen faucet replace w pull out spray
Mount Mac mini and Apple tv
Wifi extender
300w Solar on roof/150w ground suitcase on tilt legs w 2000w inverter & two 200 ah gel batteries
Rear bumper
Double step
Dexter axle lift kit
LED light under new double step
Build in Berkey filter?
Tie black and grey tanks together for bigger grey tank
Nature's Head CT
Fab passive coil type hw heater (2?) and connect to exterior shower for feed
Replace hw tank with tankless
Cut 18x5'6" hole in bath door for "glass"; cover with "modern" window film
*More storage in bathroom? Shelf over toilet?
*Maximize storage under dinette
*Maximize storage in kitchen-more drawers?
Rain sensor close ceiling fan?

Well, I better get busy
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Just parked a new LB (Long Bambi) in front of the shop. I know this sounds terrible but can't wait to rip him apart. I have a long list of mods planned; some simple, some complex. Some, the wife will threaten to have me committed.

Stand back!- here's my list in no order:

Tail light upgrade w reverse lights
Supplemental third LED brake light up high
Smaller table w wood veneer
Countertops in solid wood to match veneer?
Replace table lift with removable pedestal
Cabinets:.
- full drawer bank in closet
-small drawers beside bed
-bath medicine cabinet
- all drawers to use push to open slides
Power tongue jack
Wireless back up cam
Possibly disc brakes
Replace acrylic bulkhead next to sink with spice rack w wood veneer
Remove and discard curbside acrylic bulkhead
LED reading lamps on either side of bed curbside
Teak matt in shower
Wood veneer on tambors to match veneer?
Kitchen faucet replace w pull out spray
Mount Mac mini and Apple tv
Wifi extender
300w Solar on roof/150w ground suitcase on tilt legs w 2000w inverter & two 200 ah gel batteries
Rear bumper
Double step
Dexter axle lift kit
LED light under new double step
Build in Berkey filter?
Tie black and grey tanks together for bigger grey tank
Nature's Head CT
Fab passive coil type hw heater (2?) and connect to exterior shower for feed
Replace hw tank with tankless
Cut 18x5'6" hole in bath door for "glass"; cover with "modern" window film
*More storage in bathroom? Shelf over toilet?
*Maximize storage under dinette
*Maximize storage in kitchen-more drawers?
Rain sensor close ceiling fan?

Well, I better get busy
This sounds very familiar. Are you sure you're in California?
BTW, the black tank is above the floor, and the grey tank is below the floor. It could become very messy if you try to combine them. The top of the black tank is above the trap in the shower...
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This sounds very familiar. Are you sure you're in California?
BTW, the black tank is above the floor, and the grey tank is below the floor. It could become very messy if you try to combine them. The top of the black tank is above the trap in the shower...
I'm not sure I get the dig at California. I'm the OP and I'm from California as well.

Regarding @Silverlife, I love your style. For me, one of the fun things about the AS is being able to get my hands dirty taking things apart. Have a blast, my friend!
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I'm not sure I get the dig at California. I'm the OP and I'm from California as well.
My comment was directed at the person I quoted. No one else.
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My comment was directed at the person I quoted. No one else.


Fair enough. Sorry if I misinterpreted.
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