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Old 06-17-2018, 01:23 PM   #1
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2017 22FB table top

Okay, after following the forum for a while now, I see that it seems fairly universal for 22FB owners to hate the table. In my own case, after owning boats that the table would fit exactly where it needed to go to make a nice, level bed, I was quite surprised that this one does not.

But the reason for this post is about the metal clip and rails on the bottom side of the table, which allows it to move side to side. I can find no use for the clip and rails as it only locks in one place. Unlocked, the table moves back and forth but will not lock back in place in a new, and potentially, more useful position. Am I missing something? Thanks.
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:12 PM   #2
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Okay, after following the forum for a while now, I see that it seems fairly universal for 22FB owners to hate the table. In my own case, after owning boats that the table would fit exactly where it needed to go to make a nice, level bed, I was quite surprised that this one does not.

But the reason for this post is about the metal clip and rails on the bottom side of the table, which allows it to move side to side. I can find no use for the clip and rails as it only locks in one place. Unlocked, the table moves back and forth but will not lock back in place in a new, and potentially, more useful position. Am I missing something? Thanks.
I agree. Couldn't believe it has one locking position!
My skinny wife loves it though and prefers the "King and Queen" long table orientation while eating. I of course am completely uncomfortable and use it at about a 45° angle when sitting there. Lets face it, this trailer is a bachelor pad at best. We set up the Pahaque 12 x 12 screen room (we've gone though 3 of them already with the sun & Lk Superior winds), really couldn't survive up here in buggy MI without one.
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:45 PM   #3
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That sport 22FB table is enough to drive a full-sized guy crazy. I get table edge impression on my ample girth. We do turn it when both my skinny girl and I are at it. I would change it for the yacht table but we take the grandkids sometimes and it is essential to make the second bed.

I think the single lock position is a joke. Other than that we love our AS 22.
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Old 06-17-2018, 08:41 PM   #4
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i removed the moving part and used this boat style mount

no more leg in the way

the table now has much more movement and locks in any position
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Old 06-18-2018, 05:06 AM   #5
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i removed the moving part and used this boat style mount

no more leg in the way

the table now has much more movement and locks in any position
As I stated, that solution works fine and would be my choice EXCEPT you need the original table to make the bed for the grandkids. Also, removing the base of the original table leaves some really unsightly holes that seem to defy hiding or filling.

There is no ‘one size fits all’ solution for the problem.
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Old 06-18-2018, 05:36 AM   #6
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it is the original table
just different mounting H/W

if you still wanted the bed, just add pieces of wood on the three edge and just disconnect the under table h/w. Then the table would just rest of these

this would take less than 30 secs to do

the under table mount is not centered, thus the table can be positioned close or far as needed, with no tools
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Old 06-18-2018, 11:12 AM   #7
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I think that's a clever solution, especially if you could patch in a section of flooring. It looks like you could just make the seam end at the round edge of the seats. For those of you ordering your 22fb if you want to do that maybe they will leave the table unmounted for you.


I am rethinking this however. That pole is not in the way if the table is collapsed. I just ordered the Exped Megamat Duo medium which will fit one piece over the entire surface like a glove .



http://www.exped.com/usa/en/product-...duo-10-m-green


It is expensive but looks like it will do the job on it's own instead of serving as a cover to protect the AS cushions.


I'm thinking large lounge surface with the option of placing the perimeter cushions (or all of them or none of them) back on there. I won't know how this is going to work out until it arrives but if it's a dud I can always use that new pad in my Transit van. It's reverse side is gray so that might look better upside down who knows.


Will report with pictures in a week or so............
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Old 06-22-2018, 12:31 PM   #8
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Dining room to Living room.....
Ok. Very (very) pleased with this. Hard to describe how comfortable this is, and not so bad to look at. I contacted Exped about using the underside as our seating surface (a more neutral grey color) and they said the underside is actually a heavier denier so to be careful of what surface the intended seating side is set on. I happened to have two Thermarest camprest LE's from my motorcycle camping getup which were near perfect underlayment to protect the Exped from the irregular tabletop protrusion. The two camp pads conveniently bring the Exped up to the original seat height so the back cushion falls just under the bottom blind-stays.

Not sure how my wife will react when she sees this next month but is easily switched back in 5 minutes.
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nice

can you upload the design for the under the bed there so i can make and cut one also
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Old 06-22-2018, 01:53 PM   #10
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nice

can you upload the design for the under the bed there so i can make and cut one also
Hey thanks. No mods. Just remove all cushions, collapse the table all the way, put down a couple of camping pads to protect the MegaMat M, and then plop the Exped on top. For lounging replace all the backrest cushions. For sleeping though I think I want to equalize the surface under there. Pretty half-assed I must say....that tabletop not at equal height. I wonder if it could be done with bubble foil or maybe have to cut some Masonite filler panels to lay there. Here is a center console/armrest idea plus a photo of the underside.
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Old 06-22-2018, 02:50 PM   #11
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I need to restate which Exped model it is....... It’s the Exped MegaMat Duo 10 M. (medium Duo there is a bigger one)
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Old 06-24-2018, 10:23 AM   #12
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Sorry to keep hogging this thread folks. Given the uneven tabletop situation when deployed for the full cushion, and the fact that if I were to shim-up the surrounding surfaces the blind-stays would dig into the rear seat back, I started looking around for a tabletop that would push down flush. I found the perfect one at this UK teak shop. It is 29.5” long by 20” wide which will still accommodate the slider mech and alleviate some of the discomfort of the OEM table while sitting at it. And teak marine tables go with anything, definitely classing up the joint! I will post my results in a few weeks.

https://www.marineteak.co.uk/flat-te...tar-classic-37
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Old 06-27-2018, 11:08 AM   #13
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Making me jelly

D - you are killing it with these mods man!! Looking great!

We too are thinking of redoing the table to lay flat. I think I will build a "ledge" on the benches so the table I design and build will lay flat with the seating.

If I tackle this project in the woodshop I will post photos and specs.
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Sorry to keep hogging this thread folks. Given the uneven tabletop situation when deployed for the full cushion, and the fact that if I were to shim-up the surrounding surfaces the blind-stays would dig into the rear seat back, I started looking around for a tabletop that would push down flush. I found the perfect one at this UK teak shop. It is 29.5” long by 20” wide which will still accommodate the slider mech and alleviate some of the discomfort of the OEM table while sitting at it. And teak marine tables go with anything, definitely classing up the joint! I will post my results in a few weeks.

https://www.marineteak.co.uk/flat-te...tar-classic-37
Thanks for posting your ideas. I was thinking about a teak tabletop as well. I'm enjoying all the solutions posted here. Motivates me to fix the irritating problem with an elegant solution.

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Sorry to keep hogging this thread folks. Given the uneven tabletop situation when deployed for the full cushion, and the fact that if I were to shim-up the surrounding surfaces the blind-stays would dig into the rear seat back, I started looking around for a tabletop that would push down flush. I found the perfect one at this UK teak shop. It is 29.5” long by 20” wide which will still accommodate the slider mech and alleviate some of the discomfort of the OEM table while sitting at it. And teak marine tables go with anything, definitely classing up the joint! I will post my results in a few weeks.

https://www.marineteak.co.uk/flat-te...tar-classic-37
Great fit for all general activities. Pushes down flush with the exception of the 1/4” very helpful lip around the marine cabin intended table. My wife misses the prep space however.
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That looks fantastic.
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Old 07-06-2018, 07:31 PM   #17
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Y'all are making me feel like such a beast. I sleep on that bed sometimes when I travel with my parents (in their 70s) and give them the 'big bed' and I dont even notice the misfit tabletop. I was afraid I would, since when I collapsed it the first time it looked so janky. But with the stock cushions and a sheet I really can't even tell.

On the other hand, your upgrade is beeeautiful.
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I sleep better in our AS than in our cal king at home lately. Even on the front bed when my 70’s mother in law joined us recently. We gave her the rear bed. We all had a great time.
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Those of you sleeping well in your AS, is that with a factory mattress? I’m trying to find a good mattress option for our 22FB, our 2011 mattress is a horrendous. We added 4” foam topper to get it remotely tolerable, but it still is lacking.

Are the new factory mattresses good? Or go with a custom one elsewhere?
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Those of you sleeping well in your AS, is that with a factory mattress? I’m trying to find a good mattress option for our 22FB, our 2011 mattress is a horrendous. We added 4” foam topper to get it remotely tolerable, but it still is lacking.

Are the new factory mattresses good? Or go with a custom one elsewhere?
Thanks for the kind words folks! Yes the new mattress is a dream (laying on it right now). Really hard to keep the sheets on it and generally to keep the bed made. A friend suggested “spider straps” which stretch out on the underside of the mattress to hold it all together.
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