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Old 04-18-2018, 02:20 PM   #43
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WRONG warranty

make a better trailer with more safety and a warranty would be void

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Old 04-19-2018, 04:36 AM   #44
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The salesman, of course. Thank you I'll take this information with me.
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Old 04-19-2018, 05:11 AM   #45
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Interesting fact for you. We have hundreds of customers with sports. We have installed 2 bumper kits. Yet we have never repaired body damage on the rear of a sport. Yet we repair the back ends of Airstreams with bumpers all the time. Maybe the bumper is a false sense of protection? The bumper doesn’t stop much.
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:58 AM   #46
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Interesting fact for you. We have hundreds of customers with sports. We have installed 2 bumper kits. Yet we have never repaired body damage on the rear of a sport. Yet we repair the back ends of Airstreams with bumpers all the time. Maybe the bumper is a false sense of protection? The bumper doesn’t stop much.
How is that comment supported if you've never repaired the back end of a Sport? (bumper-equipped or not?)

The rear bumper on a Sport is not just (admittedly only slightly-so) protective, ...it's also a very handy and much-needed storage area.
It's also over-priced...which may be one reason you haven't sold/installed very many. (But proves it's a Genuine Airstream part.)
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Old 04-23-2018, 05:54 PM   #47
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bumper seen in AS electrical drawings

i made a book with all the drawings i got from AS.

the electrical section clearly shows a bumper on the as22FB.
this drawing has a date from 2008, 10 years ago
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Old 09-17-2018, 04:27 AM   #48
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We had AS install bumper on our 2018 22Sport. Love the extra storage for 30 amp cord.
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We store our power cord and surge protector. The lift assist works just fine for us. Still have room for emergency triangles.
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Old 01-24-2019, 08:46 AM   #50
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Oh, man, I hate to weigh back in here, but--

--here goes.



First, the FTC announcement was not really on this particular issue. The FTC announcement was about the issue of whether a manufacturer can force you to use OEM by threatening that anything else voids your warranty. The answer is and has been for years: NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. That's not really a change, but the FTC has to repeat this ... repeatedly ... to get manufacturers to understand that the rule applies to them. [If you imagine me ranting for 15 minutes here about "new technologies" wrongly believing that the "old" rules don't apply to them, you'll save us both time.] But that's not the issue, actually.



Second: it's is pretty standard for manufacturers to void warranties when people re-engineer their products. Imagine that Southwest decided that the Boeing 737 would be better as a biplane and added another set of wings. If the airframe failed, Boeing would be right to argue that an alteration of a critical component would avoid any liability. As the previous poster said, it's ridiculous to say that a Non-OEM bumper will void the refrigerator warranty. But anything that could be affected by the new bumper on an Airstream--water infiltration into the cabin, rust on bumper-adjoining parts, wear and tear on the rear frame, etc.--the manufacturer could legitimately claim that the unauthorized addition caused this problem. I'm extremely consumer friendly, but I'd find that a pretty good argument, depending on the circumstances. (Someone said that the dealer added equipment so that can't void the warranty. Au contraire. The dealer would be liable for any damage they caused, but the manufacturer would still legitimately argue that the addition was unauthorized and any warranty relating to the damage was void.)



Third: The poster who said "make a better product you wouldn't need a warranty ... " This makes common-sense sense, but it's not actually the way economics (or law) works. Nor would you want it to if you'll think about it. The warranty is an assurance to the buyer that the manufacturer stands behind their product, in case it's not as perfect as they meant it to be when they designed it. That way, if as a buyer, I get bit by the nothing's-perfect or the it-came-off-the-assembly-line-on-a-Friday-night bug, then they'll make me whole. G-d help us if manufacturers ever start saying, "It's perfect so you don't need a warranty." It has the virtue of almost making sense, but a whole lot of consumers are going to get badly hurt when they find out that the economic realities of the market will mean that quality will get worse when manufacturers don't have to stand behind their products. The internet and all those no-customer-service and no-contact-number companies are a perfect object lesson in this. [Here let me stop and let you imagine a 15 hour history-based lecture about moral hazard and the patently wrong argument that the free market drives improved quality without the need for regulatory intervention ... and apply that saved 15 hours to the first leg of a trip towing your AS away for the weekend.]
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Old 03-24-2019, 07:23 PM   #51
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Bumper Installation Question

Question to those who have installed or had installed the bumper on the 22FB Sport.

Do the bolts that secure the rail extensions to the existing frame go through the galvanized skin at the rear of the trailer, OR is the skin removed, the bolts placed, and the skin re-riveted in place?

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I have a 2016 Bambi sport 16’.. Had the bumper installed at the dealer who cut holes for the supports to go thru, and then caulked the space around the cut.. A small tap on the bumper is far better than hitting the body.. It’s not the strongest bumper, but it’s a little protection from hitting.. Extra storage as well.. It’s worth it...,
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Old 03-26-2019, 07:09 PM   #53
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this is our 22FB bumper install from last year

the bumber is not that hard to install

the lid is a different story. i had to make a custom hole to get a locking lid as we keep our elec chords in it now
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