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07-25-2016, 08:06 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 16' Sport
Tucson
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 40
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2016 16' Bambi Power (rant)
Love love my AS, but I have one (Major) gripe.... I don't want to come across as bitter, or that I don't like my AS I do.. It was just found out on my maiden voyage and well.. LOL
I don't know what AS was thinking by no longer putting in the 12v cigarette lighter plugs in, but they have totally omitted any way from the inside of the camper from possibly connecting anything 12v without paying the dealer to install something aftermarket. I don't know who the engineer was that came up with this bright idea but it was stupid. I like to camp and enjoy the outdoors, so I have 12v devices. I don't want to spend my time in an park for hookups. If it was a cost saving decision they should rethink it. Friends that have a new $12,000 fiberglass box have them ..
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07-25-2016, 08:24 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 16' Sport
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by avionstream
Buy a plug in inverter?
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Exactly, there is no plug to plug such inverter in ;-) That is the point of my post
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07-25-2016, 08:28 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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I deleted my post. Google 120 to 12 volt converter and you will find a plug into 120 to 12 volt cigarette lighter type device. I use my 12 volt stuff all the time with one of these.
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07-25-2016, 08:41 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2015 19' Flying Cloud
Ashland
, Kentucky
Join Date: Feb 2015
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You could just buy one of these 120/12v USB outlets. Easy install but you will have to spend the $30.
https://www.amazon.com/High-Speed-Do...wukcrew4uco-20
Doing this allows you to keep an outlet and have 2 USB all built in.
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07-25-2016, 08:41 AM
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2017 25' International
Niagara-on-the-Lake
, ON Canada
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,836
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Quote:
Originally Posted by avionstream
I deleted my post. Google 120 to 12 volt converter and you will find a plug into 120 to 12 volt cigarette lighter type device. I use my 12 volt stuff all the time with one of these.
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Unfortunately this solution won't work when boon docking with no access to 120 AC power (shore power or generator.) I agree with the OP and will be replacing one of the USB outlets with a regular 12v outlet.
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07-25-2016, 08:55 AM
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Full time Airstreamer
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Anywhere
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Join Date: Jan 2014
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I'm guessing you can tap off a 12v source, such as the propane detector or a light fixture?
Stinks, I agree. But not too difficult and certainly could have been done easily at the factory.
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07-25-2016, 08:55 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
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The op didn't say he was boondocking. My solution works.
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07-25-2016, 08:58 AM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Yeah, they should have the 12 outlets. That is how I run my CPAP when not on shore power. Plus we use a Fantastic 12 volt portable fan sometimes. Plus I have a battery monitor plugged into one outlet. I can not imagine doing without them. It will be extremely difficult to instal the 12 volt round style oulets and that might be one reason they quit. The outlets just do not fit in the thickness of the Airstream walls. I had to replace the one that my CPAP fits into and it was a difficult job and required modifications on what I could buy at Radio Shack at the time.
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07-25-2016, 09:10 AM
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Full time Airstreamer
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Anywhere
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Join Date: Jan 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill M.
Yeah, they should have the 12 outlets. That is how I run my CPAP when not on shore power. Plus we use a Fantastic 12 volt portable fan sometimes. Plus I have a battery monitor plugged into one outlet. I can not imagine doing without them. It will be extremely difficult to instal the 12 volt round style oulets and that might be one reason they quit. The outlets just do not fit in the thickness of the Airstream walls. I had to replace the one that my CPAP fits into and it was a difficult job and required modifications on what I could buy at Radio Shack at the time.
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I was thinking they could be installed on a wood surface, definitely not the aluminum wall.
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07-25-2016, 09:29 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 16' Sport
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by avionstream
The op didn't say he was boondocking. My solution works.
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Sorry, yes, I only boondock, far away from people.. Camping is my getaway...
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07-25-2016, 09:34 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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I agree with you Mario. Our 90's AS had a few 12v outlets.
Stupid cost savings IMO.
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07-25-2016, 10:36 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2019 23' International
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 457
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could not agree more. wanted to top up the tires this weekend with my 12v mini compressor. cord would not reach from the lighter plug in the rear of the Yukon :-(
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07-25-2016, 10:54 AM
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GLCMRANGER - Sue
2016 25' International
Littlestown
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 330
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Buy Blue Sea Systems products. They're meant to be rugged and water proof. I just put these in my 2016 Signature.
Both products found on Amazon.com.
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07-25-2016, 11:05 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 20' Flying Cloud
Eau Claire
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 113
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12v Fix
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarioM
Love love my AS, but I have one (Major) gripe.... I don't want to come across as bitter, or that I don't like my AS I do.. It was just found out on my maiden voyage and well.. LOL
I don't know what AS was thinking by no longer putting in the 12v cigarette lighter plugs in, but they have totally omitted any way from the inside of the camper from possibly connecting anything 12v without paying the dealer to install something aftermarket. I don't know who the engineer was that came up with this bright idea but it was stupid. I like to camp and enjoy the outdoors, so I have 12v devices. I don't want to spend my time in an park for hookups. If it was a cost saving decision they should rethink it. Friends that have a new $12,000 fiberglass box have them ..
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I had the same problem. My fix was to order an exact replacement for the TV plug in with a cigarette lighter adapter with 12v. It looks good and works perfect. Still have the AC with shore power and the TV amp light. Took about 5 minutes to put it in. Joe
Winegard RV-7042 White Wall Plate Power Supply
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07-25-2016, 11:11 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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Can the Sport single lead acid battery support the factory 12 vdc systems, plus a bunch of 12 vdc devices while boondocking more than overnight? I don't think so, the engineers have it right.
If you like to boondock you most probably need a generator or solar system and built-in inverter, in which case there is little need for 12 vdc outlets.
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07-25-2016, 12:33 PM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
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Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,463
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarioM
Love love my AS, but I have one (Major) gripe.... I don't want to come across as bitter, or that I don't like my AS I do.. It was just found out on my maiden voyage and well.. LOL
I don't know what AS was thinking by no longer putting in the 12v cigarette lighter plugs in, but they have totally omitted any way from the inside of the camper from possibly connecting anything 12v without paying the dealer to install something aftermarket. I don't know who the engineer was that came up with this bright idea but it was stupid. I like to camp and enjoy the outdoors, so I have 12v devices. I don't want to spend my time in an park for hookups. If it was a cost saving decision they should rethink it. Friends that have a new $12,000 fiberglass box have them ..
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I want to apologize in advance, however I find this indicative of the times.
You like to camp and enjoy the outdoors, however you're upset that you can't stay in the trailer using your 12 volt devices???
Get one of these, plug it into your tow vehicle's power outlet and sit in the outdoors and enjoy your electronic devices.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...20power%20cord
Ken
P.S. You definitely need some sort of generator or solar system.
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07-25-2016, 12:39 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ag&Au
I want to apologize in advance, however I find this indicative of the times.
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???
Plenty of 12-volt appliances from the boating world would work great inside the AS, like a tea kettle to boil water, a little mini-oven to heat things up, immersion heaters for a cup of tea, and so forth.
Perhaps the OP already has such devices, and simply wants some continuity . . . ?
Then there is the tone . . .
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07-25-2016, 12:51 PM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
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Join Date: May 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
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Plenty of 12-volt appliances from the boating world would work great inside the AS, like a tea kettle to boil water, a little mini-oven to heat things up, immersion heaters for a cup of tea, and so forth.
Perhaps the OP already has such devices, and simply wants some continuity . . . ?
Then there is the tone . . .
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All right, I apologize to you also.
My point is camping is about being outside. Any vehicle I've been around lately has a 12 volt power outlet. Your cup of tea could be brewed outside with the type of cord I posted the link to. Another plus. If car battery starts to get low. Drive it around a bit and charge it back up.
Are you a certified tone interpreter?
Ken
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07-25-2016, 12:53 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 19' Safari SE
Tucson
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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I have noticed in newer rigs that there is no 12v plug...kinda strange, IMHO. Fortunately our rig is old enough (2006) to still have them...there are two...one in the forward overhead cabinet by the DVD payer and one in the bed area. We use them both and would really miss having them. The other side of thet coin is that our rig is JUST old enough to not have USB ports...so we use a 12v in the round hole 12v plug to get USB ports for charging, etc. But Hey! We Hey ... DO have a telephone jack! (I think that was eliminated the year after ours.) I guess it is the price of "progress"...
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07-25-2016, 01:22 PM
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begorragirl
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Denville
, New Jersey
Join Date: Oct 2012
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I used a lot of 12v items with my T@B. First I added second battery, then just got a really long 12v cord with three holes in it, plugged into TV, used in T@B. I got it at a truck stop type shop. You migbt want to consider that as i expensive fix.
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