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Old 03-26-2014, 03:02 PM   #71
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To be fair, JackDog going from the Liberty (which doesn't really handle that well and has a lump of an engine) to the Grand Cherokee (handles better, and the V6/8spd combo is very, very good at towing) seems to be a solid move forward.

I was very, very impressed at how well a 2014 GC V6 towed my 23' trailer. Not as fun as the Hemi/8spd or the EcoDiesel, both effortless towers, but very capable all the same.

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Hi Mutcth,

You seem to know what you are talking about, and I confess I am a total newbie!

I have a 2014 Grand Cherokee with the 5.7L V8. and will be towing a Bambi 19.

Got myself a Prodigy P2 Brake controller.... trying to sift these forums and figure out if I need a weight distribution hitch and/or sway controll. Any comments on the hitch setup or will I be ok if I measure squat on the Jeep and load the trailer as such to minimize that... Any help will be much appreciated, there are such mixed comments with hitch setup but I would be interested to hear from a Grand Cherokee owner.
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Old 04-16-2014, 11:20 PM   #72
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We would like to share our experience here;

Some background: We have 2012 BMW X5 35i with petrol engine and 2011 Bambi sports 16. The X5 comes with OEM tow package rated 5000lbs with tow module which has anti sway feature, our X5 also has air suspension which also can level the vehicle automatically. We installed Prodigy p2 break controller. The Bambi comes with EZ WD and anti sway bar;

We also got confused regarding the WD and the advise comes with BMW about no WD, so we did some experiment.

For the first a few trip, we played safe with WD and anti sway bar on, then a few more trips, we didn't use anti-sway bar, then no WD ....

I would say the X5 drive strangely with WD on, it seems the whole car was fighting with airstream somehow when make turns or through small bumps. And anti sway bar makes the back up so much difficult;

So we took the advise from the car manual and didn't put WD; Since then, we have been through twisted mountain roads, long climbing Rocky mountains in Canada, rain storms, windy weather, winter ski trip on ice and snow etc.

BMW did very good job on towing, the whole setup is near perfect. Most of time, we forgot we were towing. WITHOUT WD and anti sway bar, we have never noticed any sway, there is a few times the sway icon on dash board flashed a few times in a very twisted road when we might drive too fast, but X5 corrected it automatically and we didn't notice it at all. The air suspension can also level the car properly, so WD is really not necessary.

One of our neighbor has old pickup towing a very light popup trailer, he got roll over one day by fish tailing due to the cross wind. His car has aftermarket tow installed and don't have sway control built in.

I think in now days, the car manufacture puts more sophisticated tech into towing, the modem electric system can play a critical role here. I would suggest to take advise from car manufacture and check what features of the towing package in your car.
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Old 04-16-2014, 11:55 PM   #73
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miamipanther writes

"The air suspension can also level the car properly, so WD is really not necessary."

We have to be careful with this advice, that it is not taken out of context of your large, stable, and capable tow vehicle pulling a tiny Airstream. A weight distribution hitch distributes trailer tongue weight and rear load of the tow vehicle among the truck and trailer axles. Air suspension levels the vehicle but does not distribute significant weight.

Almost any Airstream will benefit from using a w.d. hitch with sway control, and most would be dangerous without it.
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Old 04-17-2014, 05:33 PM   #74
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miamipanther writes

"The air suspension can also level the car properly, so WD is really not necessary."

We have to be careful with this advice, that it is not taken out of context of your large, stable, and capable tow vehicle pulling a tiny Airstream. A weight distribution hitch distributes trailer tongue weight and rear load of the tow vehicle among the truck and trailer axles. Air suspension levels the vehicle but does not distribute significant weight.

Almost any Airstream will benefit from using a w.d. hitch with sway control, and most would be dangerous without it.
I should be clearer in my original post. WD does two things: 1, Level the rear; 2: Shift some tongue weight to the front axle of the tow vehicle using the tension. Air suspension certainly serve the first purpose, but although it can help second purpose by leveling, but certainly is not the placement for WD. Another reason just like you said is that the Bambi is so light, the tongue weight is well under the spec of our TV, WD may not play crucial role as in other heavier trailer for us.

There is other concerns about WD may interference how the system(like breaking/anti sway/air suspension etc) works in the TV, but those are not confirmed.

For us, X5 drive better without WD.

BTW, we found that setting the break controller properly helps a lot in breaking, and it also can help sway control
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I should be clearer in my original post. WD does two things: 1, Level the rear; 2: Shift some tongue weight to the front axle of the tow vehicle using the tension. Air suspension certainly serve the first purpose, but although it can help second purpose by leveling, but certainly is not the placement for WD. Another reason just like you said is that the Bambi is so light, the tongue weight is well under the spec of our TV, WD may not play crucial role as in other heavier trailer for us.

There is other concerns about WD may interference how the system(like breaking/anti sway/air suspension etc) works in the TV, but those are not confirmed.

For us, X5 drive better without WD.

BTW, we found that setting the break controller properly helps a lot in breaking, and it also can help sway control
Great info about towing with your BMW. I have been shopping for a used X5 to tow my 17 foot Caravel. We own a 08 BMW 530xi with 3.0. I was thinking about using it for towing but I have not been unable to find a hitch rated for more than 2000 lbs. for the 530. I want a older 07-08 X5 because I really like the 3.0 eng. My BMW service rep. said it is the best eng BMW ever made. I have been towing my AS with a 09 Grand Caravan without WD. The only thing I have done to the van is upgraded tires. I too have had no issues towing without the WD. Thanks again for your post.

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