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Old 02-02-2010, 06:00 AM   #197
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Whew - thanks for the encouragement folks. I tossed and turned all night - I hate that I was soooooooooo wrong. After 11 trips to KARS, I finally see more than 15 trailers. I'm on my way to the park now - to check things out and try to squeeze more info from the girl at the Country Store. Hope to post an update for you all around 10:00-ish.
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:02 AM   #198
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Update #693

Okay, here's the scoop... there are about 18 sites with power/water still open. 11 at the South area, 1 riverfront, 6 at the North (2 of these being almost useless due to location of utility pole). It doesn't look like there are that many sites because of the way some of the RVs are already parked. (The sites are rather close together.) What I didn't realize is that many are actually pull-throughs, with fields on each side of the utility poles (especially in the South area). So, you could actually pull through the entire site, and use the opposite side of the utility pole --- that would give you & your neighbor more room.

Because of the way others are already parked, it's going to take some creative parking our your/our part to access the utilities. Whoever has extensions, please bring them!!!

I pressed the Country Store girl about opening dry camping. She said they wll not allow that until ALL the powered sites are occupied. Even necessitating the creative parking I mentioned. She was unenthused with my questioning but I explained that some folks were planning to travel from across the country and I'd tell them to forget it if they possibly wouldn't have an opportunity to camp at KARS - especially since all the other area campgrounds are already filled and the campers wouldn't have anyplace to go. Her final words were "we won't turn anyone away". There you have it!

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To avoid difficulty, this is how I'd like to handle "Guest Of" question that you'll be asked on entry/check-in at Country Store:
~ if you arrive on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday --- list Lyle & Margie Van Gessel *
~ if you arrive on Friday or Saturday --- list Laura Funk
* if you know or are with someone else that is gaining membership, please use them instead!! Just to reduce any suspicion and possible snags. I've found that some of the guards at KSC take pleasure in being difficult.

landmark for Hall Road/KARS - the intersection of SR-3/Hall is marked by a stoplight, a sign for KSC Recreation Area on the northeast corner and a Circle K convenience store on the southwest corner.

Hall Road is a long 2-lane road, ending at the Banana River. About 3/4 the way down the road there is a sign that says "Road Closed 1000 feet". I have no idea what that means - that's about when the road ends at the river though

Once you enter KARS park, you will be stopped by a guard at the boat basin. New procedure: you will need to fill out a short form listing your name, name of member you are "Guest Of" (see above), or your membership number, and tag number (vehicle I presume, it isn't clear), and a few other simple questions.

KARS Park is not actually on the Kennedy Space Center. It is a NASA owned facility, about 5 miles south of the Space Center. It takes a person pretty high up the ladder to get a non-employee on the Center! That would not be me.

It is not the best view possible. If you want a better, unobstructed view, I suggest you head to west to highway US-1 and then head north. Just about anywhere along US-1 is a good view. I can give you better locations at the Rally. There are a number of parks, parking lots and fields in Titusville that provide a nice view (in addition to the SR-406 causeway). For a night launch though, you're not going to see much until it actually *lights* - then the view is essentially the same at KARS! You'll see the Shuttle through the trees just a few seconds after it clears the launch pad.

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Old 02-02-2010, 11:13 AM   #199
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Just need a spot to land this thing

Just as long as they let us in on Friday and a place to put this 36ft thing we will be ok. Is everybody who owns a recreational vehicle in the United States of America either going or already in Florida this weekend? There is nothing open anywhere. Super Bowl, Daytona Week, Disneyites, and Launch people all seem to be heading that way.
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Old 02-02-2010, 03:50 PM   #200
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Just as long as they let us in on Friday and a place to put this 36ft thing we will be ok. Is everybody who owns a recreational vehicle in the United States of America either going or already in Florida this weekend? There is nothing open anywhere. Super Bowl, Daytona Week, Disneyites, and Launch people all seem to be heading that way.
I don't think they have spots for 36' - only 34' and 38' spots left. Can you take a couple feet off, or borrow a couple from a neighbor? Seriously though, you gotta big one. Cant wait to see it! You shouldn't have any trouble in the south-bound areas - lots of land. A little wet right now, but has cleared up and is good for a couple days. I've never found it to be soft. I'm sure you could find a spot if you tried but, on the whole, it's pretty firm.

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Old 02-02-2010, 05:06 PM   #201
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It will be whatever length it needs to be if any of those spots are left. We also have a 12 ft clearance. I think Davefl is the other one with a AS motorhome based on profile pictures. See you all Friday morning.
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:30 PM   #202
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We are making a dish that is a big favorite on the planet Remulack(home of the Coneheads). It is hot lactate of hooved mammals with curved starch tubes.

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Old 02-02-2010, 06:39 PM   #203
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Getting the gray tank in is taking longer than it should (mechanical problems and a light bout of the flu) and I may be a day late getting out of dry dock, but I'm going to be there baring further disaster.
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Old 02-02-2010, 08:03 PM   #204
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Just as long as they let us in on Friday and a place to put this 36ft thing we will be ok. Is everybody who owns a recreational vehicle in the United States of America either going or already in Florida this weekend? There is nothing open anywhere. Super Bowl, Daytona Week, Disneyites, and Launch people all seem to be heading that way.

Not to mention the Whole south East region of the FMCIA is also in the state and there are a bunch of them too!!
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:00 PM   #205
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We are definitely on track to dock midday Friday, with our trojectory in place we will arrive in a caravan from the west coast. Keep your eyes to the west for here we come, we will be a sight to behold.

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Old 02-03-2010, 06:22 AM   #206
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We are on schedule for departure this afternoon, and set to enter geostationary position on Friday afternoon. See you all then.
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STS-130 Crew at Kennedy, Launch Preps in Full Swing

Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:11:03 AM CST


On Launch Pad 39A at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida, pressurization of the gaseous nitrogen and helium tanks on space shuttle Endeavour were completed overnight. Teams also are preparing the pad for the start of launch countdown that begins 2 a.m. EST Thursday.

The six STS-130 mission astronauts arrived at Kennedy's Shuttle Landing Facility at about 10:10 p.m. last night. After settling into their crew quarters in the Operations and Checkout Building, they worked through the night reviewing data and equipment, including procedures to replace the ammonia lines that will be used to cool the Tranquility node. The crew now is on a sleep schedule to match their evening and overnight work hours during the mission.

A prelaunch countdown briefing will be held this morning at 10 a.m. EST and aired on NASA TV at NASA - NASA TV. The participants will be NASA Test Director Jeremy Graeber, STS-130 Payload Manager Joe Delai and Shuttle Weather Officer Kathy Winters.

In Long Beach, MS final preparations are underway for an early morning launch.
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:33 AM   #208
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Florida bound!!!

We left snow in Nashville yesterday mid-day and overnighted south of Atlanta at Cracker Barrel -- a little too close to the interstate for restful sleeping --but where things are warming up a bit this a.m. Our plans are to de-winterize later today (in warmer climes) and hopefully have a more restful night tonight. We plan on arriving at KARS on Thursday so will check in according to instructions.

Can't wait!

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Florida bound!!!

We left snow in Nashville yesterday mid-day and overnighted south of Atlanta at Cracker Barrel -- a little too close to the interstate for restful sleeping --but where things are warming up a bit this a.m. Our plans are to de-winterize later today (in warmer climes) and hopefully have a more restful night tonight. We plan on arriving at KARS on Thursday so will check in according to instructions.

Can't wait!

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Is Cracker Barrel a good overnight spot? I have heard Wal-Mart, Camping World, or Flying J. Being new to this, we were looking at those options. Any suggestions?
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Cracker Barrel

We have used Cracker Barrel on several occasions and were very pleased. Went to the CB website and found locations with RV parking, went to google sat. to view the site and then called the manager to advise of our plans. We usually arrive for a late dinner, then wake early for breakfast and on our way. The managers seem to be very appreciative of the heads up phone call and will usually tell you the best way to park in their lots.
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