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Old 07-12-2011, 08:22 PM   #15
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Hi Frank and Bash planners for 2012:

This is the conservationist / environmentalist side of me speaking.

Taking power from "the grid" is far more efficient and less "carbon footprint" than running generators. I am assuming that after attending this year's Bash (2011) that we will be on the other side of the lake next year since you are talking of no elec.??? If there is any way to hook up those in need (medical) at night and pass around the "3-amp" connection via extension cord during the day to recharge everyone else, I would greatly suggest this. I will volunteer to be the electric czar if one is required. Less noise and less emissions...in my mind, always a better choice.
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Old 07-12-2011, 08:39 PM   #16
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What state is Coopers Lake located?
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Hi Frank and Bash planners for 2012:

This is the conservationist / environmentalist side of me speaking.

Taking power from "the grid" is far more efficient and less "carbon footprint" than running generators. I am assuming that after attending this year's Bash (2011) that we will be on the other side of the lake next year since you are talking of no elec.??? If there is any way to hook up those in need (medical) at night and pass around the "3-amp" connection via extension cord during the day to recharge everyone else, I would greatly suggest this. I will volunteer to be the electric czar if one is required. Less noise and less emissions...in my mind, always a better choice.
Jason, we are turning lemons into margaritas here....

I understand your concern. The first Bash had no hook ups and we did just fine. Most people that needed all night electric got together and shared the ultra quite type generators. It worked just fine. We plan to do the same with this one. The improvement we will make is to construct a room to muffle the noise. I imagine the ambient noise from I79 will be greater.
There is just no grid power. We are in negotiations already with a generator dealer to come out and show all of us how well their product works. Even if that does not pan out, we will make due.
We are Airstreamers and Airstreamers make it happen.
If someone wants to come that just cannot be liberated with boondocking, there will, as this past year, be full three point hook ups just up the hill.
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Frank,
What state is Coopers Lake located?
Cooper Lake is just North of Pittsburgh PA.

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Old 07-13-2011, 10:02 AM   #20
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Bash electic and Medical needs

I am assuming ( possibly incorrectly) most power required for “medical needs” would be to run a CPAP machine.

The link below will provide some info on the power required. It appears that many of the modern machines have 12 volt capability.

How to Camp with your CPAP on Battery Power

I recently had a friend with a 120 volt machine actually measure the current draw using a “Kill a watt” meter. The results were 28 watts on startup and a running load of 13 watts.
Allowing for inverter inefficiencies this would translate to about 1.25 amps at 12 volts or about 10 amp hours for an 8 hour night. Slightly less than running an 1141 auto bulb for the same time period. This is a relatively light load.
This means that you should be able to run a CPAP for multiple nights on a trailer battery, depending on what else you are using. Certainly there should be no need to run a generator at night if the CPAP is the only concern.
Charging can be done during the day. Of course there may be other needs that would require more power
I hope this info is helpful to some concerned about power availability at the Bash and has not strayed too far off topic
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Electric at this years Bash was a pleasant surprise, all we used it for was to run a fan to help cover some noise in the mornings...but only a jet engine could cover up Obie and his Mega phone...
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Nora and I really enjoyed the Bash II and the people we got to meet and to know, so....... we broke down and bought an Airstream! Next year's Bash III dates are already marked off on our calendar!
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This means that you should be able to run a CPAP for multiple nights on a trailer battery, depending on what else you are using. Certainly there should be no need to run a generator at night if the CPAP is the only concern.
Rick, you are correct for a bare cpap, but many folks use a heated humidifier attached to their cpap. These use an electric resistance heater which draws way to much for a normal RV battery to handle.
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Rick, you are correct for a bare cpap, but many folks use a heated humidifier attached to their cpap. These use an electric resistance heater which draws way to much for a normal RV battery to handle.
I was not aware of that. Is it part of some CPAP machines or a seperate unit? Any idea of the current draw on 120 volts?
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Nora and I really enjoyed the Bash II and the people we got to meet and to know, so....... we broke down and bought an Airstream! Next year's Bash III dates are already marked off on our calendar!

Hey Bill and Nora

Welcome back to airstreaming. I know you have owned a AS in the past. So us at the bash can't take all the credit. I'm sure glad to take some. If you want to show off that new Flying Cloud in the fall. We will camping at Penn Wood AS campground. They have a "Fall Colors Rally" in Oct. I know that many of your new friends are going to be there. Hope you can make it.

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I was not aware of that. Is it part of some CPAP machines or a seperate unit? Any idea of the current draw on 120 volts?
Looks like most range from 1.8-2.5 amps at 120V

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