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Old 07-06-2004, 11:14 AM   #15
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Sounds like Springfield's going to be crowded next year. If there's that many events going on nearby, campground spots might be hard to come by.

I had already figured the events at the international probably wouldn't be of interest to us, except maybe the tech sessions - but our trailer is pretty low tech already - so we were thinking af camping nearby and arranging to meet with the folks we wanted to visit with while we were there. Sounds like that might be harder than we expected.

Mark, what is the best time of year to visit the area?
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Old 07-06-2004, 11:21 AM   #16
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Sounds like Springfield's going to be crowded next year. If there's that many events going on nearby, campground spots might be hard to come by.

I had already figured the events at the international probably wouldn't be of interest to us, except maybe the tech sessions - but our trailer is pretty low tech already - so we were thinking af camping nearby and arranging to meet with the folks we wanted to visit with while we were there. Sounds like that might be harder than we expected.

Mark, what is the best time of year to visit the area?
Best time in my opinion is October. The Ozark greenery starts its fall color change, temps are just great and rainfall is minimal. We usually head down to the Branson area mid October for a week.

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Old 07-06-2004, 11:23 AM   #17
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We just returned from the rally, 2300 Miles round trip for us, pre registered for Springfield.

Why?

To us the rally is secondary. We enjoy the far flung friends that we get to see once or twice a year, and some of the seminars are interesting to sometimes. This year I did not attend one of them. This was a busy rally for me as President of my unit, but I had fun too. We went to Battle Creek and saw the "Breakfast Factory" as one of our four year old Friends described it. We also did a neat tour of the Botanical gardens on the MSU campus and had some ice cream in the Moo-U store. Ate out with a different bunch of friends every night, toured the vintage section with my sister-in-law (she flew in for 2 days from TX), went to a few happy hours, made some more new friends, All in all had a good time. We were parked in Marshall Park (30 AMP power) so did not get to experience the sinking feeling that others did

Not to say there isn't room for improvement. The evening entertainment was OK, not what I would pay to see. The Web access for those of us "still working" needs to have some additional though put into it. 3 phone lines in the Lansing center is not what I would call convenient or easy to use. Seminars that appeal to the vintage MH owners (I am a bit biased) would be nice, but the only way one will happen is if someone steps up and does it.

So there is room to improve, anyone have some time to spare so we can get some things on the Springfield schedule, or at the least have some input?
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Old 07-06-2004, 11:27 AM   #18
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BTW if you register for Springfield before 4/1/05 you can have 30 AMP power for the duration of your stay for an extra $125.00 $12.50 per day for 10 days, not a bad deal.
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Old 07-06-2004, 11:39 AM   #19
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October is when things are at their best, but September can be a great time for warm weather activities - swimming, boating, golf, fishing, without it being oppressively hot.

The crowds are mostly gone by Halloween, but we do a lot of camping and hiking in November and even into December. The hiking is great, and after leaf off the views are spectacular. Many of the Branson attractions have partial schedules into the Holiday season.

With all the wild flowers and generally mild temperatures, mid March through Memorial Day are good times to visit as well. Most attractions start their new season mid April. But be aware that spring weather can be amazingly - and suddenly - violent.

Caveat: While rare, snow can occur, well, anytime after Nov. 1. But we seldom see more than just a trace prior to New Years. I was planning to go to the Gulf Coast last January, but with our daytime highs in the mid 60's it seemed scarcely worth the effort. Do check the forecasts, though.

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Greetings Brett!

It was great to meet and have the opportunity to visit with you during the Rally. My experiences mirrored yours in many ways.

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We just returned from the rally, 2300 Miles round trip for us, pre registered for Springfield.

Why?

To us the rally is secondary. We enjoy the far flung friends that we get to see once or twice a year, and some of the seminars are interesting to sometimes. This year I did not attend one of them. . . . . We were parked in Marshall Park (30 AMP power) so did not get to experience the sinking feeling that others did

Not to say there isn't room for improvement. The evening entertainment was OK, not what I would pay to see. The Web access for those of us "still working" needs to have some additional though put into it. 3 phone lines in the Lansing center is not what I would call convenient or easy to use. Seminars that appeal to the vintage MH owners (I am a bit biased) would be nice, but the only way one will happen is if someone steps up and does it.

So there is room to improve, anyone have some time to spare so we can get some things on the Springfield schedule, or at the least have some input?
I too have pre-registered for the International in Springfield, Missouri - - can't miss out when it will be so close to home for me at less than 250 miles. Also, knowing what the late June early July weather can be in the region, I didn't waste any time in signing up for the 30-AMP parking area. From some early discussions, it appears that there MAY be a Vintage parking area set up in the 30-AMP section.

This was one of the first Internationals (six and counting) that I have attended where I didn't go to any of the seminars and a very few of the daily activities - - it was so much more interesting to relax in the VAC parking area and visit with the members and visitors at the site. I did attend several of the evening programs and enjoyed them, but agree that they were not necessarily something that I would have chosen if not for the company.

It seems that each International has its own "personality" or "flavor". This year's International was my absolute favorite of those held East of the Mississippi. The weather was fabulous. The people of Lansing seemed genuinely pleased to welcome our group (at least those whom I met along the road). The atmosphere at the rally site was fantastic. Even though I was parked at the Airport, I didn't have problems with mud - - even being among the last four parked in the last row of the Vintage parking area on Saturday evening. I did get the 4WD operable on the Suburban just prior to departure so exiting among the last half-dozen VAC attendees wasn't a particular problem either. This was my third International experience where mud was an issue - - the VAC paraded into a muddy field at the International in Boise, ID (1998) <my first International>, and there was some trouble with mud at the International in Dayton, OH (1999) as well. I can't speak of two of the recent Internationals held East of the Mississippi as I did not attend those in Burlington, Vermont (2003) nor Huntsville, Alabama (1997).

I am looking forward to another great International in Springfield, MO.

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Old 07-06-2004, 02:21 PM   #21
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John,
We went to our first and only rally last year. There was at least 30 yrs age difference between us and the other participants. We did some things on our own and some things with them. One of the participants was Don Schafer who is some sort of a vice president of WBCCI. He and his wife did all that he could to see that we were welcomed. He has a special interest
in trying to meet the needs of younger people and how the organization has to change in response to the members needs. I think he would really like to hear from you on this. Please email him. I'll look up his address and send it to you.
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John, we attended our first (and only) International in Sioux Falls in 2001. The folks were wonderful, and we got to meet some that we'd otherwise have never gotten to make their acquaintance. The stories were superb. The VAC group was a riot to hang with. The Rally itself was a less-than-memorable experience.

I'm sure we'd all like to hear your assessment of the International, and I'd also encourage you to discuss your concerns both with the International officers as well as your local unit officers.

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John,

Please feel free to post your ideas/thoughts here. We (WBCCI) does need to learn, and input is the only way to determine how to meet the needs of newer members.

I know of a few of the International members (Presidents) that check in here. They are looking at ways to attract newer, younger, active members, so post away!

I say this as a way to help get the thread back on track, because I sorta hijacked it
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Possible Solutions, too

It would be a good idea, if you attended an event you didn't like, for whatever reason, to also suggest what you think would be better. I know from personal experience that sometimes these events get put in the program because the organizers aren't sure what the attendees want to do.
While I don't think cow-tipping will ever be an accepted rally event, I am sure there are some things, that if you suggested them, may go over well with the powers that be.
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We were participatants at the FMCA (family motorcoach assoc) Rally ( Mud Fest) in Hutchison, Kansas October 2002. We had 5 inches of rain in 2 1/2 days on the Kansas State Fairgrounds. We, like many others, watched in horror as our magnificent "sinking beauties" disappeared into the mire.(grass and dirt parking,turned muck and goo) Unfortunately, the very same thing had happened several weeks prior during the big Kansas State Fair. None of the powers-at-be after hearing about the state fair, (FMCA honchos) seemed to have any kind of plan for a disaster. Multi-tonned RV's stuck in foot-deep mud by the thousands (4,000+,not kidding), I'd say is a disaster.
The local townspeople quickly lent a hand with industrial-sized tractors to drag sunken motorhomes to firmer ground, ours included. Never again will we willingly drive our coach or our Airstream off of terra-firma.
We have talked about taking our Globetrotter to the Missouri International, since its close.
I would be interested, John3237, in your assessment of Lansing. Please do post any thoughts you might have. We can all learn from yours and others experiences.
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I would suggest that you send your comments to the people who were in charge of this year's rally, Daryl Ewles, obdaryl@earthlink.net and Norm Hewer, nmh133@aol.com.

This was my third International, and was much better than the first two that I attended, both in South Dakota. That said, I am not planning on going to Springfield next year, even with 30 Amp at a reasonable price. We were at Marshall Park where we had 30A and smooth, dry, grassy parking. Lots of water, 4 day pump outs, and lots of power, even if it was about 61 htz which made the electric clocks run fast. I personally liked the entertainment. The auditorium was great with a good sound system. Skipped the opening, installation of officers and closing. I find them boring.

The seminar on Satalite was excellent.

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We have talked about the Missouri International, since its close, and now will look to book a site for our Globetrotter off-site. This way, we can pick and choose what and where we want to go and do and stay, and not be dependent on the local, temporary infra-structure.
don't you wanna caravan with us & park with the VAC???

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Thank you all, I have been invited by folks at WBCCI to send them my comments as well. I'm almost done with the first draft. If I can post it as a pdf file here I will, if not I will post a link to the file from my .mac website. In the thread there is good advice and I want to make my remarks constructive for planners and informative for those that are thinking about attending an International Rally. I do not want to discourage anyone from attending an International Rally, nor am I throwing in my beret. I will be maintaining my membership with WBCCI. Again I thank each of you for your support and interest.
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