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01-28-2008, 03:46 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1972 31' Sovereign
FAYETTEVILLE
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 70
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Ken, do you need to be a member of the WBCCI to participate in this rally. It is exactly what I'm looking for. I have a 72 Soveriegn that needs a lot of work. It has a lot of new replacement features. Heater, AC,hot water tank, but needs alot of repair work. Hope to be able to make it .
Sincerely, Gary Yandell
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01-28-2008, 03:55 PM
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#62
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,491
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Gary
I hope you can make it too - do you want me to put you on the list?
This is a "buddy" rally, so you don't have to be a member.
We like trailers that needs lots of work at this rally
Ken
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Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
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01-28-2008, 04:10 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1972 31' Sovereign
FAYETTEVILLE
, Arkansas
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 70
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Yes,please. I am getting more excited about this than I am March Madness, and I love NCAA Basketball.
Thanks, Gary Yandell
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01-28-2008, 04:10 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
West of Fort Worth
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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I don't have first hand experience on removing silicon. I'm going to get some because I have some on my trailer. What I understand it is very tedious work with popcicle sticks and even peanut butter. In my case it seems to have hardened and just picks off.
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I have used a 3-M product, oddly enough it's called "indoor outdoor caulk remover". It comes in a 8oz plastic bottle with a red and yellow label, and looks like white glue.
I had great success with it.
You apply it in a thick layer, completely covering the bead of caulking. Let set for at least 2 hours - I let mine set overnight.
I used a plastic putty knife to get the end loose, then the old caulk peeled off like a long worm. Almost no clean-up required.
Great stuff IMO.
Good luck, sounds like a great rally and a great theme.
Dave
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01-28-2008, 04:11 PM
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#65
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2 Rivet Member
1972 31' Sovereign
FAYETTEVILLE
, Arkansas
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 70
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P.S. That's my trailer.
Gary
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01-28-2008, 04:20 PM
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#66
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,491
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Gary
If you would send me your e-mail address, I'll put you on the list and make sure I send you updates.
Dave
Will have to pick up a bottle of that stuff and try it out!
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Founder :
Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
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Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
restoration rally
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01-28-2008, 04:49 PM
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#67
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2 Rivet Member
1967 17' Caravel
1959 17' Pacer
Corrales
, New Mexico
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 54
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Originally Posted by flyfshr
Hi Jackie and welcome. Make the check out to Four Corners Unit and send to me, Brad, at the address that's listed on the form. Hopefully its the Port Au Prince address.
Thanks and I look forward to meeting you.
Brad
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I sent it out this afternoon.
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01-30-2008, 08:20 AM
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#68
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4 Rivet Member
1961 16' Bambi
Mancos
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 472
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Hi All
Thought I'd post a few photos of Bambi's problem spots... I need to gather a list of supplies I must bring in order to make these repairs. Olympic Rivets? Aluminum (thickness?), Vulkem, etc. etc.
There is the belly belt. This needs to be removed in order to get the belly pan off.
Then there is a crease in the belly pan under the doorway. Probably just a patch or mucho vulkem..
Then there is the rip by the wheel and the detachment of the pan from the wheel well. When driving through water it just gushes up into the pan and who know where else.
These are but a few of the issues to deal with in regard to the belly pan. Particularly worried about where the belly pan connect directly to the frame without the belly belt in between
This is a 1961 remember. Much different from the 70's units.
Let's see some other projected projects
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01-30-2008, 12:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,491
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I would be curious what Aerowood has to say - If the belly is in otherwise good condition, I would tend to try and make a nice patch first. As far as the wrap goes - I would wrap a sheet of new metal over the old if thats possible - I would have to look at it - I also can't tell if you need a new piece of molding to go all around the wheel well without looking at it. On the wrap, you could remove all the rivets along the rivet line and slip a new piece of metal under the upper sheet then rerivet with olympics since you cannot get behind the sheet to use buck rivets. I would use as few olympics in that area as possible though...
Anyway, just my thoughts -
Ken J.
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Founder :
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Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
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Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
restoration rally
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01-30-2008, 12:41 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 21' Globetrotter
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Arvada
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2006
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An external or "scab patch" properly installed wet with a sealent would be the easiest and most economic repair for both of the areas indicated.
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01-30-2008, 12:58 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
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Kip
Thats what I thought - I was hoping you would give your opinion - I didn't know if I was committing the ultimate foe paz (however you spell that) by suggesting a patch. Since most folks don't spend a whole lot of time looking underneath and seemed to me like a patch would work. As far as the belly wrap goes, I would think you could run a length of new metal over the old and put the seam somewhere - where it looks like it should be - if that makes sense.
Ken J.
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Founder :
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Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
Rally
Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
restoration rally
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01-30-2008, 01:00 PM
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#72
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
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Gypsy
Looks like you may be ready for some new tires......can't tell for sure though
Ken
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Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
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Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
restoration rally
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01-30-2008, 02:36 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1961 16' Bambi
Mancos
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 472
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Originally Posted by Ken J
Gypsy
Looks like you may be ready for some new tires......
Ken
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Just Dirt... tires are quite new.
The belly belt is actually great shape. Quite thick. I'll just bring every thing I have and think I need, aside from tools, and we'll see what happens.
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01-30-2008, 02:39 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1961 16' Bambi
Mancos
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 472
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Yup!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerowood
An external or "scab patch" properly installed wet with a sealent would be the easiest and most economic repair for both of the areas indicated.
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I'd be happy with that I am pretty sure. While the belly pan is off of course I need to fix the deplorable insulation down there. And also take a look at the possibility of putting in a step like all the grown up Airstreams. However, I think a cross beam (whatever they are called) is almost half way into the area below the door.
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01-30-2008, 05:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
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If the fix is with a patch - you don't have to drop the belly pan to do that. Wondering how you know the insulation is in bad shape - can you see it with the belly pan on?
Just my thought, you have a very nice orginal trailer - add things like steps may decrease its value - just a thought.
Ken J.
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Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
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Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
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01-30-2008, 05:41 PM
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#76
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,742
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Youse 4 corners guys are making it really hard for me not to be a joiner. I hope to meet some of youse at Dead Horse, and then be an official Wallyite.
I can contribute a leaky dump valve project on my 71. It is internal not external and looks a little more difficult than later models in that I'm guessing you have to take off the banana wrap and drop the belly pan under the valve to get at it. Who knows what good s#@t this will get into.
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01-30-2008, 06:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1951 21' Flying Cloud
1960 24' Tradewind
West Coast
, BC
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,790
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I could see someone like the Learning Channel, or Discovery Channel, or one of those rebuild it channels, being very interested in filming something like this. It has all the makings of being a lot of fun with a very positive outcome for all concerned.
Just a thought...........
Barry
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Life is short - so is the door on a '51 Flying Cloud (ouch)
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01-30-2008, 06:26 PM
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#78
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
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Lumic
You are on to us...
I replaced the valve on my 75 - not too bad a project - just have to make sure you get the right valve as there are several that were used.
Let me know if you want me to put you on the attendee list by PM'ing me your e-mail address and I'll keep you updated on our plans..
Ken J.
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Founder :
Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
Rally
Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
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01-30-2008, 06:30 PM
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#79
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,491
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Barry
Hmm that would be interesting - I remember a film crew that filmed the VAC rally a few years ago - never made it to the tube though.....
If you know someone, let me know - on the other hand would we all have to yell at each other, throw temper tantrums and throw tools at each other? Now that would be a party - we could chase each other with air hammers....
Ken J.
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Founder :
Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
Rally
Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
restoration rally
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01-30-2008, 06:35 PM
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#80
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: I currently do not own a 2nd Airstream
Posts: 4,360
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The air hammers have too short of a leash. We need to use regular hammers. They also throw better.
Brad
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