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Old 12-14-2004, 09:52 AM   #15
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...as well as a blue tote tank for wash water (even if you have an on-board wash water tank the blue tote tank may come in handy if your on-board tank fills before the scheduled pump-outs (the usual practice has been two pump-outs in the Vintage section, but one is often the norm in the general population where the wash water tanks on the newer coaches are larger)...
Several years ago, a huge WBCCI event was held here in Huntsville, AL at the old airport. Perhaps some of you attended it.

Although I did not have my Overlander at that time, I did have my Suburban which allowed my wife & I to prowl around the event unnoticed. I remember feeling somewhat overwhelmed by the sight of so many Airstreams & 3/4 ton Suburbans. Up to that point, I had never seen a Pull-rite or Hensley hitch either.

Anyway, being a tent camper at the time, I did not take notice of how sanitation was handled at big events such as these. By "pump-out", do you mean that some sort of tank truck comes around to each site & is set up to pump out your holding tanks? Just curious.

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Old 12-14-2004, 09:57 AM   #16
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By "pump-out", do you mean that some sort of tank truck comes around to each site & is set up to pump out your holding tanks?
Yes, and it's a happy day when they arrive! And here's one of those things they don't tell you: put a little twist-tie or colored string on the black tank dump valve, so they know which is which...
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...<I attended one Rally where a member was traveling with a Great Dane>.
you mean, like THIS?
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Old 12-14-2004, 11:42 AM   #18
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Greetings Tom!

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Several years ago, a huge WBCCI event was held here in Huntsville, AL at the old airport. Perhaps some of you attended it.

Although I did not have my Overlander at that time, I did have my Suburban which allowed my wife & I to prowl around the event unnoticed. I remember feeling somewhat overwhelmed by the sight of so many Airstreams & 3/4 ton Suburbans. Up to that point, I had never seen a Pull-rite or Hensley hitch either.

Anyway, being a tent camper at the time, I did not take notice of how sanitation was handled at big events such as these. By "pump-out", do you mean that some sort of tank truck comes around to each site & is set up to pump out your holding tanks? Just curious.

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If my memory is correct, the Huntsville International Rally was in 1997. It was the first year that my Overlander was such that I felt comfortable with long-distance towing - - I didn't attend that International after I learned that there would not be enough power to run my Air Conditioner (I knew that with the heat and humidity I would never make it more than one night without my air conditioner). It was disappointing as it was so close to my home in far Southern Illinois.

You have the idea about "pump out". We are parked in vacant fields often near an airport or fair grounds so there are typically no exisiting RV ready utility connections. Prior to the last few years, wash water could be placed on the ground via a dark drain hose connected to the hose drain on the evacuation valve. My first experience with mandatory wash water collection was the Dayton, Ohio International Rally (1999) where PVC piping was run for the disposal of wash water - - in theory it sounded great - - in reality it wasn't so nice if you happened to be parked at the bottom of a hill that was lower than the drain point for a line - - in that situation, you likely returned home at least once to find your shower/bathtub filled with wash water from your row (guess who found a near overflowing bathtub when he returned from the Nutter Center and registration). The last two years, we have been required to provide for collection of our own wash water via tote-tanks if our coaches don't have wash water tanks or if the tank is of insufficient size. Part of the Rally fee for the International includes one pump-out by a "honey wagon", typically a commercial septic tank pumping service. You will arrive home to your coach one evening to find a yellow card attached your "note-clip" advising that your row is due for a pump-out the next day - - you will be asked to place your sewer hose near your dump valve to indicate desire to have your coach pumped - - the pumping crew will then pump your coach (this always seems to happen well before 9:00 a.m.). With our Vintage coaches (especially mid-1960s and before) it is generally a good idea to be with the coach for this process - - I know that with my '64 Overlander it is desirable to open the toilet flush valve to reduce the tank pressure during the pumping to avoid potential issues with tank collapse - - this trick was taught to me by a fellow '64 owner who had experienced a tank collapse when her coach was pumped when she wasn't present. There is typically something of a steep learning curve with the first attendance at an International Rally - - especially in the days before the Internet and the existence of Forums such as the one that we now enjoy.

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you mean, like THIS?
That face looks familiar. It was an intersting situation when my Chihuahua and the Great Dane first saw one another it was lmost as if my Chihuahua was trying to figure out what kind of bovine she was seeing (we spend our summers on a beef farm), and the Great Dane seemed to be trying to decide what kind of large rat he was observing.

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Old 12-14-2004, 12:29 PM   #20
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I wish I could make it to international, and see all our forum friends from the other side of the country! We are planning a trip to visit friends in Alton, IL this summer, but not during the hot season. No AC, ya know! Our friends in Alton, knowing we are whimpy cool-weather northwesterners have advised us to stay far away from MO in July

Maybe we'll see some of you in Oregon in 06!
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Old 12-14-2004, 08:14 PM   #21
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direct route?

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The most direct route is I44 from St. Louis to Springfield. I can't speak to road quality, but it is heavily travelled.
I can speak to the road quality of I-44 as we visit Mo from NC several times a year. I-44 is VERY rough with a continuous convoy of 18 wheelers going 75 to 80 mph.

As to it being the "most direct route", well, that depends upon where you are coming from. If you are traveling up I-24 from Nashville, you might think the best and most direct way is on to St. Louis and then Springfield via I-44. But alas! From I-24 the BEST and most DIRECT route to Springfield is via Hwy 60 which is accessed at Paduka, KY. While some of this Hwy is two lane, it is relatively easy traveling and it will save you approx. 100 miles vs. St. Louis and I-44.

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Old 12-14-2004, 09:01 PM   #22
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I can speak to the road quality of I-44 as we visit Mo from NC several times a year. I-44 is VERY rough with a continuous convoy of 18 wheelers going 75 to 80 mph.

As to it being the "most direct route", well, that depends upon where you are coming from. If you are traveling up I-24 from Nashville, you might think the best and most direct way is on to St. Louis and then Springfield via I-44. But alas! From I-24 the BEST and most DIRECT route to Springfield is via Hwy 60 which is accessed at Paduka, KY. While some of this Hwy is two lane, it is relatively easy traveling and it will save you approx. 100 miles vs. St. Louis and I-44.

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I agree - - living less than 60 miles from either Paducah, KY or Sikeston, MO - - US-60 is my choice when going West. I generally make several trips each year between Southern Illinois and Kansas with US-60 being my route of choice - - it is also easily accessible via I-57/I-55 at Sikeston, MO. Not only is there a mileage savings, there is far less stress from this route - - and a plus is the scenery is fantastic - - fuel even seems to be readily available when needed.

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Old 12-15-2004, 07:15 AM   #23
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It was an intersting situation when my Chihuahua and the Great Dane first saw one another

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anybody know where i could get a Danehuahua?
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Or maybe like THIS?
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Or maybe like THIS?
Actually, I think perhaps a bit like THIS!
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What is it with the Great Danes poking their heads out the door? Ours would open the slider himself so he could stick his head out to look around.

Of course, that was after we put a latch on the door so he couldn't open the whole door himself.

Oh yeah, and then we had to add bars to the door so he wouldn't just push the screen out.

Hmmm....
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anybody know where i could get a Danehuahua?
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Thanks to everyone for the travel directions.

I will be coming up I24 thru Paduka, Ky. I am going to pull out my maps tomorrow and have a look at that Rt. 60.

I want a leisurely route, good road, good scenic beauty and Rt. 60 sounds like it meets all of the above.

I44 sounds just like I70. I70 is terrible, especially at night. The trucks must be running 80-90mph.
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