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Old 05-31-2005, 11:02 PM   #1
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Rivet Watkins Glen NY Rally

This thread is to plan a Forum Rally in Watkins Glen NY this season. A few of us have discussed it and done some research. Right now the preferred dates seem to be in September, when the weather is comfortably cool and the bugs are gone.

Watkins Glen is at the lower tip of Seneca Lake in central New York state. In addition to the lake and all the recreation it provides, there are many things to do. Antiquing, wineries, racing events, hiking the gorge, and the Corning Museum of Glass are just a few of the great attractions.

The original idea was to have it be a "Vintage Rally" with all Airstreamers welcome. The leading contender for rally site is the Watkins Glen State Park, which offers 30 amp sites for RVs up to 30 feet long, dump station, convenient water fills (between sites), and a great pavilion with space for fairly large get-togethers.

All comments, questions, and ideas are welcome!
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Don't know how many fall camping trips we can handle, but we are certainly interested!
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Old 06-01-2005, 07:06 AM   #3
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You won't get in on a race weekend. Here's the schudule. The vintage race in the streets is also the weekend after Labor Day I think.

The park guys know the "available" dates.
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Wineries and a glass museum!!!!!!

Sounds great and the cool September nights will be awesome. If the date isn't going to conflict with a camping trip we are trying to plan for early September we'll be there.
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:17 AM   #5
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Some thoughts...

We would be interested in visiting Watkins Glen and we like the idea of a Northeast Vintage Rally (and even an annual vintage event). September is okay, but no matter what date you pick after Labor Day we're limited to weekends only since our kids will be back in school then.

An annual Columbus Day vintage rally might be a nice way to show off our fall color and allow more time for us working grunts and school age kids to attend. Could be a bit nippy, but probably no less predictable than the weather in DC for the Cherry Blossom rally in April.

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Old 06-01-2005, 09:12 AM   #6
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Thanks Rich for starting a thread on this. Watkins Glen State Park is a spectacular location. I compiled quite a bit of information on Watkins Glen last year when we first started to research this location as a potential rally site. As you probably already know, you won't be able to reserve during the Labor Day weekend because of the race held there annually. My suggestion for the "by-line" for the rally is:

"Open to "Members" of the WBCCI & the Vintage Airstream Club and those interested in joining."

From Boston, Watkins Glen is about 350 miles. There is the option of electrical hook-ups. Sites in the range of 92 - 105 are grouped together and those on the right hand side of the road back up to a stream. That's it for now.
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Nancy, if you still have the info I sent you last year maybe you could post it. When is Columbus Day.
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Columbus Day is Monday, Oct. 10 this year.
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From Boston, Watkins Glen is about 350 miles.
Yukionna -- thanks for waking me up on this. For some reason I was thinking it was under 300 miles. I put it into mapquest and it's actually 398 miles from where we live. A bit too long of a trip for a weekend, maybe even too much for a long weekend if we wanted to see anything once we arrive.
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Love to go

We will be definitely interested. Went to Corning Glass many moons ago and absolutely loved it. We always wanted to go back and buy a Steuben Glass piece. They are absolutely beautiful pieces of art. Corning Museum of Glass

So.......you can count us in if the dates work out.




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Nancy, if you still have the info I sent you last year maybe you could post it.
Here's some research information compiled by Over59:

We have a minor problem with Watkins Glen... maybe. Seem the weekend after
Labor Day is Vintage Race Weekend. They close the streets in town and race
vintage cars. Now I can't think of a better time and place for a Vintage
Rally but the technical complications would be overwhelming. Then the
weekend after that I think would be opening day Big E. I don't know if that
is a yearly event. If we could avoid a conflict with that event or
incorporate it if the Big E isn't a ritual, then the second weekend would be
good. Problem is getting sites the Vintage weekend. I think a future plan
to go then may be possible but would require more planning and a larger
group (see Group Camping below)


So here's the story.
Site 1 Mohawk Village, well shaded. Best sites are 80 to 90 for a group,
would make an Airstream Village scene and is close to the Bathhouse, which
was adequate.
Can reach down to 77 and up to 97 and still have a community feel for
everyone. The map of sites is not to scale. Site 81 has a large grass area
behind it which would make it great as a community site. No community
building in this area. Electric is 20 amp and 30 amp in same box but can
not be joined to make 50, one of the other. The few water faucets do have a
normal threaded connector with back flow protection so people could fill
their tanks. Dump station at the office is good with a water hose.
Reservations are open 9 months ahead of the date. However, even the
campground has reliability issues with the computer reservation system. I
had a hell of a time getting a site online. All reservations are handled by
Reservation America and calling by phone is best.

Site 2 The Recreation Building. This is in the area of the other three
loops. You can rent this for the weekend. Has picnic tables and fire
place. No kitchen ect. Behind it is a large wonderful field. Enough room
for a Regional. Dry camping only. If the ground is wet then sites in the
three loops and on the loop road itself are used as a backup. Price is 15
per AS per night plus rec hall rental which I'll have to recheck, I think it
was 150 for weekend. The field is huge and well kept. There are two
dumping stations in that area which can be used. That part of the
campground is closed after Labor Day except for Organized Groups, as in
official groups like WBCCI. This is where the NY Caravan stays on there way
to NYC. Advantage is everyone gets to be together without having to sign up
9 months ahead.

Site 3. Group Camping Area. This is a separate upper level to the
Campground. It is on maps as Hidden Valley Group Camp. This is the place
for a large rally in the future. It has a large hall with a professional
kitchen. Can be reserved 11 months ahead and goes fast for weddings ect.
Again a large beautiful field for dry camping. I'm not sure about the dump
situation. But this would be great if we could get is vintage weekend some
year. $500 plus 15 per per. Would take allot of planning and a strong
group to pull it off. But what a site for an East coast Vintage Rally or
joint Rally. Do you have NY unit contacts in the VAC. By the by has there
ever been a VAC National Rally aside from the International. ( making
trouble?)

Details..
There are two restaurants in town that make excellent donuts and breads, not
the Dunkin ....you know... This would make breakfast easy. Jane and I
were talking about bringing egg mixture all ready to bake for omelets pies
( I can't spell the Italian word) Again easy and not expensive. I don't
think it has to be so much work, coffee, milk (?), tea (?), donuts, omelets,
real Irish oatmeal (?), toast (?).

We went to the Corning Glass Museum, pretty good but no a kid thing. It's
really a glass museum in one part and a technology science museum in another
part. We didn't get to the whole thing so there may be more. It's an easy
20 minute drive and costs $12(?). They have a store with really cool stuff,
some amazing glass artist stuff for sale also.

There is the Seneca Lake lunch cruise, dinner cruise, and sightseeing cruise
on vintage lake boats. In the same area there is a miniature golf place by
the lake.

The grape season last year and this year were not good. Wine tasting may be
less than impressive, but still fun. The better places will still have
earlier vintages to taste but this would have to be worked out just before
going. The best day for tasting is Friday before the weekenders show up.

Then there is the hike. It's a really big deal. It starts at the bottom but
going through a tunnel in the rock at the Park Visitor Center. There is a
connecting trail from the Campground which makes it easier for the young and
less hardy. I haven't looked at the topo maps to get the vertical but will
do so.

Travel: 90 is good, 88 has a few short bad spots but nothing you have to
avoid. Between Exit 41 and 42 on 90 along route 318 is the biggest outlet
center I have ever seen with easy Rv access. Near the 41 exit is a good
place for lunch with lots of parking area next to it. Go around Albany
using 87, it's how they send you to avoid the city traffic and backed up
toll plaza. NY uses the same electronic toll thingy as Mass, we love it.
Use 14 South if you come in from the North.

On Saturdays south of Penn Yan is this huge open air market ( The Wind Mill)
with Amish (sp) farmers, crafts, food, butcher, furniture, ect. about 30
minutes from WG.
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More background information on Watkins Glen

Things to consider with Watkins Glen:

1) Limited hook-ups (electric or dry are the options)
As a rule I don't mind limited hook-ups but many people will probably make a longer weekend out of it and with vintage trailers, dry/electric camping could reduce interest. As you are promoting a vintage trailer event, be aware of introducing factors which could potentially reduce interest. It would be nice if everyone is able to park together.

2) Reservations
This location uses Reserve America which requires payment in full in advance with one name per reservation -- you can't reserve a block of sites under a single name. This was a challenge I had with reserving sites for my recent Seaside Rally.

3) Grand Prix Rally
According to their website, the Grand Prix festival attracts crowds of 20K+. The festival kicks off on September 9 which is the weekend after Labor Day. I think the Grand Prix rally would be a fabulous event to plan an A/S rally around but there are challenges with holding our rally smack dab in the center of all the racing events if we can even get campground reservations.
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Other rally events which could conflict:

Just a heads up -- there are two New England Unit rally's planned for mid-September and Columbus Day weekend which could result in reduced interest in the Watkins Glen rally:

1) Old Time Connecticut Rally
September 16-18
Charter Oak & New England Unit Business Meeting and Installation

2) Wine Tasting Rally
October 8-10
Nashoba Winery
Minuteman & Nashoba Valley KOA
Littleton, MA

Additionally, there is a Tin Can Tourist event in September which will draw vintage trailers:

FALL CAMPOUT & FLEA MARKET, Camp Dearborn,
September 22-25, 2005
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Sounds Like a great place

Central NY sounds like fun.. Count us in if the dates work out.
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