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Old 01-28-2007, 08:56 PM   #15
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Carol, that was a wonderful production number! And Laurel what an amazing and inspiring adventure.
And Debra, I'm going to have my girls read your well-put observations of one who decided to no longer sit "shotgun".
I'm feeling pretty darn honored sitting around this campfire. But those s'mores could use a little more chocolate...
Thanks!
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Old 01-28-2007, 09:01 PM   #16
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OMG Carol - that was way too funny and just perfect timing - some of the sistas here are getting a bit too Mushy.

I'm married hmmm coming up to our 25th next year - unfortunately no children - but that is life too sometimes....my man - he is great and all the other things we say about our guys - but he really is great, has the looks, has the job, has the talent and LOVES me to the ends of the earth as I do him. - okay that is enough mushy for me....

But I just gotta get out of here! and get me some "girl power".

someone pass me a drink please my glass is empty....and I just bought my new 1963 Globe Trotter today!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-28-2007, 09:34 PM   #17
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Ok Sharon, I have my wine and I guess I'll take a real turn and show my mushy side this time.

My husband and I will be married for 37 years, this 4th of July. We actually have been together for four more years since we met right out of elementary school. The one thing that I have never done is live on my own. Traveling in the Airstream gives me an opportunity to exercise some independence and develop self-reliance and confidence. Leaving travel plans open ended, I can make decisions that I would not otherwise have the opportunity to do. Sometimes I worry and sometimes I get into a minor jam of sorts, but mostly I am pleased to make my acquaintance, if you know what I mean. I may never really "find" myself, but the search is near euphoric. I especially love seeing the sun rise and set on the road during the "magic" hours. I not only see one awesome sight but it travels right along with me, ever changing and lighting up my world with the effect of wearing rose colored glasses.

Ok Sharon, time for more comic relief and another glass of wine. Who brought appetizers? I'm starving!
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Old 01-29-2007, 12:39 AM   #18
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Hi Carol,,and all like minded, been a widow since 1990, raised 2 daughters,, got the Bambi in 2004,,, the Safari 2006,,, now,, that said, how do i conquer the great gas station fear while towing the 25?? have been in situations where no truckstops around and panic sets in as the E gets closer,,,do not say carry extra gas, as tow vehicle is enclosed,, gals,, help me out please! love my Streams and camping,, but,,, this fear is doing my independent self in,,,donna
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Old 01-29-2007, 12:58 AM   #19
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If you can Tow It - You can PUMP it!

Looks like you are a night owl dieterdog- Donna Which I guess makes me one too at 1:44 am eastern standard time.

I have not done a lot of solo but Peter and I do share the driving about 50/50. We have the 21' and have taken two trips with the 26' attached to the 18' Yukon which makes us 39 and 41' respectively or in otherwords Loooonggggggg. But not as long as the 28, 34's out there.

Fear is driven by the notions of "unknown" and "unprepared". Know your rig and take a mental size of your total length pace it off in your head. Now scope out the pumps, the cars at the pumps, the cars waiting to go to the pumps, the area leading into the gas station and of course which side your hole is on.

Indicators and lots of lead time are great tools! If a lane to a pump is not open and you don't have the opportunity to do a loop around to fit on the otherside. Check out where you are exiting from - if there is more than one lane (which in the states there is usually 400 - opps sorry about that ) there is usually at least two - you can put your indicator on or your 4-ways and wait to pull into the gas station when the gas lane you need is open - without cutting anyone off.

People will go around you. Some may flip you the bird but who cares. Do you think these people who drive transport worry about the other guy - nope they got a job to do - well so do we - we got girl power and WE CAN TOW IT. And if we gotta wait for the darn pump then them there impatients can wait too....

I used to be able to say go to a parking lot on a Sunday - but I am not sure there is anywhere that the stores close on a Sunday. So how about a large Church parking lot say on a Saturday or during the week. Set up some pylons in the form of a simulated gas station - and practice pulling in off the road up to the pump and back out again.

Once you have that feeling of how "Big" you are and recognize the spots you can swing into - you will feel so much more confident and that is half the battle.

You Go Girl!!
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:26 AM   #20
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Worst case.... you could just find a parking lot, unhook the trailer, get gas in your tow vehicle and go hook the trailer up again. Hey, I've found myself in a situation or two that I couldn't get out of. I am horrible at backing, well let me correct that.....I just plain can't back. Can you say jack-knife? Had to be creative or just sit and cry for a minute and suck it up and get help. Still wouldn't give up the Airstream. I've got the DVD to show me how to back, but I think I'm backing challenged. I can pull the heck out of this trailer going forward. I can hook it up and unhook it better than my husband any day, he's the strong arm it type. Sooooo I can't back. Donna, keep after it, you'll find a way. You live in a great place to go camping.
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Old 01-29-2007, 07:41 AM   #21
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Hi girls,

Mrs. Towdaddy here. Is there room for one more to pull up a chair around this special campfire? This is a great idea!

Gas stations make us all anxious, if the truth be known. As said here before the most important thing to help with this is to be confident in your ability. The only way to accomplish this is practice, practice, practice. The fear of the unknown the moment that you realize that it is time to exit the freeway causes the anxiousness to set in. I am a total length of 60' and when comes to time to turn into a gas station everything must be just right. Everytime I begin to do this I hear the voice of my son, "Move over boys, my mom is coming in.". This helps me put things into perspective. I don't like to put others out, but when you need fuel, you need fuel. No matter how I do it I know that I am going to inconvenience someone. You gotta do what you gotta do! I also remember that if worse comes to worse I can always go out in reverse of the way I went in. Just remember all of you that have never much of this before, your confidence in your ability is most important in this situation. I did a lot of this with my 30' and never had a problem, that's not to say I was never anxious. I have never done this with my 34' yet. But I will not let this stop me from getting out there and meeting all of you. If we overcome our fears soon they will no long be fears!!!

I guess since I'm the new around this fire, it is my turn to stoke the fire.

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Old 01-29-2007, 07:52 AM   #22
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Hey thanks for stoking the fire Vickie - I woke up this morning with a bit of a chill on my backside - but the fire is raging again.

Now that is a long trailer! I just get butterflies with the 21' - did not mind the 26 tandem, so when I get this little 19' and being a 7' wide model it will feel like I am towing a "Boler". Why the Yukon is only a foot shorter...

Anyone for coffee or tea - with their pancakes??
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Old 01-29-2007, 08:09 AM   #23
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Talking Hello Fellow Airstream Sisters

Good Morning everyone,
I am Annie .. the other half of Happycampers. Have been married to Marvin for 6 wonderful years... we say it took us over 30 years to find each other and the wonderful invention of a computer.. Another story.. The Argosy has been wonderful project for us both to work on and to meet great friends. Some who have become family like Sharon and Peter.
Sharon does have a great campfire and we have shared that a few times. Have met Carol and enjoyed her company at the Metro Detroit Rally last summer.. How is Oreo? Well I have towed the Tradewind a little on the 402 and the worse thing I hate about towing is the on ramps because I like to stay in the right lane, was cut off by an 18 wheeler and have been nervous ever since. Now we have the 30' Argosy and I WILL learn to tow it and have a diesel truck now and I just dare anyone to cut me off... lol.. just kidding.. .
Besides doing the Argosy over .. I will practice the art of towing this summer. Pilons are a great idea. As far as fuel goes... that is why the Hubby is adding a 90 gallon fuel tank in the bed of the truck...
Best to Airstream Sisters... Annie
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Old 01-29-2007, 08:56 AM   #24
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Vickie, I believe you have the longest rig at 34' of all the Rivettes. Vickie is a backing pro cutting her teeth on navigating her long curving uphill driveway and then performing a sharp narrow turn between the house and a tree, is it? Now that is awesome!

Juel and Donna, the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. When backing take your time, move slowly, stop often, pull forward if necessary, and redirect the angle and constantly check your clearances, get out and check the blind spots. The axle is your pivot point, you just have to know the amount of swing room the AS will need and the length required to complete it. If it isn't working then go forward enough to try a whole new approach. For fueling I wait for the end pumps.

I got "stuck" again this trip on the way home from Florida. Remember to walk your exist paths before entering them. Argh! I thought I was going to pull around the gas station, I saw the driveway going back and the one coming out. What I didn't see was that behind the building it narrowed to the width of a passenger car with an abrupt right angle around the rear corner of the building. I found swearing quite theraputic. Now at this point it was not FEAR. Whatever goes in must be able to get out, eventually. It was embarrassment, frustration and anger for getting myself in a jam that I knew better than to have gotten into. What I thought was going to be an easy exist turned out to be a really really long backward U and I was having a lot of trouble with it with obstacles. It seemed like forever but probably a mere 15 minute or so. All the while exiting the truck after a minute correction and checking for clearance, rethinking the next move, and swearing some more and making the most intense frowns and faces. The worst part of it? I didn't get gas there, their terminal was down and they were not accepting charge cards! Unless you are on the moon there will always be someone around who could help if you aren't too proud to ask. Just don't let the stress cause you to move too quickly, think too little or forge ahead (or backward.)

Hi Annie, you will not believe how much Orie has grown! I cannot wait to see you again. I had the best time those post rally days with you and Marvin. I really want to see how the Argosy is progressing. You did such a great job on your other Argosy. How is the weather in Ontario?
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Old 01-29-2007, 09:55 AM   #25
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Great stories! I think we all HATE to back up but you do get better with practice. I'm still not a pro by any means but I manage. I think the key to success is to have a good spotter. Someone is always willing to help guide you...they don't want you backing into their vehicle, the gas pump, or mowing down the trees at the campground! Sometimes I get it the first time, sometimes it takes forever...inching forward and back...constantly getting out to look. I've also let someone else do it when the frustration got to be too much. (There always seems to be an old pro somewhere in the campground ) And you can always request a pull through. I like to do that when I can and leave my TV hitched if I won't be there very long.

Wow. A 34 footer. Now that is impressive! If we caravan we can all help spot for you. As everyone said we just need to scope out the situation as much as possible in advance and remember that there is a way out of every situation...even if it is frustrating or embarrassing. We've all been there...many times .
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I'll take some coffee please...anyone for a cinnamon roll?

*tosses another log on the fire*
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:02 AM   #27
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Hello everyone,
What a cool thread and well-timed since I'll miss the women's rally in Santa Barbara.

I have yet to trailer at all, with or without my husband. It has taken a year to get her road-ready, and we're fighting like mad to meat the deadline I set for the Oregon rally at the end of Feb! Nothing like pressure to get those last minute things done, ay?

I have been of an independent mind my whole life. I was raised by a single mom who is QUITE independent ... and I suppose that gave me the edge- that my husband finds both nice and irritating . I have often regretted showing how capable I was before getting married because now I am expected to be able to do...everything! I should of faked the incompetent bit a little better!

A little background... When my husband and I met I was a single mom of a 4 year old going to college. I was not looking for any man to rescue me and I suppose I had that vibe out there- [how he ever cracked me... oh I remember I wanted more babies !!] Anyway, he and I took a trip to Oregon together and he proceeded to get his truck stuck in the sand. In a matter of seconds and without word, I jumped out and began digging the sand out in front of the tires and pushed the truck out. He tells me this is when he new he wanted to marry me... aww... Fastforward to October of 2006.. and I just had to have an airstream... NOW!! Well, he is a fantastically generous and accommodating man, and knows where his food comes from, so I got her !! (of course)

The airstream has been MY project. He wanted nothing to do with the rehab- and I wanted it that way. MINE! So I began gutting, cleaning, well, it's all in my thread... But in the end I had to "hire" him for his carpentry skills in the re-building of 2 cabinets and the making of a dinette. He's the detail, with a plan half... I'm the slam it together and "must finish it now"....

All that aside, I'm still way terrified of travelling alone. I think I could do it if I were meeting a gang of gals though... then I'd just have to overcome the pulling the trailer part.

More coffee????
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:34 AM   #28
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Confessions around the campfire? I'm game too. I am terrified at the idea of heading out with Gypsy on my own. I'm a great second chair, navigator, scouter, assistor, anticipator, but I've not yet done the whole hitch up-head out-gas up-back up-set up-dump out deal. Max has limited flexibility so I'm his second set of hands, but he still likes to "do" so after 40+ years of marriage, I've learned to accomodate that. I think that besides just wanting to say "I CAN TOW IT," I want the confidence of knowing that if Max were to get ill when we are on a trip, I CAN get us home safely. It's sort of like having an emergency exit plan for the Airstream and the house. Planning ahead can make a frightening situation doable. About the fueling, I think the most important factor is, again, to plan ahead. Watch that fuel gauge and start looking for an open accessible pump well before you really need it. Be picky. We are when we are on the road and it sure beats getting between that proverbial rock and a hard place! So, enough mushy for me. . .This fire is warming me this frigid morning, I'm ready for that second cup of coffee (thanks, Sequoia!), and I'll just add a splash of Baileys, thank you ~G
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