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Old 06-22-2014, 09:37 PM   #155
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did i see that right on burningman.com that tickets are $650 each??? for 2 people that is 1300.

i read they (BLM) increased capacity last year from 55K to 65K people.. so if you figure $650 x 65000= $42,250,000 thats 42billion dollars of income.. What do they provide for all that entry money.. provide beer, pot, topless hotties walking around. Heck i can get that in Vegas and a comp room.

did not know it cost so much to spend a week in the desert with no comforts and all the dust you ever care to eat..

Am i missing something.. and yes i have seen a bunch of the videos and it does look like a hoot of a good time but for $1300 plus fuel and food and water dollars i am not sure..



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Old 06-22-2014, 11:01 PM   #156
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1. NevadaGeo, Perry


2. Zep, aka Dr Quark, 23 footer, there all week with a guest (Mike)


3. Bam, aka Laurel, 19 footer, there all week


4. Avid Traveler


5. Drew05; Drew and Carol, 25'. Arrive on Tuesday with JD...


6. Tranquilo


7. jdalrymple, Jeff and Cindy, 27'. Arrive Tuesday.
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It's very helpful if you include arrival times. I need to know how much space to reserve to later arrivals, and to allow space for them to either get into the circle or fit into the perimeter. Thanks.

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Old 06-23-2014, 12:28 AM   #158
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did i see that right on burningman.com that tickets are $650 each??? for 2 people that is 1300.

i read they (BLM) increased capacity last year from 55K to 65K people.. so if you figure $650 x 65000= $42,250,000 thats 42billion dollars of income.. What do they provide for all that entry money.. provide beer, pot, topless hotties walking around. Heck i can get that in Vegas and a comp room.

did not know it cost so much to spend a week in the desert with no comforts and all the dust you ever care to eat..

Am i missing something.. and yes i have seen a bunch of the videos and it does look like a hoot of a good time but for $1300 plus fuel and food and water dollars i am not sure..
Nope. Tickets were not $650. There was an "early bird" offer at that price before Christmas. Next, if you look at the expenses sheet, BLM takes a large hunk of the ticket price. Then Pershing County sheriff takes another large chunk of the price. Then Wahoe County takes. Then BM grants Honorarium money to several art works in progress. Then BMorg does provide portapotties and has the roads wetted several times. And at the end, BMorg does take some profit.
The object of the event isn't what BMorg provides for you, it's what you provide for the event, what you do to participate, what you do to help create it. If you want an event that "provides", this isn't the event for you.
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I guess looking at only the cost and having to boondoggle or dry camp, may cause one to ask where is the value in buying tix and attending. For us it’s simply the price of admission to a once in a life time and bucket list experience. If you’ve read previous posts and stories about BM, you can see why costs are high, (start with leave no trace on the playa and the after event clean up, and not to mention the trail of trash found off the playa). When a small number of people don’t follow existing rules, then the alternative is additional rules (and costs) or cancellation of activities.

We have been interested since we first heard about BM. And while Jeff and Cindy have been 'guiding' us, we fully recognize that this will be extreme for us and definitely outside our 'comfort' zone. Right now we know that there is a lot of things we don’t know, but that is part of the experience.

I’m not a math or financial whiz, but I believe your estimate is actually closer to $42 million, not billion.
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I guess looking at only the cost and having to boondoggle or dry camp, may cause one to ask where is the value in buying tix and attending. For us itís simply the price of admission to a once in a life time and bucket list experience. If youíve read previous posts and stories about BM, you can see why costs are high, (start with leave no trace on the playa and the after event clean up, and not to mention the trail of trash found off the playa). When a small number of people donít follow existing rules, then the alternative is additional rules (and costs) or cancellation of activities.

We have been interested since we first heard about BM. And while Jeff and Cindy have been 'guiding' us, we fully recognize that this will be extreme for us and definitely outside our 'comfort' zone. Right now we know that there is a lot of things we donít know, but that is part of the experience.

Iím not a math or financial whiz, but I believe your estimate is actually closer to $42 million, not billion.
right sorry 42 million.. so hearing about the cost of stuff,, ie BLM, sheriff, cleanup, etc.. I under stand it a one of a life time experience.. but you can go every year and a lot do so that might be a stretch.. I hope one day to make that trek and see the sights, smell the smells, taste the dust etc and I do understand it a spiritual event for sure.. guess i need to try and buy ticket real early when we want to go in several years god/universe willing.

too all the ones going... good travels and i look forward to the videos.. would be nice to see a drone view of all streams in playa.
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1. NevadaGeo, Perry


2. Zep, aka Dr Quark, 23 footer, there all week with a guest (Mike)


3. Bam, aka Laurel, 19 footer, there all week


4. Avid Traveler


5. Drew05; Drew and Carol, 25'. Arrive on Tuesday with JD...


6. Tranquilo


7. jdalrymple, Jeff and Cindy, 27'. Arrive Tuesday.



Who else? Bill and Annie? Mark? Rhonda? Kip? Any luck with tickets Pink? Holly?
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Zep, Bam, et al: I'll be towing in from Reno and arriving at BRC as early as feasibly possible on Monday (8/25). So, the exact ETA is a big IF. As per usual, I'll have my teeny tiny DWR (16ft)- Archie
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1. NevadaGeo, Perry

2. Zep, aka Dr Quark, 23 footer, there all week with a guest (Mike)

3. Bam, aka Laurel, 19 footer, there all week

4. Avid Traveler

5. Drew05; Drew and Carol, 25'. Arrive on Tuesday with JD...

6. Tranquilo

7. jdalrymple, Jeff and Cindy, 27'. Arrive Tuesday.

8. RG Coleman, Archie, 16', arriving sometime Monday.

9. Bill and Annie

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Carl,

It was a jump of faith for us. Being a newbie, the who process was new to me, and at time not very clear. It seems as if the 'new and improved' version was not without faults. I had the good fortune of being able to use 2 different computers to get in.

I'm not sure if this will be an annual event for us or a one and done. While cost is a concern, time is a bigger one - especially with us both working. There are still a number of trips on our bucket list...

Now if money and time were not an issue...
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Holding Tank Pumping

The Placement Newsletter has announced the following:
You can buy pre-paid holding tank service from United Site Services:
1. The last day to place a service voucher order will be July 25, 2014. All service needs past this date will need to be met by flagging down a driver on site.
2. Any camp of 15 RVís or more will be set up on a VIP program with a set driver and set block of time for service each day.
3. Each camp set up on a VIP program will receive a Voucher Box that all service vouchers will need to be placed in for each RV requiring service. The number of service vouchers in the box upon service technician arrival will be the number of RVís serviced that day.
4. Any camp of 5 RVís or less per day will not be pre-scheduled. Pre-paid Service Vouchers can still be purchased, but a service technician will need to be flagged down on site for service to be completed.
5. All payments on-site are required to be in cash.
I don't see any benefit in purchasing a voucher. Past experience tells me that on day 4 or 5 we'll flag down a vacuum truck and about half of us will want the service. There's no way we'll ever have a requirement to service 5 Airstreams per day, so even with a voucher you won't be able to schedule service.

If you have only one or two persons per Airstream, it's possible to make it through the week without service if you're VERY CAREFUL about using minimal water to flush. If you miscalculate, you can always use the Porta-Potties until you can flag down a truck, so I think the voucher idea is a complication you don't need (unless you plan on arriving without any cash).

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^ I agree. Flagging down the pump trucks if you need them hasn't been a problem in the past. I usually try to catch them but some years I haven't and it's been fine.
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In 2014, through coordination with the BLM, we will be opening the Black
Rock City Gate to participants earlier and closing it later in order to
maximize use of daylight hours, minimize traffic impacts on local roads,
smooth out traffic flow, and create a safer travel situation for
everybody. This is a one-year experiment, and if it goes well, it could
mean we continue it in the future.

*INGRESS*
This year we have approval from BLM to open the Black Rock City Gate for
Burning Man participants at 10am on Sunday, August 24. NO early arrivals
are allowed before that time without an Early Arrival Pass!

*THE EVENT*
The event itself officially starts at 6pm Sunday, August 24, and it's
expected that participants use the earlier arrival time as opportunity
to set up their camp infrastructure during the day. The event officially
ends at 6pm on Monday, September 1, 2014, after which people are
expected to start breaking down their camps, conduct Leave No Trace
efforts, and prepare to depart the city.

*EXODUS*
This year we have authorization from BLM to allow Exodus to extend
through Tuesday, September 2 at noon, allowing for a safe and smooth
egress period. So if the line of cars in Exodus is too long, and your
schedule allows, you may want to wait in your camp. Use the extra time
to rest for the drive, secure your vehicle loads, MOOP your campsite, or
your block. Plan accordingly so that you're out of the city by Tuesday
at noon.

Remember, this is one-year experiment by the BLM and Burning Man to help
ease the traffic backups on entry and Exodus. If everyone works together
and is off the playa by noon Tuesday, we will look at continuing the
extended opening and departure in future years. Help us smooth out the
traffic flow!



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