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Old 03-23-2013, 12:58 AM   #99
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Remember when you showed me that in City? Its leaving...

THE RAYGUN GOTHIC ROCKETSHIP ENDS 2.5 YEAR TENURE IN SAN FRANCISCO

Following its debut at Burning Man in 2009, the Raygun Gothic Rocketship (www.raygungothicrocket.com) graced San Francisco's Embarcadero, blowing the minds of locals and tourists alike for two and a half years. As all good things must come to an end, the 5 Ton Crane crew dismantled the Rocketship this last weekend, putting it in storage, awaiting its next adventure.

In other news, anybody want a rocketship?

Like ... seriously. Contact them at info@raygungothicrocket.com.
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Old 03-23-2013, 01:01 AM   #100
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Camp size and layout

Zep needs this to construct the plan we have to submit in the application. The application won't even "save" until we have the "plan view" submitted.

Number of Campmates *This question is required.
How many people will be camping with you? We have limited areas available for very large camps/villages, therefore we are encouraging more, smaller camps.
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Number and Type of Vehicles *This question is required.
Burning Man would like to support environmentally conscious transportation options. Please consider this as you plan your transportation to the playa. Please specify the number of cars and large vehicles (RVs, buses) that will be in your Camp so we can determine space needs.
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We need a description of the layout of your Camp. Please describe the physical aspects with as much detail as possible. Include a description of features like structures, buildings, vehicles, tents, platforms, and the locations of your power sources. Maximum of 5000 characters.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:20 PM   #101
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Art Installation

Hey Nevadageo

I am thinking/working on an "art" installation to place on the Playa.... I have sent a submission directly to BM - is that cool? Or, should it go through you as our Emperor and Grand Mufti?

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Old 03-24-2013, 11:04 PM   #102
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Hey Bravo on some art! It'll help with our groveling to be placed, maybe we'll get a little closer than outer Tertiary Avenue even. I'm just the formologist imaginating us onto the playa with the application process, and somehow placement hasn't caught on to us yet...
Now we gotta get some Mutant Vehicles in our midst, to help get you out to your art. I think the art questions in the theme camp application (back on post #96) were probably covered in your application, let me know what you think.
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:55 PM   #103
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Hello fellow streamer, finally I am making the track across the us, New York City to Black Rock City. I want to ask a question I will be building a white picket fence around my AS for two reason. On because I always wanted a white picket fence and two to protect my AS from other dauber form other people that haven't done their research about the 100 mile an hour wings, I don't want some tent fling into my AS. Plus I think it will cool. Is this do a bull please get back to me. thank you
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Old 03-30-2013, 11:46 AM   #104
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Build a picket fence for looks if you want, but unless it's a lot higher and stronger than the typical picket fence, it won't help if your neighbor's 200 lb carport goes airborn in a dust devil.

I've seen carports blown clear over a Suburban w/o touching it, but that sort of thing is rare. Unstaked tents go flying more often, but that's not much of a hazard - they're really light.

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...I will be building a white picket fence around my AS for two reason. ... I don't want some tent fling into my AS. Plus I think it will cool. ...
My first impression is that this won't help unless it's 15' tall (agree with BARTS). For looks, this sounds neat, but if it's a "keep out" kind of thing, then it's anti-Burner. Adding little touches like this to make a campsite look like home is a real plus.

I've been in the Airstream camp 4 times with various vintage Airstreams. I've never suffered and dings and I don't recall anyone else getting dinged, either. Not to say it won't happen, of course. We try to park everyone so that the Airstreams provide wind breaks for each other and the camp, so exposure is minimized. Two years ago we had camps on both sides that were in very large tent structures, 9-12' high, that provided lots of cover--not from the wind so much as for flying things.

If you have a concern, I would rig up a heavy mesh wall (strong webbing and a suitable frame (PVC?), with rope and stakes to keep it teathered in high wind) and then erect it on the exposed side of your Airstream. I think you'll find you only need to protect one side. Lots of campers use something like this for a sunshade.

The wind blows from 6 o'clock 90% of the time. (That's about 210 degrees.)

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Old 03-30-2013, 06:00 PM   #106
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Another thing to consider is how to anchor a picket fence to the ground. Digging holes for posts must be done according to guildelines for Leave No Trace and with the shared understanding of all the camp that the time consuming process of filling and wetting and filling and wetting must be followed.

Rebar stakes do a good job of anchoring things to the ground - 12-18" of rebar below ground should work, depending on how tall a fence you are planning to bring. It helps a lot to weld a cross bar at what will be ground level, and then attach the fence to the part that sticks up.
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Old 03-31-2013, 07:32 AM   #107
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Thanks everyone, The picket fence will be mostly for looks. It defiantly will not be anti burning man. The fence will be only 3 feet high with with 10, 4 by 4's anchored down 2 1/2 ft. under ground. I will be putting a sign up, Home Sweet Home. Please if you see me come by for a cup of hot coffee or some cold lemon aid.
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Old 03-31-2013, 02:21 PM   #108
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Be sure to check the Burning Man guides about 4x4 holes. Large holes must be completely filled in before you leave the event. This means filling with dust, wetting down, waiting, filling again, wetting down again, waiting again, repeat, repeat...it's a very slow process so be sure to allow plenty of time. Dents left in the playa by improperly filled holes will jeopardize theme camp status for the whole group for the next year.

Rebar holes can be left as is and seem to be self healing. They are also easier to make, since they require only rebar and a heavy hammer and don't require you to have a place to store the stuff you take out of the ground so that you have something to refill your holes with.

I know I sound school marm-ish, but Leave No Trace is a vital part of Burning Man, a principle that sets this event apart from all other gatherings of this size. It is something to be proud of.
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Hello all. just thought I'd chime in here. we usually camp just off the 3 o'clock plaza. This will be the first year with our airstream. we are part of a crew that builds a tower just off the plaza. I like the sound of your camp being on that side of town. I'd feel more at home with all that aluminum in the area.
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Be sure to check the Burning Man guides about 4x4 holes. Large holes must be completely filled in before you leave the event. This means filling with dust, wetting down, waiting, filling again, wetting down again, waiting again, repeat, repeat...it's a very slow process so be sure to allow plenty of time. Dents left in the playa by improperly filled holes will jeopardize theme camp status for the whole group for the next year.

Rebar holes can be left as is and seem to be self healing. They are also easier to make, since they require only rebar and a heavy hammer and don't require you to have a place to store the stuff you take out of the ground so that you have something to refill your holes with.

I know I sound school marm-ish, but Leave No Trace is a vital part of Burning Man, a principle that sets this event apart from all other gatherings of this size. It is something to be proud of.
The soil actually is different at 2 or 2 1/2 feet, it's not nice to be stirring it up. As I understand, our runway at the Black Rock City International is distinguished from miles of playa by exposing the different color soil a few inches below the surface.
Think of attaching something to the dry playa surface as trying to work on miles of thick sheetrock, except it's harder. But it won't stand up once you put a hole in it, it falls to about 50 or 40 degree repose when it's crunched. Except if it gets wet, it has no strength, just slop. Dry it is very difficult to dig a hole that it don't fall in on itself, even as small as to plant a solar yard light a few inches.
(I digress, particle size is very very small, after 6 days of letting a sample settle in a vertical water flask, 24some% was still in suspension. A bit of my boring Wednesday evening talk, you can skip that part now. Except that makes a difference in the dust mask you might want to pick up. very small, a decimal or two less than the .o2)
#4 or #3 rebar works well for hold downs, 18 inches long seems to be more than plenty. A modified fencepost driver can help to drive the rebar, except it's best to have the rebar flush to the ground so I don't trip over it in the dark. Welding on a washer at the end of the rebar helps for your anchorage, and to pull the bar. But do a better job welding than I did.
Pulling rebar out of the playa can get to be a trick, we need to have a few rebar pullers. Last year the Coffmans were able to use their truck to pull out a few stubborn rebar, with out a mishap. I don't think?
Interesting to note, this airstream camp has been in the general 3:00 area since 2007, that I've been part of. We have threads here on Airforums since '08.

Pop Quiz: What has our playa address been over the years?
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We joined the Airstreameri when the camp was at 2:15 and Babylon, I believe.
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Thank you all for everyones wisdom concerning my white picket fence. Home depot has these 4 by 4 post holders and they will do zero trace of damage on the playa.
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