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07-04-2010, 07:10 AM
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Roadtrain O--O~(--ooo--)
2000 34' Limited
1979 31' Excella 500
Miamisburg
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 145
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Perry, fabulous job of "git'er done" and securing a place on the playa for the group. Now the next big question- What does everyone need to bring? extra chairs? shade structure for the lecture area? etc I believe you requested some rum for your lecture -that always encourages the discussions!
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'12 3500HD, 4x4 LBZ D/A CC LB
AIR #12881
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07-04-2010, 08:18 AM
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Head Animal Wrangler
2010 19' International
2015 Interstate Ext. Coach
Los Osos
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,696
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Nice location!
Thanks Perry.
The Bam Lounge will be fully stocked with refreshments for thirsty Geolostreamers.
Nothing creates a powerful thirst more than a dusty lecture on dust.
Happy 4th of Juplaya.
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Rally on,
Bam
and no, those photos are not me.
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07-04-2010, 11:47 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
Menlo Park
, California
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,269
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Does anyone have any suggestions about shade modifications for Airstreams at Burning Man?
Is is possible/advisable to add shade cloth sides to a ZipDee awning?
Should one set up a free standing shade structure instead and not rig directly to the Airstream?
Could a PVC/parachute spider leg style dome over the trailer be made stiff enough that it won't batter the aluminum in high winds?
Would one want to shelter the whole trailer or would a structure on the side be sufficient?
What's a good material to keep out the sun but let some air through?
Thoughts/ideas?
This will be our first Burn with the Tin Pickle. We've done monkey huts over tables and tents in the past. We'll be using the Pickle for sleeping and some cooking and some showers, but plan on living outside much of the time. Why spend Burning Man closed up in a can, after all?
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07-04-2010, 01:11 PM
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#124
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Rivet Master
1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Palmer Lake
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,092
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Quote:
Originally Posted by webspinner
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Is is possible/advisable to add shade cloth sides to a ZipDee awning?
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Yes, others have done it, using an open weave nylon that resembles a net more than cloth. But you better have a good frame at the bottom and strong tiedowns.
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Originally Posted by webspinner
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I used a 10x10 canopy a couple years ago and tied it down well enough to survive the dust storms. But it had no sides.
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Originally Posted by webspinner
...Could a PVC/parachute spider leg style dome over the trailer be made stiff enough that it won't batter the aluminum in high winds?
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I doubt you can tie down a large shade structure well enough. Obviously, it can be done--people set up 12x30' tents and they survive. You really have to be prepared to bring 36" rebar and then be able to pull it out when you leave.
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Originally Posted by webspinner
...Would one want to shelter the whole trailer or would a structure on the side be sufficient?
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Something on the side would take less time to set up, less time to take down, and you woudn't bite your nails off worrying about your Airstream. I had a vintage awning (poles and ropes) installed in the awning rail and it survived the dust storms, but the flapping was pretty awesome.
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Originally Posted by webspinner
...What's a good material to keep out the sun but let some air through?
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That open weave coarse nylon that you see on some beach chairs would be my pick.
The bottom line is, you only need a small area of shade--unless you're planning on all of us being next to your Airstream, of course. Keep it simple your first time.
Zep
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07-04-2010, 03:40 PM
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#125
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Charlyf
2008 20' Safari SE
Carmel Valley
, California
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 31
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I built a shade structure for 2008 BM big enough to cover my trailer. It did not fall down. However it moved so much that no one wanted to be near it.
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07-05-2010, 12:55 AM
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#126
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
Menlo Park
, California
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,269
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeppelinium
The bottom line is, you only need a small area of shade--unless you're planning on all of us being next to your Airstream, of course. Keep it simple your first time.
Zep
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Space for sociability is always good! Come on by and have a beer!
Thanks so much for the pointers. We'll likely have a table outside so that the eaters can eat without waking the sleepers. Doing so in comfort without blocking the AS with a monkey hut will be the challenge.
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07-08-2010, 11:23 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1994 30' Excella
St Petersburg
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 42
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Location, location, location....
Nice job on getting a theme camp!!! Attached is this years map. Good access to the Playa as well as the Petting Zoo...and Opulent Temple...
Hope to see everyone there.
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07-08-2010, 12:00 PM
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#128
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Richard77
1959 24' Tradewind
Currently Looking...
eckert
, Colorado and Mexico
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 94
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Quote:
Good access to the Playa as well as the Petting Zoo...and Opulent Temple...
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I have to find away to Burning man now! My favorite place! - Opulent Temple
A 10 sq easy up survived BM 2008 tied down at the corners to J shape rebar 24'' long. I used landscaping cloth for 2 sides held with bungie cord in case they needed quick removal.Landscaping fabric is cheap, durable, lets wind pass thru and lightweight.
Idea - create a 3 times life size airstream, say 60 x 22 feet. placed on a 8' ht base ( scaffolding) The 3x airstream could be made from reflective mylar ( plastic film/sheet) and mylar tape or maybe foil insulation. I have used mylar for an air structure previously) The 3x AS would be an air structure ( balloon). It would require a continous fan, and generater. A 36'' fan should be large enough. This 3x Airstream would be the mothership, providing community space and shade. We could even run 12'' flexible duct to each airstream, umbilical cords from the mother ship. If a very severe wind storm develops, unplug the fan, but built right, it should just sway even in severe winds. Oh wait. I have lots of ideas, but no money! I can draw this up if anyone is interested and has a funding source.
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07-10-2010, 03:00 PM
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#129
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Rivet Master
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1961 16' Bambi
Oakland
, California
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 758
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Playa Conditions
Hello fellow 'Streaming Burners!
We just got back recently from Fourth of Juplaya (Murray was the chef at the Feed the Artists camp, www.feedtheartists.net/) and are happy to report that the playa seems perfect-hard and dry, where we were camped off of the 12 mile entrance. 8 mile also looked good, 3 mile was still a little soft.
That's us below, on the third of Juplaya, taken above Black Rock Hot Springs (way too hot to skin dip, but Frog Pond and Trego were perfect) on the high dry playa.
We'll look forward to seeing you on the Playa!
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07-10-2010, 06:04 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Excella 500
Genoa
, Nevada
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yhottys
Hello fellow 'Streaming Burners!
We just got back recently from Fourth of Juplaya (Murray was the chef at the Feed the Artists camp, www.feedtheartists.net/) and are happy to report that the playa seems perfect-hard and dry, where we were camped off of the 12 mile entrance. 8 mile also looked good, 3 mile was still a little soft.
That's us below, on the third of Juplaya, taken above Black Rock Hot Springs (way too hot to skin dip, but Frog Pond and Trego were perfect) on the high dry playa.
We'll look forward to seeing you on the Playa!
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Does this mean we have another chef in our camp? Mark P sure makes some fine dishes.
Seems everyone I know was out at 4th of July JuPlaya, but I didnt know anybody I saw out there.
I was just trying to help Gary, another geologist friend of mine log on here to register as one of the tenters, this site doesn't seem to like his computer or something. It wouldn't let me log on here on his computer either.
See everybody soon on playa!
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07-11-2010, 01:11 AM
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Maniacal Engineer
1971 25' Tradewind
Lopez Island
, Washington
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,244
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Mmmm Hard playa surface again - wonderful. Much nicer for getting around on bikes or the art car....
Thanks for the update!
= Bart
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07-11-2010, 10:12 AM
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Tramp Streamer
Commercial Member
1995 28' Excella
Artist
, at Large
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,002
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Perry, "You've done a Man's job sir."
Shouts out to the placement team of Shadow&Blackjack !
Super great placement
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07-12-2010, 07:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Excella 500
Genoa
, Nevada
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,554
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Everybody get your dancing gear and get practices up! Actually, we denied this in DMV processing for TOO MUCH NOISE, like its got 10kwatts of sound:
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Airforums 22655 and now, WBCCI 22655
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07-12-2010, 07:36 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Excella 500
Genoa
, Nevada
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richard77
I have to find away to Burning man now! My favorite place! - Opulent Temple
A 10 sq easy up survived BM 2008 tied down at the corners to J shape rebar 24'' long. I used landscaping cloth for 2 sides held with bungie cord in case they needed quick removal.Landscaping fabric is cheap, durable, lets wind pass thru and lightweight.
Idea - create a 3 times life size airstream, say 60 x 22 feet. placed on a 8' ht base ( scaffolding) The 3x airstream could be made from reflective mylar ( plastic film/sheet) and mylar tape or maybe foil insulation. I have used mylar for an air structure previously) The 3x AS would be an air structure ( balloon). It would require a continous fan, and generater. A 36'' fan should be large enough. This 3x Airstream would be the mothership, providing community space and shade. We could even run 12'' flexible duct to each airstream, umbilical cords from the mother ship. If a very severe wind storm develops, unplug the fan, but built right, it should just sway even in severe winds. Oh wait. I have lots of ideas, but no money! I can draw this up if anyone is interested and has a funding source.
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Richard, we all have lots and lots of ideas and no funding sources, but we'd rather see your effort on getting yourself on playa though.
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Airforums 22655 and now, WBCCI 22655
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07-12-2010, 07:40 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,177
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NevadaGeo
Everybody get your dancing gear and get practices up! Actually, we denied this in DMV processing for TOO MUCH NOISE, like its got 10kwatts of sound:
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Thanks NGO, I needed to hear something from home, and that was it.
Rich the Viking
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07-12-2010, 07:40 PM
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#136
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Richard77
1959 24' Tradewind
Currently Looking...
eckert
, Colorado and Mexico
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 94
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I'm trying!!!! Things are really slow here, not much work.
ZG Design: Home: Zazzle.com Store
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07-13-2010, 04:41 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1994 30' Excella
St Petersburg
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 42
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Summer camp
Be back soon....
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07-14-2010, 06:15 AM
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#138
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Roadtrain O--O~(--ooo--)
2000 34' Limited
1979 31' Excella 500
Miamisburg
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 145
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NevadaGeo
Richard, we all have lots and lots of ideas and no funding sources, but we'd rather see your effort on getting yourself on playa though.
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Richard, This is Summer-you can't miss this year! Look for some one to ride share-you could use another good hitchhiker story! LOL
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'12 3500HD, 4x4 LBZ D/A CC LB
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07-14-2010, 06:44 AM
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Richard77
1959 24' Tradewind
Currently Looking...
eckert
, Colorado and Mexico
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 94
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Hey Summer! Maybe YOU could use another wacko hitchhiker story, but I've had my share LOL. Actually, a group of 4 of us plan to come, but getting nervous about them committing. Anyhow, it will work out somehow.
Geo - Thanks for securing a Great ! location!
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07-14-2010, 06:31 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1958 26' Overlander
tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 33
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Sorry, don't mean to seem too dense, but I can't tell what the theme is. Is it Babylon? Chollabill
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