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Buttercup · 01-27-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverhobby

My question is about the AS itself? Does the sand (windstorms) do any damage to the finish of the trailer's exterior? Are there any facilities such as showers available? Also, no grey water on the ground, correct? Thanks in advance.

Well, not really. The dust is so fine that it does nothing. But it does get everywhere. It is slightly alkali and some have suggested that washing your trailer with something like oxalic acid will help neutralize that without damaging the finish. A small amount of citric acid would also work - weakly diluted in your soapy water.
The dust gets everywhere and into everything. So that is something you have to be prepared for.
The concept of Burning Man involves radical self reliance and also Leave no Trace. So as for showers, if you don't bring it out, you may not get to use it. The only facilities available are the Porta Potties. I have used a portable shower tent and a bucket of sun warmed water before. Then you have to haul away or find a way to evaporate that water. But basically, you pack it in, you pack it out.
The only things you can buy out there is Ice and Coffee.

VIKING · 01-27-2009, 02:27 PM

Zep, please unload your unused tickets if that happens to you again. Craigslist is awesome for that, and we heard of some people buying tickets on thursday and friday the week of the event just to come for a day or two.
Silverhobby, there is lots of info on burningman.com about how to get by for the week. read the survival guide and heloise of the playa for very good info. the "sand" at Blackrock City is actually very fine particles, more like flour than sand. It is mildly abrasive, but only causes scratches if you wipe it or lean against it. I would suggest not trying to remove any of the dust until you have access to a carwash brush and some vinegar. The vinegar changes the acidity of the dust and helps get it off of the surface with minimal brushing. I plan on making some kind of mudroom to keep the dust out of my Safari, as much as possible. Grey water can be left in a evaporation pan to evap during the day. That is pretty standard there.
Leave no mark.
Thanks, Rich

JulianneJ · 01-27-2009, 02:55 PM

I've camped with Tuna Guys @ BM. They rock, great group. Darrell and his barbie doll collection and flame boxer shorts, doesn't get better than that! Sushi on the Playa is a real treat.

Oh no Dogs! I burned nearly ten years and always left the furbabies at home. Not an enviroment for them at all. Besides who would want the responsibilty of pooches when the party never stops.

VIKING · 01-27-2009, 03:21 PM

Greetings, JulianneJ
Have you gone for a ride on The Tuna Boat? Cap'n Rick is the best!
"BURN THE MAN, NOT THE FISH"
Lost Boy/ Safety Clown (Rich)

JulianneJ · 01-27-2009, 03:44 PM

Viking~ Hell yes, the Tuna boat is the only way to do an ice run! Cruise up to the back door, score ice and float home!

BamCamper · 01-27-2009, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverhobby

My question is about the AS itself? Does the sand (windstorms) do any damage to the finish of the trailer's exterior? Are there any facilities such as showers available? Also, no grey water on the ground, correct? Thanks in advance.

No damage to the Airstream. I just wash mine in the usual way when I get home.
I take out all the extra stuff and cover the upholstery. And put some mats on the floor to absorb foot dust. That's about it.

And yes no grey water or anything else can hit the playa. If you want a shower you must bring one though some people have outdoor showers that they will let others use. No water is available there so you must bring all that you need for drinking and washing.

No trash cans so you must pack out everything you bring in including garbage.

Silverhobby · 01-28-2009, 08:11 AM

Thanks for the replies. I can deal with the dust. The trailer can be cleaned after the event. As for evaporation the grey, I'll study that a while longer. I do understand the pack it "in" and "out" rules.
Another thought, why not "fix" a way to flush your toilet with the used grey water? I might have to get busy devising a few valves and a pump.

markparker22 · 01-28-2009, 10:03 AM

My preference for our 2nd annual Burning Man rally would be to follow the same model we had last year, i.e., not a theme camp. To qualify as a theme camp takes a lot of organization and administrative and creative support. We could rally again in the same manner. If individual burners wanted to create "activities" for the group and random passers-by they could. A list of informal activities could be posted on a sign up list on the rally thread that ARTSTREAM should be posting today. Comments?

Rick T · 01-28-2009, 12:19 PM

I agree with Mark. Seems like a theme camp is a lot of effort. Lets just go and camp together and have fun.

BamCamper · 01-29-2009, 08:23 AM

Yep.
That's my preference too.
It worked well last year.

Cstar · 02-01-2009, 09:03 AM

Hey Richard. Save us a spot next to you again.

Claudia says she will bring the hammered dulcimer and give free lessons. We are planning a swing through Las Vegas and the Winfield Kansas Music Festival after the Burn.

Let's keep it simple. Last years improv was too much fun. We can't wait to repeat.

Corky and Claudia

richard77 · 02-01-2009, 09:31 AM

Hey C&C ! Great pic of you guys! I'm bringing the Tradewind this year and would look forward to being next to you guys again ( Just don't rent out your chairs again LOL) . Hopefully, Dani and Red will be on my other side LOL. I'm voting for an unoffical theme camp, sugar cookies , bar b q twinkes, music lessons, buckets of curry etc, we can change up daily. Pot luck dinners were great and hope we can do more of them.
I'd like to caravan down to Vegas with you guys ( from BM to Vegas, wow, what a change of lifestyle) as I will be full timing then.
Meeting at the Desert Rose before and after worked out perfect, something to keep in mind for this year. Or, Mark, I'm available and willing to go in early to help set up.

Cstar · 02-01-2009, 10:22 AM

Thanks, wasn't so sure you would recognize Corky!

Meeting at the Desert Rose is what we had in mind, we plan to get there late afternoon Saturday the 29th. Plus we plan to regroup there after the burn. It takes a day to get to LV, assuming you don't spend too much time at the brothels on the way.

We will probably be in Vegas for four days leaving on Sunday the 13th. You are more than welcome to tag along. That would be a hoot! Surely we can create some havoc in sin city.

We may stay for the temple burn this year.

We won't be full timing but we are going to be out over a month or so. Don't try to make us jealous already!

Corky and Claudia

PS the chairs are staying home, Claudia doesn't like the competition!

Zeppelinium · 02-01-2009, 10:51 AM

Where's the Desert Rose?

I may be coming from Bend instead of Colorado, so it may not make sense for me.

Dr. Quark (aka Zep on the rest of the Forum)

richard77 · 02-01-2009, 11:11 AM

Vegas sounds great as long as Corky doesn't wear that outfit LOL

Zep - Desert Rose RV Park is in Fernley, NV. Great place with huge private bathrooms! Large pull thrus, full hook ups and a helpful staff. Reasonably priced. Burner friendly, just don't fill their dumpsters with your trash from BM. It is near Wally world, shopping centers and the town of Fernley, making it conveinent for stocking up and getting last minute supplies ( batteries, flashlights etc) To Black Rock Canyon, BM, I think it took an hour and a half caravaning. Desert Rose

ArtStream · 02-02-2009, 07:36 PM

Well it was only a matter of time…
and it is time again...

The Second Annual
AIRSTREAM FORUM
BURNING MAN RALLY

With a returning cast featuring many of your favorite Airforum characters!

Where: Black rock City, Navada
When: Week leading up to Labor Day (08-31-09 to 09-07-09)or any part of the week.
Event Info: The Burning Man Project :: Welcome Home
Cost: The price of a Burning Man ticket

Never been to Burning Man

Curious about the Burning Man Festival

Don't know what the Burning Man Festival is

Daunted at the thought of going it alone

This is Air Forum member's opportunity to hang with experienced Airstream burners.

This will be a loose grouping of like minded Airstreamers.

At this stage no Pot Lucks or organized events are scheduled.

But, "what is Burning man", Trying to explain what Burning Man is to someone who has never been to the event is a bit like trying to explain what RED looks like to the blind.

Your best bet will be to visit the Burning Man web site at:

BURNING MAN

This event is not for everyone

Experienced forum burners please chime in.

Michael aka ArtStream

Go to the RALLY SIGN-UP PAGE >>>>>

BamCamper · 02-09-2009, 10:32 AM

Hey Michael...where are you on the sign up page? And Paul?

We need your smiling faces on the playa.

ArtStream · 02-09-2009, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtStream

Well it was only a matter of time…

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtStream

and it is time again...

The Second Annual
AIRSTREAM FORUM
BURNING MAN RALLY

With a returning cast featuring many of your favorite Airforum characters!

Where: Black rock City, Navada
When: Week leading up to Labor Day (08-31-09 to 09-07-09)or any part of the week.
Event Info: The Burning Man Project :: Welcome Home
Cost: The price of a Burning Man ticket
Never been to Burning Man

Curious about the Burning Man Festival

Don't know what the Burning Man Festival is

Daunted at the thought of going it alone

This is Air Forum member's opportunity to hang with experienced Airstream burners.

This will be a loose grouping of like minded Airstreamers.

At this stage no Pot Lucks or organized events are scheduled.

But, "what is Burning man", Trying to explain what Burning Man is to someone who has never been to the event is a bit like trying to explain what RED looks like to the blind.

Your best bet will be to visit the Burning Man web site at:

BURNING MAN

This event is not for everyone

Experienced forum burners please chime in.

Michael aka ArtStream

Go to the RALLY SIGN-UP PAGE >>>>>

Hi Bam,

Squeezed this post in last week.

Sign-up, line-up and take off your shoes

BamCamper · 02-09-2009, 04:41 PM

Well I came, I saw,
I lined up and signed up,
but didn't see YOU there...
???

ArtStream · 02-09-2009, 06:08 PM

I'm in some kind of alternate Ariforums??????
If I log in and go to the signup page I only see myself signed up for the rally, it says there is (1) person signed up for the rally?

If I do not sign in and view the rally page I see everyone else and NOT myself?

What gives?????