Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-29-2006, 07:14 PM   #15
2 Rivet Member
 
Austin , Central Texas
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 37
Fridge pilot goes out

On a recent trip, I tried running with the frig on gas. When I stopped, the pilot light had gone out. I've read mixed items about this. Any suggestions on a fix?
__________________

__________________
FlyFishInn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2006, 07:41 PM   #16
Rivet Master
 
1960 24' Tradewind
santa barbara , California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,352
hello FlyFishInn,

Look on the forums for Lew Farber under the appliances forum threads ,
as he looks like the man who would know.That being said ,some peoples fridges don't stay lit unless the fridge stays level .

Scott
__________________

__________________
scottanlily is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2006, 11:26 PM   #17
Rivet Master
 
ROBERTSUNRUS's Avatar

 
2005 25' Safari
Salem , Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,266
Images: 18
Blog Entries: 51
Hi, I also drive with the refrigerator running on propane. Before leaving the house, I run the refrigerator on 110 v and as soon as I'm ready to hit the road I unplug the power line and my refrigerator automatically switches to gas. When I reach a camp ground with hook ups it switches back to 110v. My refrigerator and gas fill are on the same side, street side, but not that close together. Not that this is right, but I feel alot safer than the person at the other pump with a cigarette in his mouth while pumping. By the way, most gas station fires are caused by women, not trailers.

Bob
__________________
ROBERTSUNRUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2006, 01:24 PM   #18
1 Rivet Member
 
1989 25' Excella
Seaforth , Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 7
jwalton

We run with the fridge lit also. and I seldom worry about the chance of fire caused by the open flame, because the trailer is usually well away from the refueling ....

However there is a chance that a large spill at the pumps right when you're filling could be set alight by your fridge flame. Normally the few fumes generated during refueling the tow vehicle are heavy and fall to the ground, well below the level of the fridge. It's not so much that the trailer will explode, as it is that you may ignite the fuel around you.

Travelling with the tanks open poses less of a risk these days with the high flow check valve in the proane tank. Non-the-less a broken fuel line may feed just enough fule to keep a fire going.

For anyone having trouble lighting their fridge after a lengthy shut down, we also have the problem but I found that lighting the hot water heater clears the line of air because it uses more fuel. On our unit the water heater is the last fuel user. I've also lit the stove for a few seconds with similar effectiveness.
__________________
jwalton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2006, 09:08 PM   #19
Rivet Master
 
1960 24' Tradewind
santa barbara , California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,352
Hello ROBERTSUNRUS,

Interestingly you have a point (easy ladies ) a woman will usually put in the gas filler into the vehical ,then go back into the vehical and close the door .
Then when the pump shuts off ,she will get out and reach for the fill nozzel
and a static charge from her body built up from entering and exiting the car
causes a static buildup that discharges to the nozzel and susequently ignites
the fumes from the gas ,this has been documented as a common occurrence
and is the real deal .Guys as I know it never go back and sit in the car and wait,so thats the story.In any event ,unless it has happened ,I don't see
a fridge pilot igniting gas station fumes in an outside area as a possibility
anyway ,the fumes would have to build up a concentrated amount to become
an explosion ,such as cleaning with gasoline in a closed garage and the water
heater pilot causes an explosion ,that absolutly has happened.Leaded gas was great at cleaning car parts and such and those vapors lay low on the
floor such as LP does ,so the water heater pilot is in the right area to cause
an explosion. The fridge is inside the trailer ,the door is closed ,gas is not going into anyones trailer ,is it ? Unless someone had some terrible accident
in this scenario ,for some reason I would not worry about it .

Scott
__________________
scottanlily is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2006, 09:15 PM   #20
Rivet Master
 
1960 24' Tradewind
santa barbara , California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,352
To j walton ,hello

you are right about the fridge being higher than the ground and the gas
will not ignite unless you toss a cigarette on it ,or a match.The gas vapors
as I posted are outside in the air blowing around .I mean think of all the vehicals driving in and out of the station ,idiots smoking (stupid) and hot engines ,exhaust and so on .Most of us would not drive up into a fresh
runoff of lost gasoline anyway.

Scott
__________________
scottanlily is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2006, 10:17 PM   #21
Rivet Master
 
ROBERTSUNRUS's Avatar

 
2005 25' Safari
Salem , Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,266
Images: 18
Blog Entries: 51
Scott, You are so sharp! Osha has been investigateing this and with video cameras rolling actually caught this on tape. We saw this tape at our work place safety meeting. I'm also safety manager at work. Men usually get out of the vehicle to refuel and return when done. Women, not all, but many of them start pumping the fuel and return to the vehicle once, twice, several times generating static electricity and then back to the nozzle. BOOOOM
10 Points for Scott. I actually thought I would get a lot of "Static" from the "Women" before someone caught on to this. Thanks Scott.

Bob
__________________
ROBERTSUNRUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2006, 11:03 PM   #22
Rivet Master
 
1960 24' Tradewind
santa barbara , California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,352
I saw it coming so I had to jump in and save you Bob.If any one sees that tape they will be shocked !!!as too how fast it can happen.


Scott
__________________
scottanlily is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 07:40 AM   #23
3 Rivet Member
 
1972 29' Ambassador
1968 22' Safari
Tyler , Texas
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 116
Make a "miner's lamp" to protect yourself

A small screen mesh cage placed around the refer flame will act the way a miner's lamp does, preventing the possibility of fumes hitting the flame and causing an explosion. The reason this works is that the mesh draws the heat away from the gas and prevents the flame from heating it to its flash point. You can remove the screen when you need to light the flame.

By the way, this also helps keep wind from blowing the flame out, much the way the perforated shield on a Zippo lighter does.
__________________
26.982 amu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 09:59 AM   #24
Rivet Master
 
wheel interested's Avatar
 
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer , Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,039
Lots of good tips here on relighting and the miners lamp fix. I am feeling comfortable with leaving the fridge on now. But I could have caught on fire(?) putting my charge card back in the truck, and gathering up the trash, etc. while filling up?!!! I did hear woman blow up from static, I had forgotten, or thought that was an attitude.
__________________
Caroljb



photography
wheel interested is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 09:26 PM   #25
Rivet Master
 
1960 24' Tradewind
santa barbara , California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,352
Wheel interested ,

Women wear nylons and that really juices up the static on cloth seats .They
will sit back down ,then slide back out of the seat .If you are at all worried
just put your hand on the truck first then reach for the nozzel ,the static ,
if any will expell as your hand contacts the metal .Incidently that is why those red plastic gas cans must be placed on the ground when filling them ,
also static charge can ignite it ,if its in the bed of the truck.I do the trash
removal thing but fill the gas first and hold the nozzel in the fill neck till
I am done filling the tank.I don't like to walk away from the filler when its pumping .

Scott
__________________
scottanlily is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2006, 05:57 PM   #26
Moderator dude
 
Action's Avatar

 
1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix , Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,066
Images: 13
I do not run with the lp on. Both tank valves off.

The things that need to be chilled are in a cooler with ice. My refer is so old I would be afraid that the fire would go out and the trailer would fill with propane. Not sure if I ever used the propane on the refer either. Usually I plug in and the 40 YO refer works well on 120v.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Action
__________________
1966 Mercury Park Lane 4 DR Breezeway 410 4V, C-6, 2.80 - Streamless.
1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
Action is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2006, 07:53 PM   #27
Rivet Master
 
2006 30' Classic
Farmington , New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 822
Images: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyFishInn
On a recent trip, I tried running with the frig on gas. When I stopped, the pilot light had gone out. I've read mixed items about this. Any suggestions on a fix?
Fly---I had some trouble with this several times and have a fix,at least it worked for me. I mounted a furnace filter on the inside of the louverd door outside the refer. I measured the inside of this door then found a filter that was aprox this size and mounted it to the door with small elastic straps. When we travel I attach the filter inside the door. It allows enough air for the fridg. to operate but restricts the gust that come from passing vehicles.
pieman
__________________
Mike Lewis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2006, 10:11 PM   #28
Rivet Master
 
dscluchfc's Avatar
 
1984 31' Excella
Abernathy , Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 849
I run with mine on.
How am I gonna keep my Blue Bell Mint Chocolate ice cream frozen if I don't??
__________________

__________________
David
TAC # TX-18

AIR # 410
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dsphotoscapes
dscluchfc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
where to buy new aluminum lp tanks.. JohnGalt48 LP Gas, Piping, Tanks & Regulators 3 09-14-2002 11:36 PM
LP Tanks Craig LP Gas, Piping, Tanks & Regulators 6 08-22-2002 09:43 AM
believer in aluminum tanks! JohnGalt48 On The Road... 7 08-15-2002 06:49 PM
Aluminum Tanks uwe 1970-79 Tradewind 2 07-17-2002 02:56 PM
Propane Tanks - New OPD Needed? montanaandy LP Gas, Piping, Tanks & Regulators 18 06-17-2002 01:11 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.