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Old 07-04-2006, 10:36 AM   #1
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Toilet won't budge

Hey guys,

I'm trying to remove the toilet from the trailer. The bowl was held on with duct tape and a clamp

All I have left now is the metal base screwed down to the floor. I removed the two rusty screws that you can see in the base in the photo.

However, the metal base won't budge. I cannot get it to lift or twist. I don't see any other access plates to remove to get to any hidden screws.

When I pry hard on the base with my wonder bar, I can see the entire tank in the vainity going up and down with the action. I don't want to bust the top of the tank.

Any ideas how to remove this?
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Old 07-04-2006, 10:43 AM   #2
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The top of the tank's inlet port is cast iron and probably really rusted. I know mine was and I ended up breaking the pedestal, not my original plan. If you can get some penetrating oil or something similar in there and let it sit for awhile, you might just be able to unscrew the base. BTW - the clamp should say SaniWare on it and it is original. I doubt the duct tape is.

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Old 07-04-2006, 11:24 AM   #3
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Hey Brad,

I got the screws out. They look like wood screws to me.

I cannot find any other screws holding the base down. Or any access plates that would hide other screws.

Were there any other screws besides these two holding the toilet to the tank?
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:52 AM   #4
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Hey Brad,

I got the screws out. They look like wood screws to me.

I cannot find any other screws holding the base down. Or any access plates that would hide other screws.

Were there any other screws besides these two holding the toilet to the tank?
On ours, the base unscrewed from the closet flange at the top of the black tank. Try twisting the base counterclockwise, like you are unscrewing a bolt.
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Yeah, what Terry said. That's how its suppose to come out. I'm sure its really stuck in there. Are you planning on taking out the black water tanks? If so, it might be advisable to take the box that the toilet sits on apart with the pedestal still attached to the tank.

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Old 07-04-2006, 01:46 PM   #6
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Yes, I'm planning to take the whole tank out as well.

I'll give it a shot. I soaked in the base with kroil a couple of hours ago.

Wish me luck! ;-)
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Old 07-04-2006, 05:18 PM   #7
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Yes, I'm planning to take the whole tank out as well.

I'll give it a shot. I soaked in the base with kroil a couple of hours ago.

Wish me luck! ;-)
Chisel the old metal floor flange out in pieces.

You will never want to use it over again.

Replace it with a plastic floor flange.

That's how a dealer would do it.

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Are you saying chisel it out AFTER I get the toilet out?

The problem I am having is breaking the toilet free first.

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Chisel the old metal floor flange out in pieces.

You will never want to use it over again.

Replace it with a plastic floor flange.

That's how a dealer would do it.

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Old 07-04-2006, 06:07 PM   #9
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Hey Safari Tim ,

Looks like your doing the whole replacement after all .Some people really
used to be interested in saving that base for a correct (as it were) restoration,but ,then now I don't think the original base is that important.
I could be wrong ,someone might really want the whole toilet intact.
Well good luck on the removal ,you may find that andys idea will hold true
they seem to break anyway when removing .Those threads will be really
corroded to the metal base ,don't want to think about that .

Good luck

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One other thought tim is the floor board has a hole in it for the threaded
fiiting the toilet threads onto so you can't remove the floor around the toilet without the toilet and base pedestle being removed first.Mine is like yours and I replaced that whole box assembly with new .

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Yep. I basically stuck right now. I have the vanity loose and the wood riser for the toilet loose. But without the toilet off I'm stuck.

Everything hinges on getting that toilet base off.

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One other thought tim is the floor board has a hole in it for the threaded
fiiting the toilet threads onto so you can't remove the floor around the toilet without the toilet and base pedestle being removed first.Mine is like yours and I replaced that whole box assembly with new .

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Old 07-04-2006, 06:41 PM   #12
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Hey tim
I have used PB Blaster spray penetrent ,really works well ,Same approach
as kroil ,it has a capilary action and will penetrate ,takes some time .
It,s a maybe ,but worth trying ,getting in the area it needs to free is the
trick.

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Hi Tim,

What happenned to your 1971 Safari? Hope you can get that toilet out. Lots of luck with your new rig.

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Hi Larry,

We sold it on ebay a couple of months ago. Family out grew the 23'.

So now we have 28' to work with but I have to do all the repairs all over again

I've been told it must be ready to camp in by next season!


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What happenned to your 1971 Safari? Hope you can get that toilet out. Lots of luck with your new rig.

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