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04-11-2007, 06:55 PM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
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Originally Posted by Squishey
And would that same sensor run the outside temperature gauge also on the control panel??
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Nope two totally different sensors.
Aaron
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07-10-2007, 05:02 PM
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Devils Lake
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What in the world makes aluminum tanks worth more than 5 times the steel ones? Is it just for looks?? Weights a non issue as it re-cert requirements so it has to be a vanity thing.
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07-10-2007, 05:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundance
What in the world makes aluminum tanks worth more than 5 times the steel ones? Is it just for looks?? Weights a non issue as it re-cert requirements so it has to be a vanity thing.
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Sundance,
Weight is an issue, the aluminum tanks weigh less than a steel tank. Aluminum tanks don't rust and our trailers last much longer than SOBs. My newest Airstream is 28 years old with the original aluminum tanks, I am not sure that if the tanks were steel that they would still be safe. FYI, new Airstreams come with steel tanks.
Bill
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1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
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07-10-2007, 05:20 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Devils Lake
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hey Bill..........
My 73' Argosy still have the stock original steel tanks and they look great.
I'm going ahead and installing OPD's and re-cert if I can't sneak them by the refill :-)
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07-10-2007, 06:18 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Campton
, New Hampshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundance
hey Bill..........
My 73' Argosy still have the stock original steel tanks and they look great.
I'm going ahead and installing OPD's and re-cert if I can't sneak them by the refill :-)
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Steel tanks rust on the inside also and you wont know it. Most places do not want to recertify steel tanks.
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07-10-2007, 06:24 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Caravanner
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Campton
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Originally Posted by steptex
So far I have been told in Texas and New Mexico at various propane dealers that there isn't a new OPD valve that will fit the horizontal aluminum tanks. They just want to slap a sticker on it saying it is safe, but my valve threads are wearing down anyway and I need to replace them. Right now I am at American RV part located at Anthony, Texas. Does anybody know of a propane dealer in West Texas or Southern New Mexico that could replace them for me? I am getting tired of the run around. Thanks,
Stephen
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Different regulations for horizontal tanks , I don't think they have an OPD valve for them . Check with a place that handles gases for welding and medical use they may know better. Or a Forklift dealer.
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07-10-2007, 06:42 PM
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My 06 classic has aluminum tanks. I beleive the safari's have steel.
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07-10-2007, 06:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thecatsandi
My 06 classic has aluminum tanks. I beleive the safari's have steel.
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It was a Safari that I looked at with the steel tanks.
Bill
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07-12-2007, 02:04 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Devils Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundance
What in the world makes aluminum tanks worth more than 5 times the steel ones? Is it just for looks?? Weights a non issue as it re-cert requirements so it has to be a vanity thing.
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Well where is the crow???? The "steel" tanks that I thought were excellent with zero rust turned out to be.................. You guessed it. Aluminum!!
Yee Haa
Now I have changed my opinion and aluminum is well worth 5 times the cost of steel.
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07-12-2007, 02:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Campton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundance
Well where is the crow???? The "steel" tanks that I thought were excellent with zero rust turned out to be.................. You guessed it. Aluminum!!
Yee Haa
Now I have changed my opinion and aluminum is well worth 5 times the cost of steel.
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07-13-2007, 08:29 AM
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More than one rivet loose
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Los Alamos
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I have a pair of 30# tanks for sale. Located in eastern Oregon. I upgraded to 40#s.
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08-09-2007, 08:02 AM
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On the tank issue....what is the cost to have new valves put on aluminum?? We replaced ours with steel when our local guys wouldn't refill them. I think they're 30 lbs, at least whatever would normally be on a 27 ft overlander... they're bigger than a grill tank and in good shape. Just wondered on the cost of the new valves. We haven't decided what to do with them yet, but we still have them.
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08-09-2007, 08:22 AM
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1963 26' Overlander
Montreal
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsltootsie
On the tank issue....what is the cost to have new valves put on aluminum?? We replaced ours with steel when our local guys wouldn't refill them. I think they're 30 lbs, at least whatever would normally be on a 27 ft overlander... they're bigger than a grill tank and in good shape. Just wondered on the cost of the new valves. We haven't decided what to do with them yet, but we still have them.
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It's about, as already said, and from my recent experience, 45$us (60$can).
Mine were done the same day. Brought them in in the morning got them back before 4 PM.
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08-09-2007, 08:40 AM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Campton
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I paid $40 for the 2 valves and another $50 to install , re-certify , and fill both tanks . This was done at a local gas supplier who also sells appliances .
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08-09-2007, 10:36 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Devils Lake
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I got my OPD valves off ebay for $29 for the pair. Solid brass and nice valves.
I installed them myself (easy) and the local propane dealer recertified them for free when I filled them. The valves I got already had the blue tread seal on them and were ready to go.
I decided to just paint them white again. Less possibility of theft now that I know they are spendy rascals.
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08-09-2007, 10:38 AM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundance
I got my OPD valves off ebay for $29 for the pair. Solid brass and nice valves.
I installed them myself (easy) and the local propane dealer recertified them for free when I filled them. The valves I got already had the blue tread seal on them and were ready to go.
I decided to just paint them white again. Less possibility of theft now that I know they are spendy rascals.
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Sundance,
Aluminum tanks take a different valve than steel tanks because the profile of the tank is different. I hope you purchased the valves for aluminum and not steel tanks.
Bill
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08-09-2007, 07:47 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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hmmm. Not too pricey. I bet my husband paid more for new steel ones! (then we painted them silver!)
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08-16-2007, 06:02 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Devils Lake
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Bill,
I had no idea there were different valves for aluminium. The supplier did not indicate this. After looking up some info I see the only difference is the dip tube length. Steel is 4.8" and aluminium is 6".
I can't think of any real safety issue. Having never had a problem with Non-OPD valves this has to be at least safer than the old valves???
All the suppliers I know of and have used fill by weight..... so the OPD valve is overkill for me.
It works..... That said. Thanks for the info. Had I to do it over again I would get the "correct" valve.
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08-16-2007, 10:54 AM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundance
Bill,
I had no idea there were different valves for aluminium. The supplier did not indicate this. After looking up some info I see the only difference is the dip tube length. Steel is 4.8" and aluminium is 6".
I can't think of any real safety issue. Having never had a problem with Non-OPD valves this has to be at least safer than the old valves???
All the suppliers I know of and have used fill by weight..... so the OPD valve is overkill for me.
It works..... That said. Thanks for the info. Had I to do it over again I would get the "correct" valve.
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Sundance,
The difference is the length of the dip tube, this is because the aluminum tanks have a different profile than the steel tanks. If you always fill by weight, do you start with a completely empty tank or do you know the gross weight of a full aluminum tank, which will be less than a full tank?
Since the length of the steel valve is less than for an aluminum tank, if the filler uses the OPD valve as a shut off, your aluminum tank will be overfilled.
Bill
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1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
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