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10-01-2005, 08:09 AM
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Rivet Master  
1976 31' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Chandler
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Propane/CO detectors
Has anyone installed these detectors themselves? I would like to order one of each; however, Camping World wants $102.00 each to install. That leaves me to ask, "how hard can this be?". We have replaced all of the lights in the Argosy ourselves. Is this something we could also do ourselves? I know they work on the 12V system. I have 12V outlets all over the trailer. Could one of those be refitted for this detector?
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10-01-2005, 08:15 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,499
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The placment is key for propane detectors. Keep them low. Propane is heaver then air and will sink to the floor or low point. Yes you can do it yourself... have fun 
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1973 F-250 4X4 390
1965 Chevy Suburban 454
AIR 6030
WBCCI 4258
TCT
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10-01-2005, 09:02 AM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
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I have been looking to add a CO detector to my unit. I saw this unit at Home Depot and was going to get it. It is battery powered which means I would not have to tap into a 12 volt wire in my trailer. It would also not be draining my battery when the trailer is not in use. I will most likely relocate my existing smoke alarm (battery powered) to the kitchen and put this unit in the sleeping area. Any comments on this type of unit?
http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...4+3842&pos=n25
The link in preview is not working, but the unit is:
Kidde
Battery-Operated Voice-Alert CO and Smoke Alarm
Model 900-0102
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Richard
Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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10-01-2005, 02:08 PM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: I currently do not own a 2nd Airstream
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I put one of these in but minebut it is powered from the onboard deep cycle battery. Took all of about 30 minutes. I mounted it under the dinette on the top of the kickplates about 20" from the battery. The stove, furnace, fridge and propane lamp are all up front anyway. Kinda out of the way and you have to look for it to see it. I can post a picture if anyone is interested. I sleep a little easier knowing its there.
Brad
FF
P.S.: Congrats on your 100th post Rich!!
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10-01-2005, 03:17 PM
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1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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I installed a LP detector, tied into 12v, in the kitchen cabinet near the floor, because LP sinks. I installed it in there because I figured if the water heater, stove, or fridge leaked, it would sniff it out first if it was in the cabinet with them. The WH is in the closet right next door to it. Very easy to install, I just had to cut a thin piece of plywood with a hole for the detector, and mount it in the cabinet, then spice into the wires that were already there.
I installed a CO detector, battery operated, on top of the bathroom cabinet. This puts it almost directly above the furnace. CO rises, and so this should catch it if the furnace produces any. It's just velcroed to the wall.
I also sleep better knowing they are watching out for stuff I either cannot, or might not, notice.
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10-01-2005, 03:56 PM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,172
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Originally Posted by azflycaster
The link in preview is not working, but the unit is:
Kidde
Battery-Operated Voice-Alert CO and Smoke Alarm
Model 900-0102
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azflycaster,
There is supposedly a difference between the RV rated dectectors and the home rated ones...dunno what the difference is...I use a home rated one with the digital read out, if it is sensing CO I want to know how much!
Aaron 
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10-01-2005, 05:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
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Isn't there a difference between a CO2 detector and a propane gas detector?
Ken J.
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Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
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10-01-2005, 05:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Ken,
To the best of my knowledge, CO (carbon monoxide) detectors are different from Propane detectors. I have a dual fire/carbon monoxide detector and am contemplating replacing my nonfunctioning propane detector that came in my '86 Sovereign.
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AIR #0078
'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
Mag-Hytec rear diff cover
Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
265 watt AM Solar, Inc. system
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10-01-2005, 05:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
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Thats what I thought - so you probably should have both if you really want to be safe.... to my knowledge, they do not make a battery powered propane gas detector.....
Ken J.
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Founder :
Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
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10-01-2005, 06:01 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 30' Argosy
Havelock
, where we park it
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Juel, They are very easy to install, just be sure to install the LP detector at a low point as others have said. I just found a 12 volt wire and wired into it. I would suggest a rv carbon monoxide detector before a home one.
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Niki (fur baby)
1979 Argosy 30 (Costalotta)
WBCCI 10103
"Happiness is a warm Puppy" Charles Schulz
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10-03-2005, 12:47 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 19' Safari
1968 24' Tradewind
Rural
, Delaware
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Some useless trivia...
Raid Ant & Roach Spray sets off the LP detector.
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10-03-2005, 09:37 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
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Now we know how to test them
Ken J.
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Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
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Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
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10-03-2005, 11:56 AM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Ken,
My wife tested the smoke detector last weekend with a steak in the broiler. Works great, tastes great too!
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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10-03-2005, 12:26 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
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Cool - all these ways to make sure our safety equipment works! ......
I like it!
Ken
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1956 Flying Cloud
Founder :
Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
Rally
Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
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10-03-2005, 01:00 PM
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
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Originally Posted by azflycaster
Ken,
My wife tested the smoke detector last weekend with a steak in the broiler. Works great, tastes great too!
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Is that thing a smoke detector? I thought it was an oven timer.
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10-03-2005, 01:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 19' Safari
1968 24' Tradewind
Rural
, Delaware
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Hey Ken,
Just so we get it right, it was the Raid Ant & Roach Killer with GermFighter. 
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10-03-2005, 01:13 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
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Thanks alot - I would have missed the germ fighter part - want to make sure we get the right stuff!
Hmm has me thinking - you kill the roaches and ants then you sanatize them...... ?
Then we use them for....... or never mind
Ken J
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1956 Flying Cloud
Founder :
Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
Rally
Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
restoration rally
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10-03-2005, 01:24 PM
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Moderator
1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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The sawdust from cutting out your floorboards with a circular saw will test your smoke detector. It will apparently ruin it too 
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10-03-2005, 03:35 PM
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Retired.
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Originally Posted by Ken J
Thanks alot - I would have missed the germ fighter part - want to make sure we get the right stuff!
Hmm has me thinking - you kill the roaches and ants then you sanatize them...... ?
Then we use them for....... or never mind
Ken J |
It makes for a "clean kill".
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10-03-2005, 03:38 PM
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Retired.
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Originally Posted by SilverRanger
Raid Ant & Roach Spray sets off the LP detector.
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And you know this because?...
I heard you tried to rinse the ant and roach spray off by submerging the trailer. Any truth to this rumor?
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