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10-24-2018, 03:54 PM
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2019 30' International
2019 30' International
Bolingbrook
, Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 33
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Our Propane Alarm Works
We took our first long trip in our new Airstream in September from IL to CO. The second night we were boondocking in the WalMart parking lot in Sterling, CO (hello to the airstream parked beside us). We were sound asleep when an alarm inside the trailer woke us up. I had no idea what it could be, until I got my wits to me and realized the propane detector had a red light, instead of green. I thought it was malfunctioning, well maybe I didn't have my wits yet. I silenced the alarm and got back in bed. A few minutes later it went off again. Realizing that I should check the stovetop, I found one of the burners was left in the low position, probably after being bumped.
I'm glad we have a propane detector.
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10-24-2018, 08:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 28' International
Ofallon
, Missouri
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 659
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Wow. I appreciate mine now! Always thought of it as good safety but unlikely to be needed. But when you do need it, it is literally a life saver.
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10-24-2018, 08:55 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 27' Globetrotter
North Bay
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 135
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Glad to hear you are OK. It does make you think.
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I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
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10-24-2018, 09:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 27' Safari FB SE
NW Oregon in a nice spot
, Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 879
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Thank you for taking the time to post. It helps to balance out the ones who have disconnected theirs to avoid phantom draw and because they see them as something not needed for what ever reason they have.......
For those of us with older trailers it is a good reminder to be sure ours are still functioning properly. I tested mine with a propane torch (not lit) this past summer and was quite surprised at the amount of gas it took to activate it. So I replaced it.
Protagonist has some good information on what happens to a person when inhaling propane, even without a boom.
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10-25-2018, 09:14 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Watertown
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 270
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Propane detector
Interesting. Where is the propane detector? I don't think we have one, but it sounds like a good idea. Did you add it or did your trailer come with it?
Our trailer is winterized and buttoned up for the winter, but I went in the other day to do a last check of any freezable liquids, and there was a detector high on the wall in the bed area beeping every so often. It was labeled as a CO detector, but having it high on the wall seemed like a bad idea since we'd be dead before the gas got that high. Now I'm wondering if it's a propane detector. I know CO is heavy and accumulates on the floor, but what about propane?
I tried to open it to remove and replace the battery, but couldn't figure out how to open it. Is this likely to be a propane detector?
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10-25-2018, 09:30 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Franklin Park
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 181
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Ditto that thanks
After I bought my airstream 345 motorhome I install the smoke and CO2 detector and a separate LP detector I located my LP detector just above the floor in the middle of a motorhome I do testing every once in a while and after hearing your story it makes me realize this was NOT a waste of time and money
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10-25-2018, 09:31 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Washington
, Washington, D.C.
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,265
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This reminds me of something I did with my new trailer on my first voyage. On the 3rd or 4th day when I was breaking camp and following my check sheet for everything internal, I looked over at the stovetop and saw that the front burner was barely on, the flame just visible. What I had done when turning it off that morning after cooking oatmeal, was to actually turn it to low (in the opposite direction of 'off'). After that, I always make sure I really turn it off.
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10-25-2018, 09:39 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Draper
, Utah
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 165
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On our first boondocking trip many years ago, I chained the, running, generator up to the A-frame at the front of the trailer. Not long after that, the CO detector started screeming.
We bugged out quickly on a cold October night, turned off the genny, and ventilated the trailer. Thank goodness for panoramic windows...
Never made that mistake again.
On a side note, we were once parked on a VERY dusty dirt road and were intermittently running the furnace. The CO detector went off once again. The furnace is in the rear of our trailer and the CO detector is in the front bedroom. All I can figure is it was old and malfunctioned, or the dust caused it to go off. Spooked me from sleeping with the furnace on for quite a while.
Yearly I test the CO detector by placing it in/near the exhaust of the generator.
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10-25-2018, 09:41 AM
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Rivet Master
2004 25' Classic
Prescott
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 623
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sallye
Interesting. Where is the propane detector? I don't think we have one, but it sounds like a good idea. Did you add it or did your trailer come with it?
Our trailer is winterized and buttoned up for the winter, but I went in the other day to do a last check of any freezable liquids, and there was a detector high on the wall in the bed area beeping every so often. It was labeled as a CO detector, but having it high on the wall seemed like a bad idea since we'd be dead before the gas got that high. Now I'm wondering if it's a propane detector. I know CO is heavy and accumulates on the floor, but what about propane?
I tried to open it to remove and replace the battery, but couldn't figure out how to open it. Is this likely to be a propane detector?
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CO is lighter than air and the detector should be placed higher up
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W/ Deedee & Boo
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10-25-2018, 09:56 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Greeneville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 436
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Alarms are fun. Funny when they sound we think they are malfunctioning.
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10-25-2018, 10:23 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1975 27' Overlander
Galena
, Illinois
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 172
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Car running to close to the front open window, CO alarm went off. Wife cooking with door open blocking exhaust vent, smoke alarm when off. Raining out so I move the grill next to the trailer near open window, cook steaks, smoke alarm went off. Boon docked til the batteries almost died, last thing the propane detector does is to go off letting you know you no longer have an active propane detector, Propane detector went off. When your entire indoor life is living in a tin can many precautions must be taken to insure everyone's safety, this includes back up 9 volt battery before we leave for our smoke alarm/CO detector. Better safe than sorry.
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10-25-2018, 10:27 AM
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Matchbox
1999 25' Safari
Surrey
, British Columbia
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 7
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Our dog used to like lying on the lino flooring because it was cooler and that is where the propane detector is....she passed wind in the middle of the night and set it off (scared the you-know-what outta her and us too...). We found out it worked just fine
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10-25-2018, 10:35 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2010 30' Classic
Holmen
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 12
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Propane Alarm -- CHECK the DATE
I have learned the hard way about propane alarms -- CHECK THE EXPIRATION DATE
We have an Airstream TT and a Truck Camper. Both have the same type of propane alarm. For some reason I changed my Airstream alarm at 5 years of age ( maybe I read it some place, maybe it did something goofy).
Several years ago on a fall trip in our truck camper in the middle of the nite in a Walmart parking lot our propane alarm went off -- note this is a big deal for us so we were wide awake. I hopped out of bed checked the stove burners ( none on) waved a magazine by the alarm and it silenced itself. ( My experience is that these alarms are super sensitive - it only takes a few stray molecules of propane to set them off.)
So everyone back to sleep. After another hour or so - a repeat performance when the propane alarm went off. And no apparent offender. ( As I recall it happened a total of 3 times in 1 nite.) The next morning I checked the date on the alarm - it had expired. Needless to say the next RV place we saw i was ordered to buy a new alarm and I was not permitted to put it in myself.
Moral of the story -- CHECK THE DATE CODE ON YOUR PROPANE ALARM EACH YEAR ( I assume all propane alarms have an expiration date.) If it is expired or soon to expire -- REPLACE IT!
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10-25-2018, 10:36 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Tifton
, Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 148
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Quote:
Originally Posted by a.matches
Our dog used to like lying on the lino flooring because it was cooler and that is where the propane detector is....she passed wind in the middle of the night and set it off (scared the you-know-what outta her and us too...). We found out it worked just fine
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Have 2 dogs. Need to keep that in mind when we run low on propane.
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10-25-2018, 10:39 AM
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Silver Star
1970 23' Safari
Victoria
, British Columbia
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 352
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I had a friend who many years ago did a major upgrade on his boat he had auto pilot and all the bells and whistles installed ........but no CO alarm....I ran into him one day and he told he was taking the summer off to cruise with his son.... I was very jealous .... he did an overnight cruise with his son up the west coast to go diving about 2weeks later .....they found them drifting about a mile off the coast the next day both dead from CO ..... I wasn't so jealous anymore!!
Never disable your alarms!! Remember CO is orderless and tasteless you just get sleepy and never wake up.
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10-25-2018, 11:06 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 25' International
Framingham
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 142
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RLS
CO is lighter than air and the detector should be placed higher up
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And propane is heavier and sinks to the floor. The propane detector will be within 12” or less of the floor.
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10-25-2018, 11:11 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 25' International
Framingham
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 142
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Quote:
Originally Posted by firman
I have learned the hard way about propane alarms -- CHECK THE EXPIRATION DATE
We have an Airstream TT and a Truck Camper. Both have the same type of propane alarm. For some reason I changed my Airstream alarm at 5 years of age ( maybe I read it some place, maybe it did something goofy).
Several years ago on a fall trip in our truck camper in the middle of the nite in a Walmart parking lot our propane alarm went off -- note this is a big deal for us so we were wide awake. I hopped out of bed checked the stove burners ( none on) waved a magazine by the alarm and it silenced itself. ( My experience is that these alarms are super sensitive - it only takes a few stray molecules of propane to set them off.)
So everyone back to sleep. After another hour or so - a repeat performance when the propane alarm went off. And no apparent offender. ( As I recall it happened a total of 3 times in 1 nite.) The next morning I checked the date on the alarm - it had expired. Needless to say the next RV place we saw i was ordered to buy a new alarm and I was not permitted to put it in myself.
Moral of the story -- CHECK THE DATE CODE ON YOUR PROPANE ALARM EACH YEAR ( I assume all propane alarms have an expiration date.) If it is expired or soon to expire -- REPLACE IT!
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Carbon monoxide detectors have an expiration date also. Usually about 10 yrs. but check yours to be certain!
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10-25-2018, 11:16 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 27' International CCD FB
San Diego
, California
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 2,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by a.matches
Our dog used to like lying on the lino flooring because it was cooler and that is where the propane detector is....she passed wind in the middle of the night and set it off (scared the you-know-what outta her and us too...). We found out it worked just fine
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Hah. Had the same happen many moons ago when we rented a class A. Except it wasn't a dog. It was my young 1 year old son in a pack and play right next to the detector!
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10-25-2018, 12:37 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Watertown
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 270
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Wow!
Quote:
Originally Posted by RLS
CO is lighter than air and the detector should be placed higher up
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Thank you for the information. That explains why ours is high up. We also have some sort of detector near the floor near the furnace. I'm guessing that is our propane detector. I'm going to have to check the manual.
But another question. The CO detectors for my house are the plug in type. Are they even worth having? I don't know anyone who has outlets high up on the wall.
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10-25-2018, 06:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 27' Safari FB SE
NW Oregon in a nice spot
, Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 879
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Sallye, to answer your question.
The propane detector should have come with your trailer. Propane is heavier that air so it will be low to the ground, maybe 4 inches above the floor. And is likely across from the stove or in that vicinity to catch the most likely source of a leak relatively fast.
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