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Old 02-01-2007, 12:53 PM   #15
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LPG rods

Most Airstream LPG hold down rods from the mid 60's are pinned, not welded.

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Old 02-01-2007, 01:36 PM   #16
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Hey Coastal Friend

Is yours welded or pinned?, perhaps the PO welded it. If I were closer I'd do it for Free well maybe a beer. Keep us posted as to what you do.
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Well, I think it is pinned, but the pin is not visible sticking in or out of the rod or "sleeve" it's in. If I look down the "sleeve" I can see a pin-like thing and the rod moves side to side, so I believe it's pinned.. but isn't the pin welded front to back inside the "sleeve"? I suppose I could just drill it out? And what type of pin is used?
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Old 02-01-2007, 05:00 PM   #18
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Well, I think it is pinned, but the pin is not visible sticking in or out of the rod or "sleeve" it's in. If I look down the "sleeve" I can see a pin-like thing and the rod moves side to side, so I believe it's pinned.. but isn't the pin welded front to back inside the "sleeve"? I suppose I could just drill it out? And what type of pin is used?

They are called "split pins."

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Old 02-01-2007, 05:50 PM   #19
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I'm glad I read the "..Disaster Averted" thread. Thanks.

Why on earth would anyone drill a hole in the Hold Down rod and use a pin after reading that!

Mine is welded, thank goodness.
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When I went to new tanks on my TW, I removed the pin out of the rod and found another hole in the rod futher down. Put a new pin in the new location and it just the right spot. Getting the pin out took a bit of work.
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"Lots of work..." Boy, you're telling me! So far I have broken one bit and am drilling away- at a funky angle with only interruptions and no results (ugh kids!).

I googled split pins- I know them as cotter pins- and I have to agree with markdoane, they don't seem up to the job. Maybe they make thicker heavy- duty types?
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"Lots of work..." Boy, you're telling me! So far I have broken one bit and am drilling away- at a funky angle with only interruptions and no results (ugh kids!).

I googled split pins- I know them as cotter pins- and I have to agree with markdoane, they don't seem up to the job. Maybe they make thicker heavy- duty types?
Split pins are punched out, not drilled out, since they are made from spring steel, which is very hard.

The split pin installation has been used by many RV manufacturers for some 40 plus years.

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Old 02-01-2007, 07:21 PM   #23
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argh...

I so remember this. I hammered the rod down... and the pin broke fairly easily (after I too kept drilling away). A punch works too, I believe. I replaced the rod with treaded rod that fits (just take your holder to the hardware store to find another). I then bolted the rod with double bolts and lockwashers above and below the "sleeve." Much safer than the ol rusty pin.
Good luck! Gonna polish those tanks?
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Well punching sounds good at the moment... I have tried that too- I think my awl is too big- must search for something skinnier....


Yeah I'm gunna polish... I have to do that before filling, right!?!
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I so remember this. I hammered the rod down... and the pin broke fairly easily (after I too kept drilling away). A punch works too, I believe. I replaced the rod with treaded rod that fits (just take your holder to the hardware store to find another). I then bolted the rod with double bolts and lockwashers above and below the "sleeve." Much safer than the ol rusty pin.
Good luck! Gonna polish those tanks?
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The typical LPG rod is harder than the mild steel treaded rods.

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Old 02-01-2007, 11:07 PM   #26
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Me too...

Mine is welded to the sleeeve as well. I just assumed that yours was too Tanya! I would weld it after finding out about the possibility of the rod breaking at the pin hole. Maybe that's why it moves back and forth in the sleeve so much. perhaps it is getting ready to break. I hope not. I agree with Andy that the original rod should be better made than the newer threaded one. I hope everything works out for you. Let us hear how you make out on this. Ed
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Old 02-02-2007, 01:23 PM   #27
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I got the **%$ split pin out- and it looks nothing like a cotter pin, which is what came up when I googled it.

How'd I get it out? First, tried to drill it- broke the bit off. Second, took the awl to it, but it is so close to the front of the trailer that it wasn't working. Tried to hammer down to see if it would even move-NOPE. Third, took the skinniest chisel I have and stuck it down, next to the rod to cut through the pin. That worked, but the chisel got stuck. 4th, got the WD-40, a bunch of pliers..... in the end I got it out... and that split pin is strong!! On its way out it got stuck again (rod was free) and I couldn't even dent it with a chisel and hammer. So, here's some pics, I'm off to the hardware store to see about a new metal drill bit, and check out the "split pins".... wish me luck!

I'm going to have new safety chains welded on and will ask him to add a spot to the rod also.
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It probably won't help now....but we call those roll pins A split pin is more like a cotter pin.

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