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Old 11-02-2005, 10:16 AM   #15
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To fill an empty 30# propane, I have ussually paid $20.00-$25.00. I've only filled tanks about three times so far.

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Old 11-02-2005, 10:59 AM   #16
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Here is projected info from our government, and the LP gas association:

Summary of price outlook for 2005-2006
(first presented by the U.S. Department of Energy's Energy Information Administration on Oct. 12, 2005 at the 2005-2006 Winter Fuels Supply Conference in Washington, D.C.)
Retail propane prices expected up by 20% to 36% this winter
The U.S. Energy Department's statistical division, the Energy Information Administration (EIA), on Oct. 12, 2005 is predicting propane users can expect a 30% increase in their bills this winter. Households heating primarily with propane can expect to pay, on average, $325 more this winter. Propane is used as the primary heating fuel in 6.6 million U.S. residences.
The average U.S. residential propane price (including State taxes) is projected to be $1.80/ gallon for 2005, 29 cents above the 2004 average. Prices are expected to average $2.07/gallon in 2006. Regional residential prices for the upcoming season range from $2.18/gallon in the Midwest to $2.27/gallon in the Northeast, EIA stated in its October national energy report.
According to EIA, an average consumer will pay $1,427 this winter for propane, up from last year's $1,102. EIA is basing these figures on propane being sold to customers at $2.05/gallon, versus $1.64/gallon in 2004.
Prices will also depend on the severity of the weather. EIA is predicting that if the winter is 10% colder, propane prices will average $2.25/gallon. However, if the 2005-06 winter is 10% warmer, prices will average $1.91/gallon.
Continuing tightness in crude oil and natural gas markets is expected to keep crude oil and wellhead natural gas prices elevated, resulting in increased residential propane prices for the upcoming winter season, EIA wrote.
The 2005-2006 winter heating season ends officially on March 31, 2006.



Propane
2002-2003
Actual
2003-
2004 Actual
2004-
2005
Actual
2005-06
Projections
Percent change from 2004-05Consumption (gals) 940882n/an/a n/aAvg. Price ($/gal) 1.201.301.642.05+24.8Household Winter Heat Expenditures ($) 1,1241,1471,1021,427+29.5
Chart from EIA, Short Term Energy Outlook, October 2005.
Consumption based on typical per household in region.
Prices shown are nat'l average delivered-to-household prices.
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:27 AM   #17
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This may seem like a dumb question, but I thought that propane, at least for RV's and BBQ'er was sold by the pound. Is there a cost breakdown for propane by the pound?

Maybe I need to re-read this thread....

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Old 11-02-2005, 11:54 AM   #18
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Propane weighs 4.24 pounds per gallon. A 20 pound tank of propane contains 4.71 gallons
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:07 PM   #19
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Terry.

Thanks for clearing that up.

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Old 11-02-2005, 02:35 PM   #20
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Watch those exchange tanks that some stores have, they charge out the wazoo and only have 17 lbs. of fuel in them!

I just filled the 33 gallon tank in my pickup, and was charged $2.65 per gallon.
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Old 11-02-2005, 05:08 PM   #21
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I paid $23.00 a week ago to fill a 30 lb tank. That was Canadian.
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Also that was at a U-haul dealer.
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Old 11-02-2005, 05:49 PM   #23
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$23.00 Canadien = $20.80 US.
30 pounds of propane =7.07 gallons
20.80/7.07=$2.94/ gallon.
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:46 PM   #24
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I filled up our tank today, which holds 10 gallons. The per gallon price was $2.60/gallon, which is about the same price as diesel fuel down here. I can't wait for both prices to come down.

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Old 11-05-2005, 01:24 AM   #25
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$1.75 per gallon for propane (seems fair).........plus free dump of your waste tanks. I suspect this is a "lost leader" to get you to "gas up" while you're there at the gas station (Shell)! This is not a tourist stop (Corvallis, OR).........I'm sure the closer you are to tourist destination, the more $ you pay for propane.
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Old 11-05-2005, 03:40 AM   #26
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The last time I filled one of our 40# tanks, I paid $0.79 per gallon, and just over $4.00 to fill the tank. This was at Bretz RV in Missoula, MT in August. They run this special during the summer months to get people into the dealership.

When we're in Helena, MT we like to get our propane at Montana Propane. They have an annual open house on one weekend each August, where they give you a great lunch for free, plus sell discounted propane. In the past, the free lunch was worth way more than the cost to fill our 40# tank. It probably won't be that way in the future.

I'm glad we got the convection microwave as an option in our trailer, and we use a nominal amount of propane. Most of our propane use has been to heat our trailer on cold nights. However, I think we'll soon be in the market for a small electric space heater if the cost of propane stays high.

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Electric vs Propane Heat

FYI to all those considering electric over propane. We pay 10.5 cents a KWH at our home, which is what the local campground also charges for monthly rentals. According to my handy dandy spreadsheet the breakeven point for propane would be $2.81 a gallon. This is assuming a 100% efficient propane heater, such as catalytic unit.
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I just filled both of my 30 # tanks today for $2.49 gal. I checked around a bit and it seems to be pretty much that price everywhere around here. (Portland, OR.)

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