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Old 04-25-2014, 12:12 PM   #101
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I think people who shut off accept that it's very low probability and when they hear people say "there ain't a person on this thread or anyone I can find who has had a problem" - those folks often will then cite the limitations of anecdotal evidence - rightly so - and that ruffles feathers obviously

But is it not just as much feather ruffling to dismiss those who shut off as hypocritical, logically inconsistent etc

Tit for tat I say
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Old 04-25-2014, 01:26 PM   #102
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I think people who shut off accept that it's very low probability and when they hear people say "there ain't a person on this thread or anyone I can find who has had a problem" - those folks often will then cite the limitations of anecdotal evidence - rightly so - and that ruffles feathers obviously

But is it not just as much feather ruffling to dismiss those who shut off as hypocritical, logically inconsistent etc

Tit for tat I say
We do get a bit adversarial in this Forum, don't we?

On the subject of propane, there are risks leaving the system live whilst in transit and those risks can be reduced to zero simply by turning the propane off. It doesn't matter that no-one has ever come across an issue running with the propane on, the risks still exist but practice proves that they are very small risks and well worth accepting in the pursuit of a cold beer, and there's no sarcasm intended there, either. That some of us choose to run without that small risk should only be a point of interest for those that do run live, not a point of criticism.

Tip it all on its head, though, and think about the poop I get for towing with a minivan. According some I am a risk to myself, my family and everyone on the road and yet, like running with the propane live, practice is proving that the risks are far less severe than some will claim.

I did once leave the propane on when we set off so the fridge was running all the way home. I arrived home safely and not towing a big ball of fire so yes, I accept that the risks are minimal. The trouble was I had no beer left in the fridge!

For the complainers, yes I do have too much time on my hands at the moment; in between jobs just now
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Old 04-25-2014, 01:28 PM   #103
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since you went on a tangent and mentioned minivans...I need to dig up helmet threads on ATV forums for you all to reference, lol
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since you went on a tangent and mentioned minivans...I need to dig up helmet threads on ATV forums for you all to reference, lol
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Old 04-25-2014, 01:54 PM   #105
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We do get a bit adversarial in this Forum, don't we?

On the subject of propane, there are risks leaving the system live whilst in transit and those risks can be reduced to zero simply by turning the propane off. It doesn't matter that no-one has ever come across an issue running with the propane on, the risks still exist but practice proves that they are very small risks and well worth accepting in the pursuit of a cold beer, and there's no sarcasm intended there, either. That some of us choose to run without that small risk should only be a point of interest for those that do run live, not a point of criticism.

Tip it all on its head, though, and think about the poop I get for towing with a minivan. According some I am a risk to myself, my family and everyone on the road and yet, like running with the propane live, practice is proving that the risks are far less severe than some will claim.

I did once leave the propane on when we set off so the fridge was running all the way home. I arrived home safely and not towing a big ball of fire so yes, I accept that the risks are minimal. The trouble was I had no beer left in the fridge!

For the complainers, yes I do have too much time on my hands at the moment; in between jobs just now
If a travel trailer is equipped with LPG (propane system) there is never a zero risk.

The bottles can be shut off, and a risk is still there.

A bottle can fall off the a-frame.

A LPG bottle can explode if hit just right in an accident.

For that matter, a tow vehicle has fire and explosive risks. Get in an accident, as some have, and the fuel tank can rupture.

Life always has risks.

How those risks are dealt with and/or handled is the key to safety.

Being careless, is the huge enemy.

Being careful and cautious along with good PM, is a lifetime friend.

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Old 04-25-2014, 02:55 PM   #106
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We travel with our propane off. We put a bag of ice in the freezer, and our perishables go in the freezer too with the ice (meats, jar of mayo, etc). Pop, beer, lettuce, etc. goes in the refrigerator (we make sure food is already cold). When we get to our destination at the end of the day, food is still cold and ice has barely melted.

We also keep a small cooler in the truck for cans of pop and other quick snacks we want to keep cool. Much easier than stopping and grabbing something from the refrigerator.

When we did our initial walk-thru, it was the technician who recommended this method and also recommended we travel with the propane off. Never thought there was any reason to question him since his recommendation worked for us.

This thread has been interesting, to say the least.
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Soda pop! Cola. Coke. Pepsi! Dr Pepper. It's a regional thing, I guess. haha
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Is it ok to run fridge on propane while towing ?

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I think people who shut off accept that it's very low probability and when they hear people say "there ain't a person on this thread or anyone I can find who has had a problem" - those folks often will then cite the limitations of anecdotal evidence - rightly so - and that ruffles feathers obviously

But is it not just as much feather ruffling to dismiss those who shut off as hypocritical, logically inconsistent etc

Tit for tat I say

So then you can post hard evidence of how towing with the propane on is proven hazardous?

Post it up so we may all be as informed as you are.

I find it amusing that some folks lacking the evidence to back up a positive assertion mock those who won't factually disprove assertions that were never proven in the first place.

You claim "evidence", let's see it.
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I never meant to claim evidence....if I did, I apologize...I only assumed that running with gas on and running through trailer constituted a tiny increase in risk of damages/injuries and folks seem to sometimes choose to mitigate this presumably tiny risk and doing so on that assumption does in fact mitigate a tiny risk.

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Is it ok to run fridge on propane while towing ?

So then you can prove the tiny risk then?

Or is such a risk asserted by virtue of "common sense"?
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So then you can prove the tiny risk then?

I assume it only at this point
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This is a bit of a religious issue for some.

Personally, I always run the fridge on propane when towing. It's too hot in TX for much of the year for it to stay cold otherwise unless it's a very short trip. If I'm pulling up in a gas station such that the trailer will be near a pump, I shut off the flame while fueling.
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so did we every figure out if it was safe to travel with the LP tanks on or not..

I would figure just reading this long thread you would be more likely to sustain damage with a tire, especially the GM, blow out than a LP gas leak or worse.. there was an RV on fire in the news a couple days ago that blocked the interstate. In looking at the picture its most likely cause was tire and/ or bearings overheating. do not know for sure just looking at where fire started from news reports..


Here's my non official and non RV owning person take on this..

If you are going a short distance, ie. 3-5 hrs, and the weather is mild and the reefer has been pre-cooled and you have a good amount of cold and frozen item in it then you can run with LP off..

On the other hand if you are traveling 4-6 hrs and the weather is warm to hot and the reefer is pre-cooled and you have a good amount of cold and frozen stuff you can run with LP on or off.

So i guess it depend on U if you want to run LP reefer on or not. but not in canada eh..

I would be more worried about the tires than the LP issue, not to mention the other idiots on the road doing stupid stunts in front, beside you.
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I'm still runnin' down the road with the fridge on...
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We tow with the fridge running if we have food inside it.
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We tow with the fridge on when food is inside. I usually only open one tank's valve unless we've been camping for more than 3 or 4 days. When I pick the trailer up from storage I buy 2 small bags of ice, one for the fridge and one for the freezer. When I get home I turn on the LP and set the fridge to "Auto'. The refrigerator works better / cools faster on LP than 120Volt. When the fridge gets down to temp, I divide the remaining ice into smaller bags and stow them in the freezer for future happy hour use. If the trailer will be parked at home for more than a day before departure, I plug in to 120V and the fridge automatically switches to 120V operation. When we depart, the fridge reverts to LP until we plug in at the next stop. I have installed Acu-Rite wireless thermometers in the freezer fridge and keep the receiver above the vent hood holding on with the magnets. When we are on the move we keep the receiver in the cab of the truck. I leave the alarms on to alert us if the fridge rises above 40 degrees or the freezer rises above freezing. The Acu-Rite also doubles as a good indoor outdoor thermometer if you turn the alarms off. Amazon.com: ACU_RITE Refrigerator/Freezer Wireless Digital Thermometer 00986: Kitchen & Dining
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We've always towed with the fridge on propane w/o out issue. We are leaving in two weeks going out to Manitoba and Sask to visit wife's family, and though it might be neat to take the SS Badger across Lake Mich. from Ludington to Manitowoc. It's a four hour ride and I just happen to think about the fridge running on LP, to which they said, NO, it needs to be turned off, so we will have to careful about what we carry until we get to Wisc.
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We run with LPG on, although I only run with one tank open. I turn off the fridge during refueling stops. Typically rv's kept in enclosed areas like goshawks00 noted or when towing through tunnels might require you to turn off anything with an open flame which includes an RV refrigerator.

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I try to turn it on about 12 hours prior to departure so it will be cold when I put the groceries in. Then off down the highway with it on...
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