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06-06-2014, 06:33 AM
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3202 Ellie
1975 Argosy 24
milan
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I have always travel with fridge on have jared the flame out a couple time on other campers not the as can't get there with hot beer
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06-06-2014, 07:57 AM
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#143
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
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Apache Junction
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If one pulls through to the front pump and the trailer refrigerator is beside a pump behind you, then the lighted propane refrigerator could make a bad day for a your rig and the person pumping gasoline on the other side of that pump.
Also, the location of your generator set needs to be far enough away from the refrigerator when you refill it with gasoline.
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06-06-2014, 08:25 AM
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#144
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
alexandria
, Kentucky
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Originally Posted by switz
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That's the only time I have been concerned. The rest of the time the fridge is running - I want my food cold - they are designed to operate this way.
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06-07-2014, 08:32 AM
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#145
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
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Benton
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IMHO, if there is a sizable gasoline spill on a good hot day next to the propane fridge there might be reason for concern, but typical tank filling not so much. But I suppose that one never knows when a person might dump gas when filling.
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06-09-2014, 01:28 PM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
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With good batteries fully charged we have been off the grid in Glacier NP for 4 days. Moderate light and water pump usage we took a quick shower each night and kept the refrigerator on and were OK. We do travel with the refrig. on propane.
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06-17-2014, 04:56 PM
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TinCan
2016 30' Classic
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Aug 2011
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As an experiment I drove about 2 hours today with the propane off. The refrigerator heated up by about 10 degrees. Now that I have parked it is still trying to cool down. It was only about 80 degrees outside.
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06-17-2014, 05:03 PM
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2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Morgan
IMHO, if there is a sizable gasoline spill on a good hot day next to the propane fridge there might be reason for concern, but typical tank filling not so much. But I suppose that one never knows when a person might dump gas when filling.
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That's pretty much why if the trailer is next to a pump, I turn the fridge off. With the newer self igniting units, it only takes a second to flip the switch back on and the burner ignites.
Jack
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06-17-2014, 06:05 PM
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2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
, Alabama
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I assume that very soon after turning off gas valve the flame would go out being that is I think lower pressure
As opposed to turning off the gas to my weber babyQ that has regulator at the grill and hose has quite a bit of LP under pressure that will burn a couple minutes after shutting off tank valve?
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06-17-2014, 06:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PharmGeek
I assume that very soon after turning off gas valve the flame would go out being that is I think lower pressure
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If you turn off the gas at the tank while the frig is on gas the frig will NOT RELIGHT when you turn the gas on again. This will also be the case with the heater.
Both the frig and heater have very small pilot orifice and will not purge the line before the unit times out on flame failure.
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06-17-2014, 08:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
, Alabama
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I can confirm that turning of tank valves - then gassing up - then turning back on put light on fridge back to "gas" without a problem and ice when got home 2 hours later still solid....
But I wondered now that if I cut off valve - how long till the pilot goes out?
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06-17-2014, 10:32 PM
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TinCan
2016 30' Classic
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Besides the above concerns I guess my main concern is that with bouncing around and bumps on the road fittings may work themselves loose causing a leak. With propane settling downwards a build up of gas could occur which would not be detected while driving.
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06-17-2014, 11:18 PM
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Len and Jeanne
2005 16' International CCD
2015 19' Flying Cloud
Creston Valley
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Originally Posted by graysailor
As an experiment I drove about 2 hours today with the propane off. The refrigerator heated up by about 10 degrees. Now that I have parked it is still trying to cool down. It was only about 80 degrees outside.
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You might try the experiment with some frozen blue gel pacs in your freezer and fridge. This system effectively turns our fridge into a big picnic cooler when we travel, and it works just fine. When we camp for the night we turn on the fridge and refreeze any thawing gel pacs. Some plastic water bottles would probably work just as well.
This system also extends our boondocking battery life. The fridge fan helps the fridge exhaust waste heat more efficiently, but it does use up some battery power. If we stay over in a campsite we turn the fridge off during the day and turn it on again at night.
Polarlyse, how great to camp in Glacier! In defense of not driving with the propane on in that area, we nearly hit a moose once on HY 2 en route to Glacier, with the Bambi in tow. The darn thing just ran across the highway right in front of us, then swerved away at the last minute. In Canada we have also had bears come out of the brush and run right in front of our truck. We had to brake really hard to avoid hitting them. I should think even an accident with a deer would be dangerous for driving with the propane on.
Accidents will happen even to careful drivers in deepest civilization.
More to the point, we've just never seen the need to drive with the propane on. We've never had food go bad or propane go warm, and we do spend time in hot areas, as well.
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06-19-2014, 09:12 AM
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2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Is it ok to run fridge on propane while towing ?
Turning off the gas at the bottle will take a small amount of time to exhaust the gas in the lines. It will take a bit of time dependent upon how big the flame is at the burner. I actually go inside and flip the switch on the fridge. That way I know the gas is off.
The other issue to consider is that on the newer trailer like mine, you have two issues to deal with. First is that when you shut the gas off at the bottle, the electronics in the fridge will detect the flame out and will start the spark ignition routine. I don't want sparks when next to fuel pumps. The other thing is that the spark ignition routine has a timeout function. This means after multiple unsuccessful attempts to light the burner, the spark system shuts down and a fault light lights up on the face of the fridge. At that point the fridge needs to be reset by turning it off and on. My fear in using this method apart from the spark issue is that the lighting cycle has timed out and even if you put the gas on, the fridge will not restart. I usually travel with only one gas bottle turned on and have run out of gas on the road. Even turning on the full bottle will not relight the fridge if the ignition timeout routine has been exceeded.
Jack
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06-19-2014, 07:00 PM
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#155
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
, Alabama
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That info is appreciated! Had not thought about a spark routine
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08-24-2021, 06:01 AM
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#156
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2 Rivet Member
1975 27' Overlander
2019 Basecamp
Troy
, MI
Join Date: Jan 2019
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I always tow with the LPG active on my fridge...works great, nice cold drinks and other things upon arrival
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