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10-10-2014, 01:54 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1959 24' Tradewind
Excelsior
, Minnesota
Join Date: Sep 2006
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How to hang gas line under rv and when to paste before or after hanging
Hi, I'm going with black pipe and have about four sections should I put the dope on and seal before or after I hang the pieces, I'm afraid that if I do it before they will leak from movement to get it up etc. but if I do it when connected to the underside it will be difficult to make turns and get all of the fitting lined up correctly underneath. Hope this makes sense and I'm going with a paste and not yellow tape since I've read here that it seems to be the new standard. Also do I need to put hose between hangers and pipe and underside aluminum?
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10-10-2014, 02:14 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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Dope is the preferred method for black pipe. You are working with low pressure gas so it is unlikely you will move a given joint while placing the system up under the trailer so dope before.
How are you going up into the trailer? Flared copper is the correct method.
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10-10-2014, 02:20 PM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,172
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FWIW my trailer is plumbed with copper LP lines. they are put together with flare fittings and are held to the underside of the belly with rubber lined p-clamps.
Aaron
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10-10-2014, 02:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Black pipe would not be my first choice. I would go with copper. Black pipe is expensive and heavy. Also joints are more prone to leak than flared copper. I prefer Teflon tape for pipe joints. I have never been able to get paste to seal. If Teflon tape is used properly it won't leak at all.
Perry
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10-10-2014, 03:51 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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I believe RVIA code calls for copper, because it will flex as your trailer flexes. As for hanging it, the bare minimum is one hanger at each joint or each change in direction of the tubing if you bend the tubing to form elbows.
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10-10-2014, 04:04 PM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,172
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Protagonist
I believe RVIA code calls for copper, because it will flex as your trailer flexes. As for hanging it, the bare minimum is one hanger at each joint or each change in direction of the tubing if you bend the tubing to form elbows.
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RVIA Code doesn't specify, only that joints be accessible for inspection. I have seen black pipe, copper as well as rubber hoses used for plumbing the LP systems. Look under some of the new SOB's and you will see that they are using rubber hoses with fittings attached with zip ties.
I am old school and my first choice is going to be copper.
Aaron
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10-10-2014, 04:40 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 30' Classic
Fayetteville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 54
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I would not use black pipe to much vibration, copper would be much better.
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10-10-2014, 05:30 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,919
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My '63 had the main manifold run with black, copper ran up and into the shell. I went back with all copper, it was much easier in my opinion.
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10-10-2014, 05:44 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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The black iron pipe of today is made in China and tends to be porous.
Perry
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10-10-2014, 07:06 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perryg114
The black iron pipe of today is made in China and tends to be porous.
Perry
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10-10-2014, 07:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2000 25' Safari
Davidson County
, NC Highlands County, FL
Join Date: Aug 2006
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When I had to make a repair, I used flexible copper and flare type brass compression fittings. I slid each piece of the copper pipe inside a slightly shorter length of PEX pipe before making the flare, so that the PEX would act to protect the copper from road debris. This way the flare fittings are accessible and there is no wear on the copper pipe from the hangers.
I used this type of hanger, slightly larger than the diameter of the PEX.
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If you decide to use the black iron pipe, don't forget to use a dielectric adapter fitting at every location where iron transitions to brass/copper. If you do not use these fittings, galvanic action will corrode the pipe quickly. These fittings just slow the process down. There will still be corrosion at these dissimilar fittings.
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2014 Silverado LTZ 1500 Crew Cab 5.3L maximum trailering package
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10-11-2014, 06:29 AM
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King of the Zebra Speedo
Obrien
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,439
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I went straight copper, flair fittings, all the way. It held up for 40 years, and I'll be dead before another 40 rolls around...
-Red
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10-11-2014, 08:23 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
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I needed a 3/4" supply line to run my on demand hot water heater, so I used black pipe secured about every foot.
I built it in place with pipe dope.
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