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Old 07-13-2011, 06:36 AM   #1
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Gas on, gas off?

Hello to everyone,
We have been the proud owners of a 2007 International since 2009. Everything I read says to travel with the gas off and that the fridge will be fine. We usually stop at rest stops for lunch out of the stream's fridge so it would lose some cooling there. I was wondering how many people really follow the advice and turn the gas off each day before leaving home or camp or leave it on as you are on the road. Thanks for your comments.
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Old 07-13-2011, 06:41 AM   #2
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I leave mine on. 100 degree days and and several hours on the road lead to temps above safe limits in the refer.

Not to mention half melted ice for my cocktails. Bad juju.
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Old 07-13-2011, 06:42 AM   #3
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This seems to be an old debated argument.
Gas on for me - I like unspoiled food and cold beverages.
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:00 AM   #4
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Gas on. chances of food borne diseases are probably much greater than chance of an accident and a propane problem
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:11 AM   #5
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some prior threads:
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:35 AM   #6
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Now you've got me wondering....we left our 27FB sitting in storage, and I didn't turn the gas off at the bottles. We left the fridge doors ajar to keep it aired out, and I turned the storage switch by the door off. Does this keep the fridge from running? I don't remember a separate fridge on/off switch.

Turning the switch off at the door takes the batts out of the circuit, right? No ignition at the fridge, and some little gas valve closes itself without any 12 volts, I hope.
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I've always travelled with gas on - I must admit to being slightly concerned when fueling the truck - but apparently not concerned enough to stop doing it!

I did know some folks when I was on the "Award" trailer forum that had their trailer totally destroyed by fire while towing - they posted some rather dramatic pictures.

Investigation clearly indicated that the fire originated from the fridge.

Not sure if they still travel with propane on! They did buy an Airstream after though, and I believe are on this forum at times so maybe they will comment!

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Old 07-13-2011, 08:27 AM   #8
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Freezer Paks

Hi, we keep 4 of the blue freezer paks in the freezer compartment and turn off the gas while traveling. The freezer paks seem to help keep the whole fridge cool like a cooler. The less you open it the better of course. And if we are stopping for an extended time (say an hour or more), I will fire up the gas. While we are camping without electric, we keep the gas on when away from the trailer.
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Gas on for us. Since the mandated LP bottle valve change, any line rupture should (emphasis on should) stop the flow of LP.
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Old 07-13-2011, 10:23 AM   #10
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I've always travelled with gas on - I must admit to being slightly concerned when fueling the truck - but apparently not concerned enough to stop doing it!

I did know some folks when I was on the "Award" trailer forum that had their trailer totally destroyed by fire while towing - they posted some rather dramatic pictures.

Investigation clearly indicated that the fire originated from the fridge.

Not sure if they still travel with propane on! They did buy an Airstream after though, and I believe are on this forum at times so maybe they will comment!

Brian.


Don't forget the recall and fire issues with Dometic refers. I have no idea of the details of the fire you mention. But, it could have been a result of the factory problem, and not simply a traveling with gas on issue.
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Old 07-13-2011, 10:35 AM   #11
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Gas off, always.

Having seen, first hand, the effects of a bottled propane explosion and subsequent fire in a moving vehicle, it's not a risk I'd be prepared to take. I should add that it wasn't my vehicle that burned, nor my windows that were broken, but it was akin to a bomb going off and not something I'd like to see happen again.

For such a safety conscious group, I'm surprised that anyone here travels with the gas on, but then my view has been coloured by experience.

As to food poisoning from food not being kept sufficiently cool, there are plenty of alternatives, from putting a bag of ice in the fridge to firing the thing up at rest stops to stocking your fridge with less risky items. All of these things I would do in preference to travelling with the gas on.
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We travel w/ gas fridge on and roof vents open. All other appliances are turned off, of course - particularly the stove. We also forgot once to turn off the water pump; the check valve between the city water intake and the rest decided to go on holiday and we emptied the water tank on the way home
out the city water intake. I replaced the check and added a ball valve to permit complete shut-off; my experience w/ check valves in the steam launch is that they often don't like to stay completely closed.

Solar stays on when we tow; this charges batteries much faster than long lines w/ voltage drop from TV. I still think there's a market for a dc/dc converter/charger that would rapidly charge the trailer batteries from the line from the TV.

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Now you've got me wondering....we left our 27FB sitting in storage, and I didn't turn the gas off at the bottles. We left the fridge doors ajar to keep it aired out, and I turned the storage switch by the door off. Does this keep the fridge from running? I don't remember a separate fridge on/off switch.

Turning the switch off at the door takes the batts out of the circuit, right? No ignition at the fridge, and some little gas valve closes itself without any 12 volts, I hope.
Gringo, yes the store switch will kill power to the refr's controller, thus turn it off. Refr does have a separate power switch behind the freezer door, also thermostat control and auto/propane select. Its a good idea to turn the refr off here too, if it happens to be running with the doors propped open it will frost up fast......
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Gas on, gas off?

Greetings heavyjumbo!

Welcome to the Forums!

I began RVing in 1980 with a then brand new Nomad travel trailer. That trailer had a Dometic 3-way refrigerator, and I learned to always travel with the LP tanks turned off as the refrigerator operated on 12-volt when underway. I was shocked when I learned that Airstream, one of the foremost permium brands of travel trailers didn't see fit to include a 3-way refrigerator in their coaches (even as an option) -- something that my very cheap Nomad had from the factory 30+ years ago.

For my Minuet that still has its original Dometic 2-way refrigerator, I travel with the valves off and keep frozen reusable ice chest coolers in the refrigerator while underway. My Airstream didn't have a refrigerator in it when purchased so I had a 3-way Dometic installed so that it can run on 12-volts while underway -- as long as the refrigerator has been pre-cooled on either gas or AC-electric, it performs flawlessly on 12-volt when underway.

I don't trust either natural gas or propane so always take the most conservative approach to handling my coach's propane systems.

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