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12-10-2015, 12:49 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1974 31' Sovereign
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 11
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Ethanol gas used in Honda Eu2000i
What is the safest way to carry gas for my twin Honda generators. I have a topper on the truck bed tow vehicle with Windows that can open for venting
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12-10-2015, 01:08 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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Regular gas cans will work. Just secure them. Don't over think this.
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12-10-2015, 01:28 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2000 30' Excella
Toledo
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 493
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I hope your not using E85 Honda recommends 89 octane or better in mine .
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12-10-2015, 02:59 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Holly Springs
, Mississippi
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 426
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I only run nonethanol gas in mine.
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2016 FC 25' FB twin
2013 F-150 Lariat CrewCab 3.5 EB 4X4 3.55 axle
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12-10-2015, 03:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
, *** Big Sky Country ***Western Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Rotapax securely mounted in your bed ...
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2022 Ford F350 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch + Shocker air hitch
Honda Eu3200; AIR# 44105; formerly WBCCI 2015.1
Terminal Aluminitis; 2-people w/ 3+ dogs
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12-10-2015, 04:01 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob662
I only run nonethanol gas in mine.
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We use LPG and only carry 1.5gal for emergencies...stored right behind the other 'sploding stuff..
Bob
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12-10-2015, 04:04 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2006 19' Safari
New Smyrna Beach
, Florida
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 136
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Not to hijack the thread, but I would use non-ethanol or at least use a gas stabilizer in the Honda generator.
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12-10-2015, 04:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Globetrotter
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 691
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Why not just convert it to run on Propane and you won't have to deal with gasoline. I bought a kit from USCarb.net and did it myself. You don't lose the ability to run on gasoline and have the best of both worlds. Dave
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12-10-2015, 05:05 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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I like the propane conversion idea but it is harder to find propane and then they charge you about $5 a gallon for it. I would not run Ethanol in your generator because it is hard to get it out before storage. The stuff absorbs water and promotes corrosion. If you ran it every week, you could get by with it. Ethanol and stuff that sits a lot between uses is a death sentence.
Perry
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12-10-2015, 05:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Texas Airstream Harbor
, Zavalla, in the Deep East Texas Piney Woods on Lake Sam Rayburn
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,435
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I really do not see LP gas as an ideal fuel - such a hassle to refuel the tank, cost, then there is the issue of less BTU's per pound/gallon.
Most marinas supply non-ethanol gas.
Almost all general aviation airports will dispense fuel into an approved container.
My solution was to purchase a marine type dual fuel set up for the Honda's.
I have no fuel leakage nor vapor issues with the polypropylene tank carried in the bed of the pickup.
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"Suck it up, spend the bucks, do it right the first time."
WBCCI # 1113
AirForums #1737
Trailer '78 31' Sovereign
Living Large at an Airstream Park on the Largest Lake Totally Contained in Texas
Texas Airstream Harbor, Inc.
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12-10-2015, 06:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Globetrotter
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 691
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I guess I am confused. I find the average about $2.25 to 2.50 a gallon for propane and it is available at most service stations and many rv parks. It may be not quite as efficient but your generator will last longer and it is cleaner burning. Second if you have a power outage at your main home you could use it off your gas supply to run your electric furnace. The conversion kit I have is gasoline/propane/and natural gas.
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12-10-2015, 07:57 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perryg114
I like the propane conversion idea but it is harder to find propane and then they charge you about $5 a gallon for it.
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Originally Posted by NoResults
I guess I am confused. I find the average about $2.25 to 2.50 a gallon for propane and it is available at most service stations and many rv parks.
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The current price in my home zip code is $3.99 per gallon for propane. Convenience stores (what's a service station? Haven't seen one of those in decades) here don't carry propane, and in my part of the New Orleans metro area, there are only THREE places to buy bulk propane— U-haul, the Ice House, and the KoA Kampground. Where my kid brother lives, the price per gallon is $3.49 and many service stations do carry propane. But he lives in a small farming/ranching community, and I live in a major metropolitan area 750 miles away.
Propane prices and availability vary by region, so you can both be right, for different parts of the country.
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12-10-2015, 10:20 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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$2.09/gal in WNY.
2000i, LPG dual use conversion, 8yrs and counting,
Petrol stinks.. But it's nice to have when you need it.
Bob
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12-11-2015, 11:54 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Caledonia
, Michigan
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 169
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I use a metal safety can to transport gasoline for my generator. It does not let fuel odor pass through the wall of the container like a plastic gas can does.
Here is the can I use - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...rch_detailpage
Is also noted in other posts, I also use alcohol free fuel. In Michigan it is named 100% gasoline recreational fuel. I use it in my boat too.
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12-11-2015, 12:20 PM
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Michael Wild
1978 31' Sovereign
1984 31' Airstream310
Edmonton
, Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 92
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Cheap Propane at Costco
In my experience, you will find propane at your local Costco for about half the price of other suppliers.
There you can also fill up your truck, have the tire service department check and top off the air pressure in all of your tires including the trailer and get a hotdog and poutine to boot.
Happy Trails!
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12-11-2015, 12:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1996 34' Excella
Elberta
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 837
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Protagonist
The current price in my home zip code is $3.99 per gallon for propane. Convenience stores (what's a service station? Haven't seen one of those in decades) here don't carry propane, and in my part of the New Orleans metro area, there are only THREE places to buy bulk propane— U-haul, the Ice House, and the KoA Kampground. Where my kid brother lives, the price per gallon is $3.49 and many service stations do carry propane. But he lives in a small farming/ranching community, and I live in a major metropolitan area 750 miles away.
Propane prices and availability vary by region, so you can both be right, for different parts of the country.
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Check and see of there is a Tractor Supply store in the NOLA area. I'm in Elberta, AL, and our Tractor Supply in Robertsdale, AL is charging $1.85/gallon for LP.
For whatever it's worth
Larry
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12-11-2015, 12:44 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
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12-11-2015, 01:58 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari
Attleboro
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 71
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eu200i
I use the easy pour 2 1/2 gal cans. Much easier to see how much you have poured and easier to control the flow. My Honda generator dealer suggested using a stabilizer in all my gas year round. I use the same gas cans for my snowblower. I never know when the season is over for the snowblower. And I use the generators sometimes for camping, but they are never really put away for an extended time. I never run the snowblower or the generators dry and they all start on the first pull since I started putting stabil in all my gas.
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12-11-2015, 03:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' International
FREDERICK
, Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 539
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mefly2
Rotapax securely mounted in your bed ...
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That is what I do. I always keep the rotopax in my bed. Can use for the generators, and as spare gas when out fourwheeling/exploring the backcountry of the Four Corners. Ethanol free gas is getting harder and harder to find, so I just make sure that I only use E10 is possible. There are only about a couple of dozen gas stations in MD that sell ehtanol free gas, and most are at marinas or for racing.
From How much ethanol is in gasoline, and how does it affect fuel economy? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
There are three general categories of ethanol-gasoline blends: E10, E15, and E85. E10 is gasoline with 10% ethanol content; E15 is gasoline with 15% ethanol content; and E85 is a fuel that may contain up to 85% fuel ethanol. The ethanol content of most of the motor gasoline sold in the United Sates does not exceed 10% by volume. Most of the motor gasoline with more than 10% fuel ethanol content is sold in the Midwest, where most of ethanol production capacity is located. Gasoline dispensing pumps generally indicate the fuel ethanol content of the gasoline.
All gasoline engine vehicles can use E10. Currently, only flex-fuel and light-duty vehicles with a model year of 2001 or greater are approved by the EPA to use E15, although some automakers have yet to approve the use of E15 in their vehicles. Flex-fuel vehicles can use any ethanol-gasoline blends up to E85.
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