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Old 12-11-2015, 12:20 PM   #15
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Cheap Propane at Costco

In my experience, you will find propane at your local Costco for about half the price of other suppliers.

There you can also fill up your truck, have the tire service department check and top off the air pressure in all of your tires including the trailer and get a hotdog and poutine to boot.

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Old 12-11-2015, 12:20 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Protagonist View Post
The current price in my home zip code is $3.99 per gallon for propane. Convenience stores (what's a service station? Haven't seen one of those in decades) here don't carry propane, and in my part of the New Orleans metro area, there are only THREE places to buy bulk propane— U-haul, the Ice House, and the KoA Kampground. Where my kid brother lives, the price per gallon is $3.49 and many service stations do carry propane. But he lives in a small farming/ranching community, and I live in a major metropolitan area 750 miles away.

Propane prices and availability vary by region, so you can both be right, for different parts of the country.

Check and see of there is a Tractor Supply store in the NOLA area. I'm in Elberta, AL, and our Tractor Supply in Robertsdale, AL is charging $1.85/gallon for LP.
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Old 12-11-2015, 12:44 PM   #17
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Finding non alcohol gas:

Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada
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Old 12-11-2015, 12:44 PM   #18
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I use a metal safety can to transport gasoline for my generator. It does not let fuel odor pass through the wall of the container like a plastic gas can does.

Here is the can I use -

Is also noted in other posts, I also use alcohol free fuel. In Michigan it is named 100% gasoline recreational fuel. I use it in my boat too.
Here is the can I use. I also use Ethanol free fuel with stabilizer or sea foam added in my generators, 4 wheeler, and any other small engines. Also used it in my boat because ethanol attracts water they say.
Eagle UI-50-FS Red Galvanized Steel Type I Gasoline Safety Can with Funnel, 5 gallon Capacity, 13.5" Height, 12.5" Diameter: Hazardous Storage Cans: Patio, Lawn & Garden
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Old 12-11-2015, 01:58 PM   #19
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I use the easy pour 2 1/2 gal cans. Much easier to see how much you have poured and easier to control the flow. My Honda generator dealer suggested using a stabilizer in all my gas year round. I use the same gas cans for my snowblower. I never know when the season is over for the snowblower. And I use the generators sometimes for camping, but they are never really put away for an extended time. I never run the snowblower or the generators dry and they all start on the first pull since I started putting stabil in all my gas.
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Old 12-11-2015, 03:29 PM   #20
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That is what I do. I always keep the rotopax in my bed. Can use for the generators, and as spare gas when out fourwheeling/exploring the backcountry of the Four Corners. Ethanol free gas is getting harder and harder to find, so I just make sure that I only use E10 is possible. There are only about a couple of dozen gas stations in MD that sell ehtanol free gas, and most are at marinas or for racing.

From How much ethanol is in gasoline, and how does it affect fuel economy? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
There are three general categories of ethanol-gasoline blends: E10, E15, and E85. E10 is gasoline with 10% ethanol content; E15 is gasoline with 15% ethanol content; and E85 is a fuel that may contain up to 85% fuel ethanol. The ethanol content of most of the motor gasoline sold in the United Sates does not exceed 10% by volume. Most of the motor gasoline with more than 10% fuel ethanol content is sold in the Midwest, where most of ethanol production capacity is located. Gasoline dispensing pumps generally indicate the fuel ethanol content of the gasoline.

All gasoline engine vehicles can use E10. Currently, only flex-fuel and light-duty vehicles with a model year of 2001 or greater are approved by the EPA to use E15, although some automakers have yet to approve the use of E15 in their vehicles. Flex-fuel vehicles can use any ethanol-gasoline blends up to E85.
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Old 12-11-2015, 09:39 PM   #21
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ACE Hardware usually has cheap propane in bulk.
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Old 12-11-2015, 09:58 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by guskmg View Post
ACE Hardware usually has cheap propane in bulk.
The ones near me don't even have a parking lot big enough for my Interstate to enter for filling its on-board propane tank, so I never even thought of that. But for folks looking to refill their portable cylinders, that's certainly a viable option…
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Old 12-12-2015, 03:53 AM   #23
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I guess I am confused. I find the average about $2.25 to 2.50 a gallon for propane and it is available at most service stations and many rv parks. It may be not quite as efficient but your generator will last longer and it is cleaner burning. Second if you have a power outage at your main home you could use it off your gas supply to run your electric furnace. The conversion kit I have is gasoline/propane/and natural gas.
I have an EU2000i at home. They are very durable. I work in lower Manhattan, and virtually all the vendor carts that run generators use the EU2000 day in and day out. They put thousands of hours on them without a hiccough. I researched propane / natural gas conversion, given that long term storage of gas around the house raises a number of issues.

From what I have been reading, engine life is dramatically reduced by propane / natural gas conversions- on water cooled engines, life expectancy is reduced by 30%, and air cooled lifespan can be reduced by as much as 90%. That was disappointing to read, since natural gas is a reliable backup in a power outage, and propane has a very long shelf life.

Price of propane in northwestern NJ is about $2.50 if you bring in a small cylinder (up to 20 to 40 lb). Truck delivery to fill my 100 lb cylinder at the house is a bit more expensive, at between $4.66-5.50/gal.
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Old 12-12-2015, 06:01 AM   #24
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When did Honda start requiring 89 octane (mid-grade) gasoline? The Honda Handi 3000i I bought 5 ~ 6 years ago recommended REGULAR 87 Octane gasoline. Maybe I'm lucky but, I've never had a problem using gas that contained 10% ethanol (which is what is available in most gas stations these days). I do "run it dry" if I won't be using it for an extended time (which is just good practice for any small gas engine).
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Old 12-12-2015, 06:17 AM   #25
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Any generator should be run dry if it is not used at least once a week or any small engine for that matter.

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Old 12-12-2015, 06:34 AM   #26
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I have carried my Honda's for 4 years under a fiber top with no problems. I use 87 ethanol and have had not problems. You will need to vent. I had a gas can with limited venting and it "swelled up", I make sure my cans can vent. I carry a big funnel. I have just bought a new gas can from Amazon that I think will eliminate the need for a funnel and it has a nice gage to see how much you have put in. This will make it nice and no spills.
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.....snip "air cooled lifespan can be reduced by as much as 90%. That was disappointing to read, since natural gas is a reliable backup in a power outage, and propane has a very long shelf life."


Convince me.

LPG is a cleaner burning fuel.

Petrol...'kinda durty.



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Old 12-12-2015, 09:23 AM   #28
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Problem is that propane or natural gas is a 'dry' fuel that provides no lubrication to valve seats. Engines designed for gaseous fuels use different materials for valves and valve seats. Some conversion outfits suggest running a converted engine for a couple hours on gasoline to build up the deposits on valve and seats to help prevent issues. I don't have relative life data, but can see that converted engines may wear differently.

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