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Old 07-23-2012, 11:36 PM   #29
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turns out we are all correct

Is it Safe to Travel with My RV Refrigerator on Propane?

according to this at least
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:40 PM   #30
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However, for BC, it is illegal as per the following|

http://www.drivesmartbc.ca/rvs/operating-rvs-propane
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:54 PM   #31
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However, for BC, it is illegal as per the following|

http://www.drivesmartbc.ca/rvs/operating-rvs-propane
Well, then that would make more sense why your insurance company said it was a no-no.

In the US where we don't have regulations that forbid it, I don't think the insurance could refuse to cover you for doing something that the appliance manual says is safe.

Glad I upgraded to a 3 way fridge so I have 12v, in case I ever want to drive through BC with it running
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Keeping the fridge cold when the temps are in the 90's or above, and especially when the sun is on the fridge side, is hard enough when the propane is on. We do keep frozen gel packs in the freezer and use them when we go to the store to keep things cold in a cooler, plus as a backup should the fridge stop working. Keeping lots of stuff in there is also good because they keep temps down for a while.

As for provinces where propane is supposed to be turned off, I checked the most recent Woodall's list of driving laws for RV's and only Manitoba and Nova Scotia are listed: 2011 Driving Laws for the US and Canada Woodalls is not of course, the last word.

I looked over 5.1(3) concerning transportation of dangerous substances in BC. Little of it deals with small containers and nothing I saw specifically addressed RV propane tanks and whether they can be on. Mostly is was about what type of containers to use for such substances. I surely could have missed something because there are many references to other standards, but it seemed it was mostly about commercial transport. The reference to the BC Safety Authority was not conclusive either. There were general statements about propane safety and vehicles, but it was phrased in a way that sounded like the recommendations were for small propane canisters used with camp stoves carried inside a vehicle and not outside as trailer cylinders are.

Thus there are no clear answers, but my guess is BC does not require you to turn off propane while driving. This does not apply to BC ferries, but that's another question and a lot easier to get an answer for.

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Keeping the fridge cold when the temps are in the 90's or above, and especially when the sun is on the fridge side, is hard enough when the propane is on. We do keep frozen gel packs in the freezer and use them when we go to the store to keep things cold in a cooler, plus as a backup should the fridge stop working. Keeping lots of stuff in there is also good because they keep temps down for a while.

As for provinces where propane is supposed to be turned off, I checked the most recent Woodall's list of driving laws for RV's and only Manitoba and Nova Scotia are listed: 2011 Driving Laws for the US and Canada Woodalls is not of course, the last word.

I looked over 5.1(3) concerning transportation of dangerous substances in BC. Little of it deals with small containers and nothing I saw specifically addressed RV propane tanks and whether they can be on. Mostly is was about what type of containers to use for such substances. I surely could have missed something because there are many references to other standards, but it seemed it was mostly about commercial transport. The reference to the BC Safety Authority was not conclusive either. There were general statements about propane safety and vehicles, but it was phrased in a way that sounded like the recommendations were for small propane canisters used with camp stoves carried inside a vehicle and not outside as trailer cylinders are.

Thus there are no clear answers, but my guess is BC does not require you to turn off propane while driving. This does not apply to BC ferries, but that's another question and a lot easier to get an answer for.

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That was my conclusion to after reading that bunch of jumbo mumbo.
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For those of us who don't want the risk....

We are just back from a super 3-night camping trip to New Denver, BC on Slocan Lake.

We brought 3 large freezer/gel pacs and a couple of small ones. These live in the freezer compartment when the Dometic is turned on at night and some of them live in the fridge section with the food when it's turned off when we are driving. Last night before turning in (around 10:00 pm), we turned off the fridge completely, and rolled up back home around 4:00 pm today, with the fridge off the entire time. There was minimum melting of the cold pacs in either the freezer or the fridge by 4:00 and all the food was really cold.

We tend to relax with wine or beer rather than evening cocktails, but any ice in the freezer would probably still be frozen the next evening with this regimen.

On the way home we took the Kootenay Lake Ferry. The staff posted by the on-ramp make you turn off your RV propane if it is still on, and give you a hazardous materials sticker, besides.

In realizing we are not likely to change anyone's mind, we simply note that there are some low-impact alternatives.
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For those of us who don't want the risk....

We are just back from a super 3-night camping trip to New Denver, BC on Slocan Lake.

We brought 3 large freezer/gel pacs and a couple of small ones. These live in the freezer compartment when the Dometic is turned on at night and some of them live in the fridge section with the food when it's turned off when we are driving. Last night before turning in (around 10:00 pm), we turned off the fridge completely, and rolled up back home around 4:00 pm today, with the fridge off the entire time. There was minimum melting of the cold pacs in either the freezer or the fridge by 4:00 and all the food was really cold.

We tend to relax with wine or beer rather than evening cocktails, but any ice in the freezer would probably still be frozen the next evening with this regimen.

On the way home we took the Kootenay Lake Ferry. The staff posted by the on-ramp make you turn off your RV propane if it is still on, and give you a hazardous materials sticker, besides.

In realizing we are not likely to change anyone's mind, we simply note that there are some low-impact alternatives.
You have to remember some of us travel in 90-100 degree temps. the trailer can get even hotter in these temps too. I but your ice would have melted during that length and heat. But it does work and Gene ravels with his off a lot in those temps. I don't because I have four kids who are in and out during the trip. Plus I just don't see any reason not to. Other than you can if you want. Safety is a non-issue. Really it is...
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Gene ravels with his off a lot in those temps.
I'll have to unravel that. We travel with the propane on.

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Propane on.

I have always traveled with the fridg on and will continue to do so.
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I turn off the propane when traveling. I run the refrigerator off of 115V from a gasoline powered generator in the bed of the pick up. I brace it on all 4 sides with plastic 5 gallon gas cans so it won't move around. That also gives us plenty of fuel reserve. We have a canopy over the truck bed, but we crack open the side windows to minimize the CO in the truck cab. This also has the added benefit of allowing the driver to watch the trailer's TV in the rear view mirror. You just can't be too careful. That propane is dangerous stuff.

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Ken, why don't you put the cat in an enlarged squirrel cage to generate electricity. They hate traveling, so they will run really fast, and if they slacken off, give the cat some meth. This would be much safer.

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I'm in the final stages of developing a small nuclear reactor to power my refrigerator whilst driving. It will ride in the shower, next to our cat's litter box. The reactor is only going to be used to produce electrical power... I promise.
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Ken, why don't you put the cat in an enlarged squirrel cage to generate electricity. They hate traveling, so they will run really fast, and if they slacken off, give the cat some meth. This would be much safer.

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There is not enough meth in the whole world to make a cat do what you want it to. I am going tie one of these to my bumper.

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