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Old 01-02-2013, 12:53 PM   #29
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I knew Lynn would explain it.

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I knew Lynn would explain it.

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Yep. Lynn explained it well enough that even I could understand it, thick-skulled as I am. Now if only Lynn could explain it to the people selling propane, who probably are doing the mental math the way I erroneously did…
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:06 PM   #31
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Ah, I do sell propane. Alas, life would be much easier at the moment if our scale weren't so filled with ice and snow.

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Yep. Lynn explained it well enough that even I could understand it, thick-skulled as I am. Now if only Lynn could explain it to the people selling propane, who probably are doing the mental math the way I erroneously did…
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I didn't understand it that well either, but it seemed to come out to 7 gal. I always watch them when they fill it to make sure they do not fill it more.

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Ah, I do sell propane. Alas, life would be much easier at the moment if our scale weren't so filled with ice and snow.

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No offense meant. You're not one of the sellers short-filling tanks, either. But it seems to me that based on the experienes of people getting short-fills, that the people selling them propane were doing the math the way I did, and assuming that they would have to fill a 30-pound tank to only 24 pounds, not to 30.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:18 PM   #34
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Let's see,

Screw in fill hose to POL connection, open main valve on tank, open "spit" valve on tank, open valve on fill hose, turn on pump, when spit valve starts to spit fuel turn off fill hose valve, close spit valve, close main valve, turn off pump, unscrew fill hose. Tank is filled to 80% with room for expansion.

Yeah, that's so hard it required that every tank in the USA needed to have the valves replaced. Makes you wonder who came up with that idea, the valve company, tank company or the government for a way to line a few pockets of friends in that business.

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Old 01-02-2013, 01:25 PM   #35
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Almost the same with on board tank for mh, but when close to spitting, nozzle has to be going slow not full tilt, new operators tend to figure automatic pumps and shutoffs from gasoline similar, not. Make sure your propane refrigerator isn't on and don't use it until you have had a day of not smelling overflow propane.
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In the US, it was the National Fire Protection Association, the NFPA, that mandated OPD valves (see NFPA #58, Liquified Petroleum Gas Code). The various states are free to come up with their own codes, of course; they are usually some variety of the codes in NFPA #58.

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Let's see,

Screw in fill hose to POL connection, open main valve on tank, open "spit" valve on tank, open valve on fill hose, turn on pump, when spit valve starts to spit fuel turn off fill hose valve, close spit valve, close main valve, turn off pump, unscrew fill hose. Tank is filled to 80% with room for expansion.

Yeah, that's so hard it required that every tank in the USA needed to have the valves replaced. Makes you wonder who came up with that idea, the valve company, tank company or the government for a way to line a few pockets of friends in that business.

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Old 01-02-2013, 01:52 PM   #37
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As of today in Fort Myers, FL at Ameri-gas it is $2.89/gal.
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I paid $28.89 the last two times I filled a 40. Most recently December, 31st and before that on November 19th.

I fill my bottles at a storage place, not U-Haul, a locally owned place. They fill by weight and know what they are doing. Interestingly, they told me that Arkansas does not require OPD valves, although that was a few years back when there was the big move to adopt them. However, it looks like attrition is taking care of the switch anyway.
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Always buy by the gallon in the MT WY CO TX NM AZ area. Cost varies from $2.65 to $2.90. Haven't had a vender use a scales in years.
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Vendors in NM are supposed to use a scale at all times (for environmental reasons), but I know that at least several of them don't bother, namely, some places where I've had our cylinders filled while on vacation.

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Today, 01/02/13, propane was $2.10 per gallon at the Costco in north Phoenix (19001 N. 27th Ave, Phoenix, AZ 85027-5036, I-17 & Yorkshire).
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:35 PM   #42
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Lynn,

From the NFPA website:

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NFPA oversees the operations of several advocacy campaigns dedicated to increasing fire safety and awareness, including the Fire Sprinkler Initiative, Bringing Safety Home; the Coalition for Fire-Safe Cigarettes™; and the Alliance to Stop Consumer Fireworks.

Looks like they have there hands in a bunch of stuff??

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