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Old 02-01-2014, 04:34 PM   #1
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Aluminum Propane Tank recertification?

We live in Canada, but bought our AS (used) in the US.

It has the two typical 30# Aluminum propane tanks with gauges and remotes.

I don't have the trailer at the house, but the trailer itself is 2005, so I am guessing that the tanks could be getting close to needing recertification - if that is required on aluminum tanks.

Can anyone tell me what the US requirements are in this regard for aluminum tanks?

If you follow the letter of the law, these US made tanks cannot be refilled in Canada (I did inquire from the authorities!) although I have found some places that don't appear to know that!

I did find that our local Costco store refused to fill them but a nearby Canadian Tire store did!

Usually we travel with the trailer in the US anyway so it isn't a problem.

Just wondering though if I will soon need to get them recertified? If so, I'm guessing it just requires a hydrostatic test, and that any major propane dealer could do it for us when we are in the US.

We have one empty tank at the moment and will be heading south later this month.

Appreciate any advice or comment.


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Old 02-01-2014, 04:59 PM   #2
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In the US, they'll need to be recertified at the 12 years after manufacture. You'll see it marked on the collar of the tank with month and year. (Canadian law differs in this regard, I think.)

If the two cylinders are of roughly the same age as the AS, they'll already have OPD valves.

You'll need to locate a propane dealer (not just a filler) to get the recertification done. Some of them collect a fee for this; others will do it for free. It'll usually be a visual recertification, good for five years and indicated by an "E" with new month and date.


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In the US, they'll need to be recertified at the 12 years after manufacture.
And then every 5 years thereafter.
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In the US, they'll need to be recertified at the 12 years after manufacture. You'll see it marked on the collar of the tank with month and year. (Canadian law differs in this regard, I think.)

If the two cylinders are of roughly the same age as the AS, they'll already have OPD valves.

You'll need to locate a propane dealer (not just a filler) to get the recertification done. Some of them collect a fee for this; others will do it for free. It'll usually be a visual recertification, good for five years and indicated by an "E" with new month and date.


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I plead ignorance to recertification. As long as the tanks are OPD I have never been questioned. I think certification requirements vary state to state.
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Marshall, it is a little tricky in the US because we have 50 different sets of laws. However, those laws generally conform to the recommendations set forth by the National Fire Protection Association, Pub. 58:

NFPA 58: Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code

It is that publication that specifies the certification requirements for our RV propane cylinders.


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There is a local propane company who I deal with that certify's and fills. They do a visual.
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Our 2005 25FB came with steel LP tanks. After we had had it about two years, I ran across two 30# Aluminum LP tanks at a garage sale for $10 each. They were made in 1971. I scooped these up and had them fitted with modern valves. They were never re-certified. Over the last six years, I had them filled countless rimes at many different locations all over the United States. No one ever asked about certification.

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If the cylinders simply look really sharp, it's probably fairly easy to get them filled. Many fillers will, I'm sure, simply overlook the date.

It is a little tricky, though. In US states that require a filler's license, filling a cylinder in this way would generally be grounds for losing the license. It'd be a heavy price to pay.


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Our 2005 25FB came with steel LP tanks. After we had had it about two years, I ran across two 30# Aluminum LP tanks at a garage sale for $10 each. They were made in 1971. I scooped these up and had them fitted with modern valves. They were never re-certified. Over the last six years, I had them filled countless rimes at many different locations all over the United States. No one ever asked about certification.

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Our 2005 25FB came with steel LP tanks. After we had had it about two years, I ran across two 30# Aluminum LP tanks at a garage sale for $10 each. They were made in 1971. I scooped these up and had them fitted with modern valves. They were never re-certified. Over the last six years, I had them filled countless rimes at many different locations all over the United States. No one ever asked about certification.

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You may have been overlooked but that's certainly not the case for us. I'm surprised (and pleased I guess) that people filling my tanks are aware of certification expiration. On the other hand, the certification does seem to simply be a visual inspection.

On steel tanks (that might rust) apparently the visual inspection includes a measurement for a % of metal loss due to rust. I think the metal loss is measured in depth of the pock mark/divet formed when the rust flakes off.

The person that installed your new OPD valves should have inspected your tanks at that time and scribed them or otherwise marked them with new expiration dates. As said above, I think it's every 5 years thereafter.
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If all else fails, I think you can buy 30 pound propane tanks at Costco for $39.99, each (if my memory is correct).
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I had a bit of a struggle finding someone to recertify mine, finally found a place that does fork lift tanks that was able to do it. Nobody wanted to do the aluminum tanks for some reason, one place claimed they didn't make them anymore. After mine were recertified I haven't had any problem getting them filled, they look at the OPD valve and fill away.

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Indeed the aluminum tanks are funny
I've had places refuse to fill my #40 as they assumed them to be forklift tanks and they had license issues.....
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Very recently at a Pilot/ flying J I was asked for drivers license and vehicle tag info.... I asked why the super security and was told a new FL law starting 1/2014

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Thanks to all for the info! If it is 12 years, I may be ok for a bit yet. I will check the date on the tanks when we pull the trailer out of storage in a couple of weeks to head for Az. (as long as we are not snowed in!)

I think that if it turned out to be a hassle to get them certified (due to being aluminum) I might just switch to regular 20lb steel bottles. We don't use a lot of propane in the trailer, the smaller bottles would be easier to handle, and also I generally have a few full new at home due to my home brewing hobby!

Thanks again for the info!

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Nope, I don't think there will be any hassle at all to get them certified. They're a little tougher to buy OPD valves for because of the somewhat longer dip tube, but certification will be a snap if they're otherwise in good shape.


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