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03-03-2019, 08:41 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 23' Safari
Middletown
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 546
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2 new aluminum 20# lp tanks
Hi I have an opportunity to buy 2 never used 20# aluminum worthington lp tanks for $125 for both, is this a good deal? I plan on using them on my 1972, 23 ft Safari. I currently have 30# steel tanks on my airstream. How long do the 20 lb tanks usually last when boondocking? I know a loaded question and different answers for different scenarios. I'm thinking about 3 days of boondocking, using stove, oven, shower and fridge.
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03-03-2019, 09:07 AM
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2017 25' International
Niagara-on-the-Lake
, ON Canada
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,837
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How long does your 30# tank last? A 20# tank will last about 2/3 as long.
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03-03-2019, 09:14 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,320
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Check the dates on the, as well. They need to be recertified every 12 years. This thread might help. http://www.airforums.com/forums/f287...on-115746.html
It’s a good deal to answer your first question if they are fairly current.
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03-03-2019, 09:31 AM
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Vintage Only
1966 26' Overlander
Ramona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 109
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I paid less than $10 recently to have mine recertified at the local propane dealer. $125 for 2 tanks is a good price.
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03-03-2019, 09:31 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
1976 31' Excella 500
1974 31' Excella 500
1975 24' Argosy 24
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,106
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Are your tanks bad? Just wondering why you'd switch from 30's to 20's. Perhaps because they're aluminum and not steel (which is a valid consideration). That's a good price for two aluminum tanks (if they're in good condition), but I personally prefer larger tanks.
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2006 Jeep Liberty CRD (diesel)
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03-03-2019, 09:33 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
1976 31' Excella 500
1974 31' Excella 500
1975 24' Argosy 24
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,106
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daleyocum
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Actually, every state has its own rules. here in Colorado it's 10 years after manufacture and every *five* years thereafter. But it's only around $10/tank to certify.
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03-03-2019, 09:45 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 25' Excella
2011 19' Flying Cloud
Santa Ynez
, California
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,185
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Carrying two 30# tanks for OUR typical 7-10 day summer camping trips is overkill, Now change that to winter time and you are glad they are there.
I used to wonder why AS trailers had so much propane capacity when you have such limited water, waste water and battery capacity, that was until we camped in cold weather and had to run the furnace.
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Alan
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03-03-2019, 10:06 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 23' Safari
Middletown
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 546
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The tanks are brand new never been used. Yes they’re aluminum and the 30’s I have now are steel. I plan on polishing the airstream this spring along with tanks. We only use the airstream during summer months. Thanks.
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03-03-2019, 11:51 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
1976 31' Excella 500
1974 31' Excella 500
1975 24' Argosy 24
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,106
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlinCal
Carrying two 30# tanks for OUR typical 7-10 day summer camping trips is overkill, Now change that to winter time and you are glad they are there.
I used to wonder why AS trailers had so much propane capacity when you have such limited water, waste water and battery capacity, that was until we camped in cold weather and had to run the furnace.
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It's not just about *one trip* though. I would hate to have to fill my tanks before *every* adventure.
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03-03-2019, 12:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 25' Excella
2011 19' Flying Cloud
Santa Ynez
, California
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,185
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It's not a one size fits all that's for sure, but carrying a month worth of gas seams more than enough for us.
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Alan
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03-03-2019, 12:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Globetrotter
Apollo Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,401
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I use 20# propane exchange tanks on my solar powered Airstream. I primarily dry camp and use propane for refrigeration, heat, hot water, cooking, and occasional AC and microwave use with my propane fueled generator. I believe a 20# tank lasts me for 10 to 14 days. I prefer to just stop at a Walmart for a $15 exchange tank rather than find a place to refill the tanks. Occasionally, I get the exchange tanks refilled if its convenient and fairly priced.
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03-03-2019, 01:37 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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Sounds like a good deal and you can always transition back to the steel tanks if you are not happy with the 20's. Polished aluminum will look great. However, the aluminum tanks listed by on-line providers suggest that scratches and marks should be expected. Polishing may be a big job and some scratches may not buff out. Pat
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03-03-2019, 02:58 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 23' Safari
Middletown
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 546
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PKI
Sounds like a good deal and you can always transition back to the steel tanks if you are not happy with the 20's. Polished aluminum will look great. However, the aluminum tanks listed by on-line providers suggest that scratches and marks should be expected. Polishing may be a big job and some scratches may not buff out. Pat
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Yeah the ones I just got were still in the box never used no scratches. I Found them on Facebook marketplace. I think the manufactured dates on them are 2016.
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03-04-2019, 06:36 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1999 28' Excella
Lake Mary
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 256
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Yes, but how old are the aluminum tanks? Remember that all tanks now require a OPD, and some LP stations will no longer re-certify a tank that does not have one. In fact, with new DOT regs, many LP Gas vendors would rather sell you a new tank than run the risk of re-certifying your old tank.
Personally, I would just buy two new 30 lb cylinders and wax them with car polish wax once a year, you dont even need to buff the wax!
OPD Cylinder Valves. OPD stands for "overfilling prevention device" or "overfill protection device" and is required on all 4 to 40 pound DOT cylinders in vapor service. The OPD valve is simply a protective device that, as the name implies, prevents overfilling of a propane cylinder.
Here is latest info on DOT regs for LP tanks
http://www.propane101.com/consumerpropanecylinders.htm
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03-04-2019, 08:22 PM
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Overland Adventurer
1991 34' Excella
2009 34' Panamerica
Telluride
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,476
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That's a good deal, I have #40 aluminum on my 34's... Couldn't live without the extra capacity.
Buy them, sell them and use the profit to buy #30 tanks. VTS has them, check out pricing there.
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03-04-2019, 08:23 PM
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Overland Adventurer
1991 34' Excella
2009 34' Panamerica
Telluride
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,476
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FYI, those exchange tanks are not full... Only 15 pounds or so! Rip-off!
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03-04-2019, 08:38 PM
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Take me back to the 70's
1970 21' Globetrotter
1971 29' Ambassador
1977 20' Argosy 20
Boston
, MA
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mx468
Yeah the ones I just got were still in the box never used no scratches. .
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If you decide you don't want them, I'll take em for my lil trotter, being around the corner and all..
Jami
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03-04-2019, 09:44 PM
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:SPACE A" S/O 11 Air19745
2006 34' Classic S/O
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,766
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On an exchange tank: do the math and you will see you are paying twice as much for propane than if you have them refilled yourself. Not only do they charge you more than a full refill would cost, but they only fill the tank partially. My ACE hardware will fill any 20# tank for $14.00. I've heard of less.
guskmg
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03-05-2019, 01:46 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
Currently Looking...
Versailles
, Indiana
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 264
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We have an old pair of aluminum 30# tanks which I was thinking of using for our 1966 Safari. Since these have the old style valves, I know we would need to have the valves updated to the new triangular ones and have them recertified. Has anyone had experience with the cost of switching out the valves?
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2005 Safari 25
WBCCI #4447
AIR #70157
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03-05-2019, 03:21 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
1976 31' Excella 500
1974 31' Excella 500
1975 24' Argosy 24
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,106
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhino33
We have an old pair of aluminum 30# tanks which I was thinking of using for our 1966 Safari. Since these have the old style valves, I know we would need to have the valves updated to the new triangular ones and have them recertified. Has anyone had experience with the cost of switching out the valves?
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Just did a post on this last week! Don't know if these are the same "vintage valves" you have, but maybe the post will be helpful.
http://beahmstream.com/vintage-propane-tank-valves/
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