View Poll Results: Will you leave the WBCCI if the MOHO motion passes?
Leave if/when it passes? 25 19.23%
Will not renew membership for 2008? 48 36.92%
Will stay, no matter what? 36 27.69%
Will stay and fight to get it over turned? 21 16.15%
Voters: 130. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-16-2007, 09:58 PM   #15
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The WBCCI is MY club too. I'm staying in.
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Old 03-16-2007, 11:27 PM   #16
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I had a hard time selecting which answer to select in the poll. I don't hate motorhomes, I simply don't like camping with them. I got boxed in between two of them for almost a week at a regional rally and couldn't see anything from my trailer windows except the slab side of a fiberglass motorhome. The RV lifestyle of a MH vs a trailer is significantly different. Hardly ever saw the occupants of the MH's parked around me, except when I looked up at their MH and they'd look down through a window. Trailerists get together and are more congenial. During the open house phase of the rally not one MH owner participated. I wonder why?
If a MH owner wants to belong to a club there are some very good MH clubs around. Yet, the MH clubs don't allow trailers in their organizations do they? There are even a growing number of RV campgrounds that don't allow trailers in.
There is no doubt in my mind that if the Four Winds MH is allowed into the club that will be the end of the WBCCI as an AIRSTREAM club. Once that happens all Thor products will eventually become eligible. Why stop with just the Four Winds? That's the direction the WBCCI is heading and when it does I'll leave.
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Old 03-17-2007, 12:31 AM   #17
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We'll we aren't members.. yet... but as new Airstream owners, we are perhaps one of the many new AS owners that supposedly would join to keep the club alive.

All I seem to read about is all the politics, rules yada yada yada.

Maybe we are in the minority... we just want to travel, meet people and enjoy camping...

Personally I'd be all in on an Airstream 'camping' club considing of other folks who have Airstream trailers that love to camp... oh well...
Hi, you pretty much said how I feel. Belong to the big Airstream club and continue a tradition? Sounds good, But reality is, what I've read on this forum, Politics, complaints, and rules rules rules. This doesn't sound like a fun club to me. And I have a hard time believeing this is what Wally Byam wanted and practiced. I thought it was cool to have those big red numbers on your Airstream; Now I think it's cool, to not have them.
I don't want someone pointing at my trailer and saying my flags are unauthorized or not displayed properly. That upsets me and I don't even have any flags; And maybe never will, but I will have a good time camping without this club.
Back to the basics. Airstream owners traveling and camping together enjoying life, with or without the big red numbers.
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Old 03-17-2007, 06:07 AM   #18
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Old 03-17-2007, 06:41 AM   #19
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If I go there will be trouble.
And if I stay there will be double.
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Old 03-17-2007, 07:14 AM   #20
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Old 03-17-2007, 08:17 AM   #21
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Old 03-17-2007, 08:33 AM   #22
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Hi, you pretty much said how I feel. Belong to the big Airstream club and continue a tradition? Sounds good, But reality is, what I've read on this forum, Politics, complaints, and rules rules rules. This doesn't sound like a fun club to me. And I have a hard time believeing this is what Wally Byam wanted and practiced. I thought it was cool to have those big red numbers on your Airstream; Now I think it's cool, to not have them.
I don't want someone pointing at my trailer and saying my flags are unauthorized or not displayed properly. That upsets me and I don't even have any flags; And maybe never will, but I will have a good time camping without this club.
Back to the basics. Airstream owners traveling and camping together enjoying life, with or without the big red numbers.
When I bought my B-van, I thought long and hard about whether I wanted to join WBCCI. My parents are members and I distinctly recall some business meetings that went on and on and on and on... while we were camping! Hello?! What finally convinced me to join was that I heard, from several people, that the chapter I was going to join was not like the unit my parents had belonged to.

I've found that WBCCI is much better if you stay out of this forum (I was bored this morning and wandered in). Further, the chapter I joined, and there are others like this, is all about the camping - business meetings are kept very short, and we're really there just to have fun. That much was obvious after about 1 day of camping with them.

Will I depart WBCCI? Well, all these discussions and even some of the posts in this thread have really made me feel like a third-class citizen in this club - and I don't even have one of the motorhomes they're bitching about. For a while, several months ago, after reading some of the threads in this very forum, I regretted renewing.

But, then I remembered that I was made to feel VERY welcome at the WDCU rally I went to last summer, so I know this anti-motorhome sentiment isn't everyone in the club. So, I'm sticking with the WDCU - the fact that it's part of WBCCI is almost irrelevant.

So, that's my advice to prospective members: find a unit that's fun and stick with them. Let the politics to those who want to play them and just ... go camping!
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Old 03-17-2007, 09:59 AM   #23
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:43 AM   #24
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Hi, you pretty much said how I feel. Belong to the big Airstream club and continue a tradition? Sounds good, But reality is, what I've read on this forum, Politics, complaints, and rules rules rules. This doesn't sound like a fun club to me. And I have a hard time believeing this is what Wally Byam wanted and practiced. I thought it was cool to have those big red numbers on your Airstream; Now I think it's cool, to not have them.
I don't want someone pointing at my trailer and saying my flags are unauthorized or not displayed properly. That upsets me and I don't even have any flags; And maybe never will, but I will have a good time camping without this club.
Back to the basics. Airstream owners traveling and camping together enjoying life, with or without the big red numbers.
I seldom hear club politics at a unit rally, the only time my flags received a comment was a the only forum rally we attended. The right unit is fun and you can ignore the politics. We have met many people, face to face who I can recognize and call by actual name, not internet handle, who we would not met otherwise and we now call them friends. Some of these people are all over the US thanks to WBCCI. The units are about camping. I still think it is cool to have the numbers.

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Old 03-17-2007, 12:10 PM   #25
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I didn't join WBCCI for the privilege of paying $75/year just to camp with friends and family. I can do that without WBCCI. In fact, it's probably easier outside of WBCCI. I joined WBCCI because I wanted to be a part of the traditional club of Airstreamers, its history and connection to Wally Byam. If the SOB motion passes, I won't stick around to watch it morph into the Thor Travelcade club. Instead I'll move on with the many other forward thinking Airstreamers on this forum and elsewhere to the next generation Airstream club.
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Old 03-17-2007, 01:41 PM   #26
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Hi, you pretty much said how I feel. Belong to the big Airstream club and continue a tradition? Sounds good, But reality is, what I've read on this forum, Politics, complaints, and rules rules rules. This doesn't sound like a fun club to me. And I have a hard time believeing this is what Wally Byam wanted and practiced. I thought it was cool to have those big red numbers on your Airstream; Now I think it's cool, to not have them.
I don't want someone pointing at my trailer and saying my flags are unauthorized or not displayed properly. That upsets me and I don't even have any flags; And maybe never will, but I will have a good time camping without this club.
Back to the basics. Airstream owners traveling and camping together enjoying life, with or without the big red numbers.


I am not a member of WBCCI.
I read the forum threads and always get to:
Why would I want to be??
Bicker, bicker.
It reads here like a runaway train wreck about to happen, you squint but have to watch, knowing there will be a disaster, hoping someone blows the bridge in time.

But now I JUST GOTTA KNOW:
ROBERTSUNRUS, Whats the deal with how I fly my flag??? Really I want to know more. No pirate flags? No 48 star flags??

I tried to join WBCCI once, back when, when I was first exploring owning an Airstream or other vintage aluminum travel trailer and wanted to read up on them, perhaps peruse the club newsletter, learn years/models and as said before “…to be a part of the traditional club of Airstreamers, its history and connection to Wally Byam” etc.

They wouldn’t let me join! Because I didn’t OWN an Airstream. I explained I’m trying to decide which year & model to PURCHASE and “ Doesn’t matter!” was the response. Whatever!

Now I can join but it appears I may not get a vote if I’m not a “chapter” member?

Why would I want to join now? Anyone??

An aluminum travel trailer club…hmmmm, interesting.

I can find plenty of motorhome clubs to join. Nice folks I’m sure.
I’ve “camped” near newer gazillion dollar giant motorhomes and even pulled stakes at 1AM to get away from generators and bright “security” lights.

Then I found the Airstream Forums. NICE! I’ve met a LOT of really nice, REALLY helpful folks through the forums. Made new friends. Gone to rallies. Really appreciate the open houses. It’s been a great learning tool and really helped me fix up and enjoy my 1964 Airstream Safari.

But, Really tell me about the flags! Can I hang my laundry!! Wash my dog??
As a “prospective” member I just gotta hear this one.

Almost joined your club, it happened just the other day…

“But I didn't and I wonder why, I feel like letting my freak flag fly, cause I feel like I owe it to someone.”


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Old 03-17-2007, 02:57 PM   #27
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I had a hard time selecting which answer to select in the poll. I don't hate motorhomes, I simply don't like camping with them. I got boxed in between two of them for almost a week at a regional rally and couldn't see anything from my trailer windows except the slab side of a fiberglass motorhome. The RV lifestyle of a MH vs a trailer is significantly different. Hardly ever saw the occupants of the MH's parked around me, except when I leave.
what do you see parked between 2 silver twinkies that have been polished ?you see brighr reflitive sun. as far as not seeing the people maybe just maybe they are out biking or exploring.If I wanted to sit around the camper and barbq and drink We all can sit home and do that. the life style is not differant in any way. your at a camp site I'm at a camp site we are both camping right? You want to sit by your TT and I like to bike ride around the area. Ask 2air he bikes. but he has a TT. So don't say that there is a differant life style. it's what you make of your camping experience..
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Old 03-17-2007, 03:12 PM   #28
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Though it's not a scientific poll by any means, I find it interesting that it's near 50/50. Even if in the end, it's 80/20, with 80% staying, can the club really take a 20% hit? 10%,30% loss of membership?

It's truely sad when a club that is for the group goes out and does something that a fairly significant number of members is against. It really makes me wonder whom this club is really serving.

Best of luck to you all. Glad we have forum rallys!
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