View Poll Results: Why did leave WBCCI ?
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Cost too much
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Not enough value for the membership fee
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28.92% |
Too many rules
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37.35% |
I don't need to belong to group to enjoy camping
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34.94% |
Bad experience
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18.07% |
Other reason(s)
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09-05-2017, 04:33 PM
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#141
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4 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Gold Country
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 334
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
$80 per year is only too much of you do not participate.
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If you're going to be so sensitive to grammar/spelling, you're going to get called on it. You've raised the bar for everyone .
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09-05-2017, 04:34 PM
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#142
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Rivet Master
2005 30' Classic
Burlington
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,743
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I joined, but probably should have known better!
I'm not much into caravans, rallies and such, and prefer the flexibility of just doing our own thing.
I hope I am not anti-social, I do enjoy socialising, but much much more in small numbers than in large groups and in very organised situations!
I thought it might be worthwhile for me to join anyway when we bought the AS, if only for the club magazine - but it was not - I hoped for much more technical info, but the magazine seemed devoted far more to rallies, info on meetings and pictures of people with berets on (Nothing against berets!)
As well, at the time I joined, there seemed an awful lot of stuff going around in terms of internal politics, people threatening to sue others etc., so after two years I decided to just use the $80 a year for other things.
I have heard a lot of good things about WBCCI, and don't doubt at all it is a great organisation for many folk - it just wasn't for me.
As far as the tech info I had hoped to get from the club mag, there is way more right here on this excellent forum with lots of very knowlegeable and helpful contributors!
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Brian & Connie Mitchell
2005 Classic 30'
Hensley Arrow / Centramatics
2008 GMC Sierra SLT 2500HD,4x4,Crew Cab, Diesel, Leer cap.
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09-05-2017, 06:00 PM
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#143
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4 Rivet Member
2017 27' Flying Cloud
London
, Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 250
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Sue each other! Wow. I don't currently belong, and I fail to see why I would, given many of the posts on this thread.
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09-05-2017, 06:16 PM
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#144
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Why did you leave WBCCI
Quote:
Originally Posted by NorCal Matt
If you're going to be so sensitive to grammar/spelling, you're going to get called on it. You've raised the bar for everyone .
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Fat fingered typo-
I tried to go back and edit, but the time frame for editing has expired.
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
TAC #MS-10
WBCCI #1811, Region 6, Unit 56
Airforums #70955
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09-05-2017, 06:29 PM
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#145
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4 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Gold Country
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 334
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
Fat fingered typo-
I tried to go back and edit, but the time frame for editing has expired.
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I do appreciate your input, and totally get the autocorrect... but I. Couldn't. Resist!! (
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09-05-2017, 07:53 PM
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#146
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3 Rivet Member
2000 25' Safari
Denver
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 209
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How about why I did join?
There is a story about a man sitting on his porch. A car drives up and asks " What type of people live around here? We're looking to move."
The guy asks," What are the people like where you live now?"
"They are not friendly. We don't know our neighbors."
The guy on the porch tells them, " They are the same here." and the car moves on.
Another car stops and asks about the people, they have to move for a better job.
They are asked the same question.
They answer," We know everyone in the neighborhood. We have potluck suppers and we'll miss them."
The guy on the porch tells them," You'll find the people here are just like that."
OK here's why I joined.
When I was looking for an Airstream I had the usual difficulty with Craig's List scams and non-responsive Air Forum Classified listings. I got some good advice from a local AS resource to reach out to the local units and ask if there were any leads on for sale AS from the unit members. I wrote to the President, VP and membership chairman in NC, SC, GA, and VA. for every unit listed on the WBCCI.
Only one unit responded.
I was invited to a rally to chat up the members about AS's in general and network about potential trailers for sale. That gave me great confidence in the unit that responded. It made me wonder why the other units didn't respond.
I did buy a trailer and within 3 hours of picking it up, I was with the unit at a rally. I joined WBCCI between the deposit check and pickup. BECAUSE of the people.
My decision has been reinforced by the people in the unit. They have been supportive and helpful. They have been open to ideas and know how to have a good time.
In the last year, I have been on rallies with members of those non-responsive units. Their attitude towards new and younger ( I am only 4 years retired ) members is less than welcoming. I think that if I had joined any of the other units, I would not be sending in my dues for the second year.
This forum is fantastic but it doesn't beat 4 fellow AS owners crawling over and under your unit when you casually mention a small problem at happy hour. It's really nice to have such a support system.
Maybe I'd have met some of these people on my own. But I doubt I would let any SOB owner crawl around my AS with tools.
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09-06-2017, 03:07 AM
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#147
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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The Unit I am with encourages younger members because they realize without younger members the club will die when they do.
We are the youngest members in any RV club we are affiliated with.
We still work.
I'll say 90-95% of RV club members are retired.
We were denied entrance to one club because we aren't retired.
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
TAC #MS-10
WBCCI #1811, Region 6, Unit 56
Airforums #70955
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09-06-2017, 04:28 AM
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#148
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Traveler
2017 25' International
Staunton
, Virginia
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 939
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
I'll say 90-95% of RV club members are retired.
We were denied entrance to one club because we aren't retired.
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I met a guy on the road that was 33 and retired. I think he had sold a company. He was in an airstream interstate. Would they take him? Not that he'd wanna pay to hang out with a bunch of 70-year olds but I'm curious if it's a work/money thing or an age thing?
Or I wonder what they'd think of me... I'm retired but my wife ain't even close. I bet that would throw em for a loop!
Also what if you retire but then ya have a financial situation and gotta start workin again? Would they throw ya out? Would they stop associating with ya?
These exclusive club type folks fascinate me. I never got it. I rarely need company but, if I do, it ain't hard to find free of charge.
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09-06-2017, 05:43 AM
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#149
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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None of that matters.
Everyone is welcome.
I've never heard of anyone being thrown out for any reason.
Working people can't go on caravans, but can attend rallies.
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
TAC #MS-10
WBCCI #1811, Region 6, Unit 56
Airforums #70955
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09-06-2017, 06:52 AM
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#150
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Rivet Master
1996 34' Excella
Elberta
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 837
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PKI
Ironic that this type of discussion is quite similar to what drives folks away from WBCCI. "If you don't do it just so and so, we don't want you around."
Used to get excited about language skills until dealing with a large number of "English is a second or third language for me" scientists and managers. Learning to deal with variance was a much better way to get business done. Similar case with forums. Get on with life. It's too short to waste. Pat
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This is exactly the reason we were members for only two years....every one in the chapter we were in were part of "the Good Ole Boy" network that prevailed.
Newcomers were not welcomed and they made it very clear.....Never again, let them stew in their own juice!
Larry
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09-06-2017, 08:18 AM
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#151
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,491
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Wow - I find that what I get out of something is in direct proportion to what I put into it - I have made great lifelong friends from the wbcci - and gone to places I never dreamed of - ummm where/what is Escanaba [emoji4]
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1956 Flying Cloud
Founder :
Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
Rally
Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
restoration rally
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09-06-2017, 08:19 AM
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#152
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry C
This is exactly the reason we were members for only two years....every one in the chapter we were in were part of "the Good Ole Boy" network that prevailed.
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You shouldn't let the collective attitude of a single WBCCI Unit color your opinion of the entire club.
As previously stated, I'm on my third Unit right now. The first was a hideous experience, which I will not discuss here on the Forums but might be persuaded to tell around a campfire sometime.
The second Unit was a nice bunch— at least the ones that I met before I joined their Unit— but geographically too far away for me to participate in any of their scheduled events, mainly due to other commitments closer to home that I didn't expect to have when I joined their Unit. Not their fault.
The third Unit looks like it will be a keeper, a good bunch and near enough that I can actually do things with them, in spite of my other commitments.
I've been in WBCCI for 5½ years now (January 2012 to present). I've met a lot of good people. I've met a very— luckily very few— that I wouldn't spit on if they were on fire. WBCCI isn't a single entity, it's people. And like people everywhere, everyone in WBCCI is different and should be judged on their own merits.
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I thought getting old would take longer!
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09-06-2017, 09:21 AM
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#153
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry C
This is exactly the reason we were members for only two years....every one in the chapter we were in were part of "the Good Ole Boy" network that prevailed.
Newcomers were not welcomed and they made it very clear.....Never again, let them stew in their own juice!
Larry
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Come to a Mississippi Unit rally.
It won't be that way at all.
I am the youngest and one of the few members still working.
Those old folks are awesome.
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
TAC #MS-10
WBCCI #1811, Region 6, Unit 56
Airforums #70955
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09-06-2017, 02:44 PM
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#154
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Opinionated newb...
2018 25' Flying Cloud
League City
, TX
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 479
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I for one will give it a try, some of you are wonderful ambassadors for the organization.
What you describe appeals greatly to me, and I have no problem walking away from unpleasantness...
Recommended Units for someone in the Houston Tx vicinity anyone?
Best wishes
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Men are but men, and the greatest men are they who soonest learn the simpler things. ROBERT E. HOWARD
What a man does for pay is of little significance. What he is, as a sensitive instrument responsive to the world's beauty, is everything! H. P. Lovecraft
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09-06-2017, 03:14 PM
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#155
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,418
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We have been members for 4 yrs now. We had been doing our own thing prior for about 8 years then joined due to our interest in the caravans. We've been on several and enjoyed them and plan a couple more. Basically we do our own thing but sometimes our plans cross paths with club activities and we have enjoyed all of these occasions. In fact we just got back this afternoon from one of these opportunities with the unit of friends in Vermont. We enjoy the group from our local unit. It's a nice cross section of ages and personalities. I would suggest to anyone to give it a go. You've got nothing, well almost nothing, to loose and so much to gain.
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Roger in NJ
" Democracy is the worst form of government. Except for all the rest"
Winston Churchill 1948
TAC - NJ 18
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09-06-2017, 03:22 PM
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#156
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4 Rivet Member
2005 30' Safari
Montgomery
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 385
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wave man
Recommended Units for someone in the Houston Tx vicinity anyone?
Best wishes
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Look at WBCCI.org for full info, but here's your Houston option:
Texas Coastal Plains Unit (Katy area/west side)
There's a couple others northeast and northwest several hours. The Texas Hill Country Unit is having a rally in Schulenburg in a few weekends, but potentially closing the unit down is on the business meeting agenda... lack of participation from members is the stated reason. We live north of Houston, this was our first year and we're switching units to a Fort Worth unit based on rally activities. As has been said, visit a couple units to see where you fit in, there's a good spot for anyone looking for one!
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09-06-2017, 05:52 PM
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#157
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3 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Glendale
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 152
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Does this look like a group of stultified old fogies? Not in my book. We are WBCCI and happily so. I don't know about the rest of the country, but Regions 10 and 12 rock!
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09-06-2017, 06:03 PM
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#158
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,987
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedSHED
At a rally with our unit, one of the members lamented that they'd no longer be as active, since they'd been "promoted" (I don't remember the precise word) into regional (or something equivalent) leadership status and would be attending "official" rallies that were not announced in the BB and were not open to the plebs.
At about that time there was a bunch of fuss in the forums and in real life about reimbursements for some members to attend rallies, and a couple other perks I could not find listed in the membership manual. Like I said, at that time and in that place, it felt a lot like a pyramid scheme.
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You got bad info. There are no secrect events that are not open to all members, though those that are focused around business meetings may not be to everyone's liking. Yes, some officers do receive some travel reimbursement, but it does not cover all of their expenses. The people at the top of the club devote a huge amount of time to the club.
Like everything else, the complainers speak the loudest on-line, while the majority that are having a good time are too busy to post on-line very frequently.
Best to try something out for yourself than make a decision based upon 2nd, 3rd, or 4th hand comments.
I hope you are having a great time no matter how you choose to enjoy your Airstream.
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Joe
Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
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09-06-2017, 06:04 PM
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#159
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MomcatA
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Cool! We agree! Pat
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09-06-2017, 07:46 PM
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#160
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,849
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I agree also.
Bill
Quote:
Originally Posted by PKI
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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