Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-05-2007, 12:02 AM   #15
Rivet Master
 
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Suburbia , Sunny So Cal
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,756
Another thought

I truly understand your position of money being spent and expectation of being welcomed in. Maybe another Unit would be more to your liking. Time is precious but shop around among the Units. They are all different and I'd like to think that one will fit you.
__________________

__________________
I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.

WBCCI 6731 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Goin camping is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 12:16 AM   #16
Rivet Master
 
1975 29' Ambassador
Reno , Nevada
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,351
What is the club and why join are big questions. I think some folks here have got it figured (for their interests) but others seem to be struggling a bit.

Quote:
The thing to remember is that this is OUR club. We are the members who volunteer, pay dues and attend events
Quote:
See the thing is. You get out of a Unit what you put in.
Quote:
the average member and I have only AS's in common.
Quote:
I DO WANT to support the WBCCI club and idea, but there is really NOTHING I get back for my $'s other than the book of members and the RED numbers
Quote:
that was why I joined. The BELONGING, the cameraderie, the "AirStream" mystique, the CLUB!!!
Quote:
relax and enjoy forum camping.
say what? I have an Airstream to go camping with, not a computer!

I know when I find others who own and use an Airstream trailer I have a lot of common ground with them - no matter their age, gender, social status, or whatever. I know I get a lot more out of the RV experience when I share it with others. Put these together and there is an opportunity.
__________________

__________________
bryanl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 12:38 AM   #17
Rivet Master
 
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Suburbia , Sunny So Cal
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,756
In answer to your question

Forum camping is taking part in the many Rallies forum members go on together. If you have not gone to one give it a try.

In answer to your other question of Why do we join the WBCCI.

You get to meet people and go places you might not have gone to and best of all you get to make new friends.
__________________
I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.

WBCCI 6731 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Goin camping is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 05:47 AM   #18
Always Airstreaming!
 
rickandsandi's Avatar
 
2005 22' Safari
1960 24' Tradewind
Anytown , Connecticut
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,114
Send a message via AIM to rickandsandi
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverToy


As I said, I am of 2 minds about the whole thing. I DO WANT to support the WBCCI club and idea, but there is really NOTHING I get back for my $'s other than the book of members and the RED numbers.... Then again, there is the membership in the local club that the national allows, but there there is precious little I am currently getting... So many things competing for my $'s, attention, and time...
Axel
We have been there and have gone through some of the same emotions. I love our AS and they life style it gives us. But we have to work, own a home and I have a 13 year old daughter from a previous marriage. I have always want a plane and an Airstream, along with the AS the Wally way of life, or as much of it as time allows. We all know you get out of something you put into it and it is true. We had belong to a local WBCCI Chapter and we felt the same as you. Where are they and what can we do together. We ended up changing chapters which is something WBCCI does not encourage but I was on the brink of letting go of my dream. We have found like minded folks in our new chapter, some with kids, young and old; some without kids; and some happily retired an very long time members. It is a wonderful mix of the real demographic of WBCCI. The chapter has adopted to try to meet the needs of all it's members and we ALL have a great time. There is not a month that there is not a rally planned for 2007 and a bunch of activities in between. In fact, Sandi and I are getting married this June at a WBCCI Rally! Don't give up on the local chapter. Get involved, be a part of it, bring the kids and have a great time.
__________________
J. Rick Cipot
Sandi Gould
NEU New England Unit
Airstream Life Magazine
Proud Member of WBCCI
WBCCI #3411
AIR #17099
2009 Silverado 2500HD
2004 22' Safari
1960 24' Tradewind
rickandsandi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 07:14 AM   #19
Rivet Master
 
Jim Clark's Avatar
 
2012 28' International
Currently Looking...
New Orleans , Louisiana
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,077
Images: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by rickandsandi
Sandi and I are getting married this June at a WBCCI Rally! Don't give up on the local chapter. Get involved, be a part of it, bring the kids and have a great time.
Congratulations, and post pictures.

Marriage is in the air, good friends got married outdoors at a their large Halloween Party in full costume including the judge. My 80 year old brother is getting married in May, good things are happening.


Thanks Jim
__________________
Jim N5TJZ Air# 174
2012 International Serenity 28
2005 Safari 25 SS Traded
1968 Globetrotter Sold
2011 F150 Ecoboost
Jim Clark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 07:34 AM   #20
Rivet Master
 
1977 31' Sovereign
1963 26' Overlander
1989 34' Excella
Johnsburg , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,941
WBCCI offers a wide program of benefits, caravaning, regional rallies and local camping experiences, to those with the time to use, attend and enjoy them. If you do not have the time or do not find them enjoyable, maybe you are wasting your money. If you have the time (due to being retired or a educator with all the summers off) WBCCI events are a bargain by comparison to Good Sam or other commercial caravans and rallies. If you work six days a week and have only one week vacation WBCCI is not for you. In fact, owning an RV really would not make any sense either, unless you use it to make a living on the road. WBCCI has its faults in some of the local units and the politics at the region and national level need to be improved but it belongs to the members and they need to take action to elect the right people to run it, the way they want.
__________________
dwightdi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 07:38 AM   #21
Rivet Master
 
Chaplain Kent's Avatar
 
1994 30' Excella
Currently Looking...
Milwaukee , Wisconsin
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,934
I have this feeling that a few zealots who are insanely attached to the WBCCI name will be stirring up this issue each year when the IBT meeting approaches. Some issue will pop up that they will attach to the name change and all these energies will be spent once more into why Wally's name should appear in the club's name. This year the issue was the supposed control of fifteen people in the WBCCI hierarchy telling Thor Corp. to re-badge a Mandalay as an Airstream. I have now received three urgent e-mails on the subject along with this and another thread in the forum. Such wasted energy! Can you imagine what a great club the WBCCI would be if these energies were channeled into making it the best RV/Caravan/Airstream/Wally/club?
__________________
Chaplain Kent
2015 Coachman Freedom Express 19RBS, Chummy IV- Ford Excursion- 7.3 Turbo-diesel
Chaplain Kent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 09:51 AM   #22
Rivet Master
 
1975 29' Ambassador
Reno , Nevada
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,351
Quote:
In answer to your other question
I always love it when someone offers a simple answer to a question that involves personal values and opinion and judgment. Very nice to know that the world is so black and white for some - and very troubling, too.

Thanks Dwight for a more nuanced guide towards an answer. And Kent's note about zealots is, I am afraid, a bit broader than his example. Such wasted energy, indeed.

Dwight hit another good one related to the 'forum camping' thing, too. It is on the basic idea Wally had that an RV sitting in the driveway wasn't good for the RV or the owner. We sometimes need a bit of help motivating ourselves to get out frequently. That tends to create a need to balance time (distance) and other, non RV committments. That is a concept behind the difference between WBCCI Units and WBCCI intra-clubs. Units are localized enough so most folks can get out camping together frequently. Intra-clubs are more spread out birds of-a-feather (in addition to the Airstream thing) groups whose get togethers are more rare special events.

To me, WBCCI includes all of these things, local Unit get togethers, intra-club communication and events, and a broad spectrum of caravans and rallies that provide something special for those with the time and resources for them. I can usually hit most of the local Unit weekend type events. I can plan a vacation for a more extensive experience. I see a history like MBCU caravans and rallies and that gives me something to look forward to. But I know that such things don't just happen, I have to participate in making them happen.
__________________
bryanl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 10:04 AM   #23
Rivet Master
 
LuminumTraila's Avatar
 
2006 19' Safari SE
NW of Boston , Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 987
Images: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwightdi
If you have the time (due to being retired or a educator with all the summers off) WBCCI events are a bargain by comparison to Good Sam or other commercial caravans and rallies. If you work six days a week and have only one week vacation WBCCI is not for you. In fact, owning an RV really would not make any sense either, unless you use it to make a living on the road. WBCCI has its faults in some of the local units and the politics at the region and national level need to be improved but it belongs to the members and they need to take action to elect the right people to run it, the way they want.
I know better than to start a post with "sorry if I sound a little irked" but I am!

More and more the buyers of Airstreams are younger (younger than retirement age) singles, couples, and families who want to get out and RV/camp/travel in their free time now, and hopefully continue do do so in their retirement. If WBCCI cannot even attempt to find a way to be a beneficial club for ALL Airstream owners, regardless, of age, job status, family situation, location, or reason for owning their Airstream, then the club deserves its fate.

Happily, I can say that the unit I belong to is making the attempt and is succeeding. The membership is growing; the events are well attended; the unit is thriving, and the demographics are younger, with more kids, and still attended by grandparents and older folks as well. Any unit that takes the attitude that WBCCI is only for the retired and those with copious free time is not doing the club any favors. If they cannot accommodate Airstream owners of all stripes, they need to help grow a sister unit that will reach out.


-Jamie
__________________
Doug & Jamie, AIR #650
LuminumTraila is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 10:45 AM   #24
Moderator
 
moosetags's Avatar

 
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach , Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 10,764
Images: 5
We belong to WBCCI mainly for the big red numbers (an Airtream is not an Airstream without them) and the Blue Beret Magazine. We like reading about the activities more than we like participating. We love camping in our Airstream (we spent 80 nights and did 10,000 in Lucy in 2006), but we are not that much into group things. We prefer the Forums Rallies as they are short and informal. We think that the WBCCI events are great; they are just not for us. That is why remain MALs and have not joined a unit.

We plan to remain members of WBCCI because we respect the organization and its history (we are not in favor of the name change thing). We will also remain very active in the Forums because this is the very best source of real time information. Long live both WBCCI and the Airstream Forums. These organizations have helped to make us avid and competent campers and Airstreamers.
__________________
SuEllyn & Brian McCabe
WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with HAHA
2005 Suburban 2500 Quadrasteer (Olivia) & 2018 Silverado 2500 (Lillian)
moosetags is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 11:08 AM   #25
Rivet Master
 
Over59's Avatar
 
1959 26' Overlander
Putnam , Connecticut
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,064
Images: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaplain Kent
I have this feeling that a few zealots who are insanely attached to the WBCCI name will be stirring up this issue each year when the IBT meeting approaches. Some issue will pop up that they will attach to the name change and all these energies will be spent once more into why Wally's name should appear in the club's name. This year the issue was the supposed control of fifteen people in the WBCCI hierarchy telling Thor Corp. to re-badge a Mandalay as an Airstream. I have now received three urgent e-mails on the subject along with this and another thread in the forum. Such wasted energy! Can you imagine what a great club the WBCCI would be if these energies were channeled into making it the best RV/Caravan/Airstream/Wally/club?
There are many good clubs people can join if they want to drive a new MH. Some are very well run and very active. If everyone is in the club then there is no "club". Personally I think the whole thing went sideways when the non-classic MH were approved for membership. Changed the feel in a way that is still in my opinion evident. The line of oversized MH with all the flags at International in Vermont and Region One in Connecticut damn near ran me off. The Monarch club is excellent and I would encourage those who need a large MH to sign up. The needs of these units and to a lesser extend the 34' have dominated the structure of rallies because they cann't go alot of places, like small state parks. And those are the places "camper" want to go. Not RV sites with these things lined up like a mall parking lot.
__________________
Over59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 11:11 AM   #26
Rivet Master
 
ALANSD's Avatar

 
1966 26' Overlander
Woodstock , Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,463
aren't we sounding a little like Airstream snobs here? Its like Porsche enthusiasts not wanting 914s or 928s or whatever at their get togethers. The idea ( I thought... silly me) was to promote travel & camping, fun, fellowship, etc all while using the Airstream poroduct whatever form it might be in.
__________________
1966 Overlander
AIR #005
Please visit our blogs and web pages:
OUR AIRSTREAM PASSION! BLOG
RESTORING AN AIRSTREAM
Our AIRSTREAM and TIN CAN TOURIST Rallys
ALANSD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2007, 09:50 AM   #27
Rivet Master
 
Denis4x4's Avatar
 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Currently Looking...
Durango , Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,111
Curious to know if there is any data showing a proportionate number of new WBCCI members that relate to the sales numbers of new AS over the past five years. In other words, is WBCCI growing in direct proportion to the number of units sold by AS>
__________________
Denis4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2007, 10:29 AM   #28
Aluminut
 
Silvertwinkie's Avatar
 
2004 25' Safari
. , Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,334
Quote:
Originally Posted by Denis4x4
In other words, is WBCCI growing in direct proportion to the number of units sold by AS>
In a word.....no.

There are about 2000 new Airstreams built every year. I think this is only the trailer production...it does not take into account Basecamps or Interstates, which could add over 500 additional units.
__________________

__________________
Computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq and millions of others are by far the most popular with about 70 million machines in use worldwide. Macintosh fans note that cockroaches are far more numerous than humans and that numbers alone do not denote a higher life form. -NY Times 11/91
Silvertwinkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tracing a Wally Byam Club Member Number Simplyspent Airstream History 40 03-01-2017 10:45 AM
orange barrel club ALANSD Airstream Motorhome Forums 13 10-08-2009 11:06 AM
Motorhome club name ViewRVs Airstream Motorhome Forums 9 06-09-2009 08:18 PM
New trailer, old club rally Pahaska Other Rallies & Events 7 07-24-2002 02:26 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.