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Old 07-16-2008, 01:35 PM   #113
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IBT = International Board of Trustees, the "over seeing" board of the WBCCI.

VAC = Vintage Airstream Club, one of the "intra-clubs" within WBCCI - your Airstream must 25 year old or older to be a voting VAC member, but anyone can be a VAC associate member - all it takes is an interest in older Airstreams.

The VAC tends to be made up of younger (and younger in spirit) members than WBCCI as a whole. They are less concerned with rules and more concerned with having fun.
Age is not the issue here. Atitude is. The VAC and the Four Corners Unit and The Heart of Texas Unit and some others are not populated by youngsters. They have people of all ages that focus on enjoying camping together and having a good time. These types of Units down play or ignore the formality some Units enjoy and keep their business meetings very brief or handle it over the internet.

Some folks no matter what age enjoy regulation and rules and they don't enjoy kids, pets or noise. The WBCCI is as it should be broad enough to meet their needs as well as people like me who are just the opposite.

Shop the Units around you and you'll find your kinda people. It took me a while but I found a crazy bunch I fit right into and some of them have gray hair.
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Old 07-16-2008, 02:02 PM   #114
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Shop the Units around you and you'll find your kinda people. It took me a while but I found a crazy bunch I fit right into and some of them have gray hair.
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SOME of us(oops, THEM) are happy to have any gray hair, at all...most of it seems to be in my brush, every morning...s'ok, tho', my tiara keeps the strands in place...
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Old 07-16-2008, 03:02 PM   #115
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...I am so convinced that running for some kind of office is a duty, that I have tossed my beret into the ring for Trailer Trash Queen, 2008. I ask for your support. Maybe the IBT could oversee this and make it an annual event...?
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:05 PM   #116
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Dose anyone else think it is absurd that a camping club has a "Grievance Committee"?
How about a Lost and Found?
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:30 PM   #117
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... If one has a grievance against the Grievance Committee who would investigate it???
My apologies to anyone grieved by this off task remark.
You'd have to ask Juvenal, or maybe Plato.

(I'm not the least grieved )
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:38 PM   #118
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It will never be over!

Problem is this, you have uptight people no matter where you go or what you do life.

Can some WBCCI members be uptight, you bet! Can some WBCCI members that are not "VAC" members be fun as h*ll, you bet!

Can some "VAC" members be fun as h*ll, you bet! Can some "VAC" members be uptight, you bet!

Trust me, I know for a fact there were some "VAC" members that were not real happy with me last year at the International Rally after the stunt I pulled with the "Pirate patch and Sword" during opening ceremonies , while some "older" WBCCI members (non-VAC) thought it was funny and what was needed!

There's good (fun) and bad (uptight)in the WBCCI as a "whole" it does not matter if you are talking about the WBCCI, WBCCI/VAC, WBCCI/Computer Club, etc...

The key is to find the Unit in the WBCCI that best fits "your" needs, if you have a trailer/motorhome older than 25yrs and think the VAC would be fun, give it a try, same with the Computer Club, etc....

This fight will never be over! You will always have some members in a club that "think" they know best. In 5, 10, 15, 20 years some of the members that are fighting this very fight will think "they" know best on how to run the club and you will have younger members saying the samething about them.

Remember, many 40-65 yrs old think their parents are "old fashion" just like their 15-25yrs old children think their 40-65yrs old parents are out of touch too.

Enjoy the fight that can never be won! I'm going camping!
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Old 07-18-2008, 12:05 PM   #119
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We are planning to be a first-timer at Madison. I hope our experience will be similar to the one Jerry had. We just had a couple of days with the advance team for Madison when they stayed at the Airstream Park in MN. Everyone in the group was pleasant and approachable. Did I disagree with them on somethings – yes. Did I agree with others - yes, Does this make me a bad person? I don’t think so. I think it makes me pretty normal. (in some ways..)

I like Paul’s idea, on another thread, to sponsor an event at Madison. Lets show them its not US vs THEM. This forum is made up of a multitude of people with a multitude of ideas and thoughts. I am willing to bet that there are a whole lot of people frequenting the forum that have the WBCCI’s best interest at heart. Some of them may be a bit radical and outspoken. Good for them and good for us. Others may only read the threads. Also good for them and good for us. We need all of these people working together to change the direction of the club.

We have the world’s biggest soap box and all are welcome to voice an opinion. When they get over-bearing I can choose to ignore them. I can accept and discuss any individuals comments as long as they are doing something constructive to change/improve the club.

Lets start by making positive change at the unit level. Get involved. Make your units what you want them to be or find the unit that fits your style. Stay informed. We have a few individuals that have done a good job doing that for us. Pay attention.
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Old 07-18-2008, 02:41 PM   #120
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2020 Survey Results have been posted.

Just a FYI but the 2020 Committee results are now posted on the the wbcci.org web site WBCCI.org

It makes for interesting reading, but I think the results are saying the same things this thread has been saying. Changes are needed and membership wants it.

Let not give up on the WBCCI, I believe changes are coming.

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Old 07-18-2008, 04:26 PM   #121
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I just had a chance to peek at the one doc. Looked pretty interesting to me, too. When I get more time, I'll try to look at all of the docs.

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Old 07-18-2008, 08:33 PM   #122
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Everyone, let's try to keep to the topic at hand, without resorting to bringing up personal issues that have little, if anything, to do with the subject this thread is about.
I've deleted three posts temporarily, and we'll decide if they stay deleted or not. In the meantime, please do not re-post the information that has been removed. Thank you.
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Imagine how those of us in our 40's and younger feel about joining! As I said before, one look at the Blue Beret sealed the deal for me. There is nothing there that appeals to a person of my generation. I mean, think of it this way, I'm the product of the punk rock era, so you can see where there might be problems




I believe that you are thinking of Grouch Marx.
Wearing a blue beret is very punk rock! I can't say I remember the Ramones, Social D, the Femmes or Ministry wearing berets in concernt, but I think they would respect the uniqueness of it. It is almost like being part of a small conformist movement within a broader conformist society is somehow rebel.
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:58 PM   #124
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Wearing a blue beret is very punk rock! I can't say I remember the Ramones, Social D, the Femmes or Ministry wearing berets in concernt, but I think they would respect the uniqueness of it. It is almost like being part of a small conformist movement within a broader conformist society is somehow rebel.
I was referring to the publication "The Blue Beret". I'm all over wearing a beret. In fact I own a couple of nice Basque berets. One in black and one in navy blue. I'm pretty sure that Mike Ness would respect the beret.
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