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Old 02-08-2008, 08:27 AM   #113
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2006/2008 Region Membership Comparison

Here are the Region totals as per the 2006 WBCCI Directory compared to the 2008 WBCCI Directory.Keep in mind these numbers are not official and I have compiled them myself.Also,each year there are omissions for various reasons and human error is also a possibility.It should give you a good idea of Region strength.Only Region 1 showed an increase.



Region......2006..2008...Units...Change

Region 1....259....274....6....6....+15
Region 2....862....805...18...18...-57
Region 3...1093..1060...22...22...-33
Region 4....699....529...17...14...-170..Lost 3 units
Region 5....419....378...10...10...-41
Region 6....514....446...12...11...-68..Lost 1 unit
Region 7....198....177....5.....5....-21
Region 8....288....243....8.....8....-45
Region 9....562....517...13...13...-45
Region 10...633....599....8.....8....-34
Region 11...352....345....7.....8.....-7..Gained 1 unit
Region 12...509....472...14...13...-37..Lost 1 unit
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:28 AM   #114
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Way to go Region 1!!! Congratulations to the BEST! I knew you were.

This is my region (Region 4....699....529...17...14...-170..Lost 3 units)
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:37 AM   #115
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Wow, impressive and depressing at the same time....
I hope the trend for all the regions show more favor in the coming year!

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Here are the Region totals as per the 2006 WBCCI Directory compared to the 2008 WBCCI Directory.Keep in mind these numbers are not official and I have compiled them myself.Also,each year there are omissions for various reasons and human error is also a possibility.It should give you a good idea of Region strength.Only Region 1 showed an increase.



Region......2006..2008...Units...Change

Region 1....259....274....6....6....+15
Region 2....862....805...18...18...-57
Region 3...1093..1060...22...22...-33
Region 4....699....529...17...14...-170..Lost 3 units
Region 5....419....378...10...10...-41
Region 6....514....446...12...11...-68..Lost 1 unit
Region 7....198....177....5.....5....-21
Region 8....288....243....8.....8....-45
Region 9....562....517...13...13...-45
Region 10...633....599....8.....8....-34
Region 11...352....345....7.....8.....-7..Gained 1 unit
Region 12...509....472...14...13...-37..Lost 1 unit
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Old 02-08-2008, 10:00 AM   #116
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Way to go Region 1!!! Congratulations to the BEST! I knew you were.

This is my region (Region 4....699....529...17...14...-170..Lost 3 units)
What's really sad is Region 4 is snuggled right around the Mother Ship.....
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Old 02-08-2008, 10:07 AM   #117
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This is my region (Region 4....699....529...17...14...-170..Lost 3 units)
Carol,

At 529 members your region 4 still has 3 times the members as my region 7's 177. At the same time if you look at the map it appears that in square miles your region is about 1/5 the size of mine. That means in terms of members per square mile, you've got me beat 15 to 1.
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Steve,thanks for adding the map.It will give those unfamiliar with the Region setup a better idea of how to apply the numbers.
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:00 AM   #119
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Carol,

At 529 members your region 4 still has 3 times the members as my region 7's 177. At the same time if you look at the map it appears that in square miles your region is about 1/5 the size of mine. That means in terms of members per square mile, you've got me beat 15 to 1.
Lots of Metro Detroiters on the forum here! Didn't the Louapalooza win the best forums rally contest?!. We party hardy and Home of the Rivettes! Hey we'll be just about in your back yard tomorrow. Our daughter just had a baby yesterday over at the West Allis Memorial Hospital, named after my DH on his birthday! Talk about coincidences. There we go, a brand spanking new IP for the WBCCI (in a few years)
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Hey we'll be just about in your back yard tomorrow. Our daughter just had a baby yesterday over at the West Allis Memorial Hospital
I'll be retuning the favor soon by heading to Ann Arbor to pick up some bathroom parts for my '67.

Congrats on the new grandbaby!
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At 529 members your region 4 still has 3 times the members as my region 7's 177. At the same time if you look at the map it appears that in square miles your region is about 1/5 the size of mine. That means in terms of members per square mile, you've got me beat 15 to 1.
As an associate member of units in both regions I think I have some feeling for their relative demographics. Region 4 was enormously populous in the 60's and 70's with the result that many members in Region 4 are very old. This inevitably results in a significant loss of members every year.

My impression is that the membership of Region 7, although smaller, is, on average, significantly younger--so we have a chance of keeping them longer.

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My impression is that the membership of Region 7, although smaller, is, on average, significantly younger--so we have a chance of keeping them longer.
I would agree that I am significantly younger than a very old person. LOL!
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I would agree that I am significantly younger than a very old person. LOL!
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4 pages later - and more statistics - and they are not painting a very nice picture.

Looking at those "net" Region stats is a bit on the scary side.

You see where is the +/- stats so that you can really get the health of not only the WBCCI in general - but the regions and specifically the Units.

As mentioned before - a unit with a plus net membership is not 100% guaranteed to be a healthy and functional unit.

I don't think anyone is disputing that there are Units that are working hard to change - not change really but evolve with their members changing needs.

This thread is all about statistics - and these types of statistics should be coming from the WBCCI office. A good portion of the $55.00 surely is supporting the administrative operation of this organization.

The proper collection of registration statistics from Units to the Regions and then to the HQ - could certainly turn the tables quickly. In that the trouble areas can be identified quickly and HELP can be on it's way.

Speaking of Help - Where is the help to those Units that are faltering? What help could be available for them to utilize? Where are the Volunteer programs, where is the education or orientation of volunteers to run these units. Or is it just monkey see monkey do on the most part. Or move through the same process long enough and you too will fold into the "norm" or what has always been done in the past - Where are the regions to place the checks and balances on the units - to provide them with the support and education.....What are the regions for???

The mention of the org being built from the ground up is correct - but once built the direction/leadership has to come from the top and successional stages IBT to REGIONS to UNITS TO MEMBERSHIP. In the three years that I belonged to a large club I did not see any strong bond between the units to the region. Not collectively as a Region - In other words is there communication between units of the same Region - is there strength.

Identified needs and issues of the membership should be prioritized and quantified to sustain a healthy membership base. But what I have seen (on the administrative side only) is emphasis being placed on issues that have not come from the ground up but identified at the top without merit or justification..

The membership base is dwindling this is no secret however, at what rate and how severely is simply a best guess. Who is testing this base - who is measuring it's health and how?

No offense to Michaels efforts here - they are fabulous - and perhaps It would be a great service to this Club if he were to volunteer to WBCCI head office to start a committee that could actually base the statistics on FACTS.

And I will stand up and be counted - I would be honored myself to sit on that committee and work with you.

So how about it Mike - you want to work together putting a proposal together to WBCCI on what statistic parameters are needed, how to collect them, and how to extrapolate and then package to the membership as a tangible membership benefit.

I am not just talking about numbers here I am talking about research - doing exactly what Carol had mentioned in one of her posts - FOLLOW-UP to non returning members, or even the late payers (like myself).

This Clubs most valuable resource in establishing growth patterns will be based on its lost membership. It is with them that lies all the reasons for the loss...

It is a tough job to do - no one likes to call up a member that might be really upset about something - and you have to be a very diplomatic and understanding person and be a great listener! The club has to listen to its members. That is what it is here for.

We pay our dues so that the Club will LISTEN to it's members through a simple step of 1M1V concept. And this is accomplished through one voice and one ear at a time - to take the time to find out why! A member is not returning.

Then to take it one step further and - if there is something that can be done to avoid another member leaving under the same circumstances then steps should be taken to ensure that it does no happen. As well what steps could be taken to bring that member back and if possible then every effort should be made to make that happen too....at all times members should be made to feel welcome - not made to feel that they have to fit in!

NO ONE came to me and said what can we do so that we can keep your enthusiasm in the unit - they let a live wire go...is all I can say.

This last year not really belonging to a unit (on a participatory based membership) I have sat back and been a sponge on the technical side of vintage as well as the new unit side - watched how our IBT works, Watched this forum grow, watched the Airstream Inc forum fold. Watched more and more blogs come out - people are thirsty for information, The VAP, more and more forum rallies grow. See more of the caravans be cancelled, more of the WBCCI Rallies that were full - scrounge for participants. It goes on and on. There is interest out there it is just not being tapped in an efficient manner.

The way of yesteryear is not working in many organizations not just with this one - it is time to get with the times and that is as simple as this process is. Give the voice to the people and let them determine their fate. The formal and rigid protocol is finished....it has died and we are letting it hang on because we are not forward enough to change the polices quick enough.

Policy makers should be looking at policies that restrict growth and toss them out the window. This is not to be miss-interpreted as opening up to SOB that is just a silly misconception. And not just updating wording.

Membership Structure and rules need to be seriously looked at. Fix these problems and you will see the doors open to this club and members will be happier and will be able to participate at levels that may not be available to them right now.

I will put my money where my mouth is - and I am serious - I will volunteer to work on this type of committee at Regional or International level. It is not political or self serving it strictly deals with the facts. Statistics paint the true picture if collected efficiently and correctly but the next most important step of statistics is to allow the club to be educated by them.

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So many great points in your post... I've chosen a few of the best to comment on.

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This last year...I have sat back and been a sponge on the technical side of vintage as well as the new unit side - watched how our IBT works, Watched this forum grow, watched the Airstream Inc forum fold. Watched more and more blogs come out - people are thirsty for information, The VAP, more and more forum rallies... There is interest out there it is just not being tapped in an efficient manner.
Absolutely! this is an under-served demand. How many trailers do you see purchased, gutted and then back on eBay. I'm heartened by events like the FCU restoration rally, but we need more. There are huge numbers of folks out there that have been inspired by the many beautiful restored trailers and they long to have one of their own. Sharing our abilities will not only make this dream a reality for many, it will engender a life-long commitment to the group that helped find it for them.

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The way of yesteryear is not working in many organizations not just with this one - it is time to get with the times and that is as simple as this process is. Give the voice to the people and let them determine their fate. The formal and rigid protocol is finished....it has died and we are letting it hang on because we are not forward enough to change the polices quick enough.
Though we all enjoy the old fashioned simplicity inherent in the Airstream lifestyle we are accustomed to the quick action and personal interaction that todays technology provides us. I think the new Region/Unit website structure is a great tool that is not utilized to it's full potential yet, This sort of direct and immediate interaction with the membership is a key to a better future for the club.

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Policy makers should be looking at policies that restrict growth and toss them out the window. This is not to be miss-interpreted as opening up to SOB that is just a silly misconception. And not just updating wording.
Please share some specific ideas regarding current policies that restrict growth.
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